I finally saw Moana on Netflix
- enjoyable movie with great music and some genuinely hilarious moments
Next up on the agenda to watch (also on Netflix): Sausage party
... some people hated it but I have the feeling its raunchy, immature humor will be my cup of tea :great:
Next up on the agenda to watch (also on Netflix): Sausage partyRaunchy doesn't bother me, but if you go there, and it doesn't land, it's just uncomfortable.
... some people hated it but I have the feeling its raunchy, immature humor will be my cup of tea :great:
I thought Moana was okay, the music was mediocre.Yeah, didn't love it. The main song (which I think won the Oscar?) was great, but not much beyond that. But I think maybe coming off Hamilton, expectations were going to be too high. Hell, I don't know how LMM will ever be able to follow it.
Without the chicken, Moana would have been kinda "meh" for me.I actually just started on those shows in general, about 2/3 of the way done with Daredevil Season 1. The downside is knowing everyone liked that show best of the 4, so this level probably won't maintain.
Gonna start binge watching The Defenders tonight.
Raunchy doesn't bother me, but if you go there, and it doesn't land, it's just uncomfortable.
Sausage Party doesn't land.
I think the same. The same is true of politically incorrect humor. The "sphincter pucker factor" of the audience means that the degree of difficulty is MUCH higher. If it lands, it's comedy. If it doesn't land, it's bigotry. That's a dangerous line to walk.
But yeah, I have found that much of what Seth Rogen has done over the last few years just didn't land.
Moana was very mediocre. The fact many of us even watched it reflects the many life changes over the years.Which I heard they are making a sequel to, which probably will be no good at all.
I have not watched a truly good movie in quite some time. The last good movie I can remember watching was Sicario.
I actually just started on those shows in general, about 2/3 of the way done with Daredevil Season 1. The downside is knowing everyone liked that show best of the 4, so this level probably won't maintain.Kinda depends. Iron Fist flat out sucked. I wont deny it.
Darkest Hours is fantastic!Good to hear. Have not heard any feedback yet and really excited to see this.
Gary Oldman is Winston Churchill.
Barry finished up last night - did anyone watch it? It was really good, and somewhat interesting on how quickly it would go from light natured comedy to dark and heavy. I never liked Bill Hader much at SNL, but he was great here.I found it interesting and quirky. It is definitely dark humor (starting now). I think I like it, I am interested to see where they take it.
I finally managed to see a non-kids movie in the theater recently. (Dunkirk). Such a mixed bag, IMO. In some ways it was a terrific film, but it is very difficult to accept and set aside that the POV is so narrowly tailored as it renders the story somewhat meaningless. I respect the cinematography, though in an IMAX can be a bit whoosy, the minimal dialogue, the utility of the cast, save maybe one trivial character. It is just so incomplete, the uninitiated likely walks out of there still wondering what the hell Dunkirk was all about.I watched in on a plane and your summary is spot on I think. But, it wasn't a documentary and included some historical errors of course. A very mixed bag for me also, but I have no desire to watch it again.
I disagree, I enjoy the war movies that show the POV of an individual soldier, or other character. I already know what Dunkirk is about, but seeing it from an individual's POV is eye opening.
I heard Dunkirk wasn't really worth it (essentially for the reason MarqHusker says: it left out the why?), but Darkest Hour definitely is. I look forward to seeing that one.
Thanks AAA!i get that. i also agree tony was the one that needed to make the sacrifice. i just wish they'd have not included the child dynamic.
Gotta say I agree with rolltidefan's take on Endgame almost word-for-word.
I, too, was REALLY saddened by the thought that Tony was now leaving his child, after his was the ONLY life that turned out better after the snap. I'm sure it hits me harder than it would if I didn't have young children of my own. But that's precisely WHY it had to be Tony to do it. Nobody else would have been as gut-wrenching, nobody else would have the same impact. Iron Man had the most solo movies, plus the most appearances in other movies (I'm assuming). We knew Tony the best of all of the characters. I certainly felt the closest to him. And Pepper had already said it, that they needed to attempt it and make whatever sacrifices necessary, to help the rest of the world improve its lot. She was willing, and ultimately Tony-- the ultimate self-serving narcissist-- was willing as well. It was tough to watch, for sure.
Speaking of older movies, I recently introduced my kids to Hitchcock with North by Northwest and Notorious. Surprisingly racy for their era. A little too heavy on the love stories for my kids to appreciate (at least while watching with their parents), but fun movies, nonetheless.To Catch a Thief is another great Hitchcock movie.
We're giving Veep a try. 4 episodes in and it's starting to grab us.You’ve just gotta lean into the most bad people. I watched a few seasons and need to finish at some point.
Heck, there were topless women in some 80s PG movies, you'd certainly never see that now.Was going to say, I think those were my initiation. It's rare to even get that in PG-13. I remember it being a big deal in Titanic
I believe Gremlins is credited w bringing us PG13.good show for it's time
I believe Gremlins is credited w bringing us PG13.I had always thought it was Temple of Doom. It seems we are probably both right:
Eh, we're introduced to Princess Leia as a strong-willed young woman...but she still needed saving. And then in the next movie, she's in a bikini the whole time.Yeah...I was going to say, the fact that you could put basically the complete list in a 3 part image is fairly telling. And yes, Leia, like female characters before her, was strong willed, but eh? What did she actually do in A New Hope or Empire, other than have spunk? She is perpetually in need of rescuing. Then, in Return of the Jedi, she did finally kill a bad guy, while wearing a bikini.
The social progress for women and minorities is stark. Thankfully, that was just movie portrayals and unlike real life, am I right??!?!?
Yeah...I was going to say, the fact that you could put basically the complete list in a 3 part image is fairly telling. And yes, Leia, like female characters before her, was strong willed, but eh? What did she actually do in A New Hope or Empire, other than have spunk? She is perpetually in need of rescuing. Then, in Return of the Jedi, she did finally kill a bad guy, while wearing a bikini.I don’t think people have a problem with female characters being the lead or the hero.
The online fan boy backlash against strong female leads in Star Wars and Marvel movies is hilarious. "Aaah, girls have ignored us our whole lives, and now they can resue us too!?! BOOOO!"
I don’t think people have a problem with female characters being the lead or the hero.Yes there were also legit gripes. But that's why I specified internet fanboys. There was a large contingent that was PISSED about female roles, which sadly isn't surprising either.
I think they have a problem with bad writing and bad movies. The new Star Wars movies were both pretty bad to me. Has nothing to do with the casting. Daisy Ridley is great. The writing just kinda sucked in both of those movies. Probably only gonna get worse from here on out for Star Wars as Disney hired those two dickwads who ruined Game of Thrones to write a new series of Star Wars movies.
I haven’t seen Captain Marvel but I saw the new Avengers movie and her character just fell flat in the movie. A lot of stuff just didn’t make sense in that entire movie. Honestly was very disappointed with the movie.
The Princess was a far better character than Rey, who has no room for character development as she was already good at everything from the get go. She can fly the Falcon better than Han Solo, even though she'd never left her planet. She can beat Kylo Ren in a light saber battle with no training. What's the point of the story?This.
There are occasional good movies and TV shows. But you definitely have to dig for them.I actually don't think TV writing has ever been better. Really not even close. Movies...eh... Feels like everything is an art house production or a superhero movie. Just look at the Best Picture nominations. It feels like the mass appeal "films" (as opposed to movies, for lack of a better word) have disappeared. We always try to watch all of the Best Picture/Actor/Actress movies, and each year I've even heard of, let alone know people who have seen, the nominated pictures.
it's a fun movie, but the writing is once again a problem. and like most super hero movies/comics, they make her way to powerful only to nerf her powers a month later in endgame. but it's a superhero movie, if you're looking for anything more than a fun movie you're gonna be disappointed.
I haven’t seen Captain Marvel but I saw the new Avengers movie and her character just fell flat in the movie. A lot of stuff just didn’t make sense in that entire movie. Honestly was very disappointed with the movie.
Eh, we're introduced to Princess Leia as a strong-willed young woman...but she still needed saving. And then in the next movie, she's in a bikini the whole time.tbf, han and luke both needed saving multiple times throughout those movies as well.
The social progress for women and minorities is stark. Thankfully, that was just movie portrayals and unlike real life, am I right??!?!?
anyone watch chernobyl? it's pretty good so far. i'm a couple episodes behind, but really enjoying it. stellan skarsgard and jared harris are 2 of my favorite actors. emily watson puts in a strong showing as well. her character is definitely a badass.I'm 3 episodes in. It's very good, and I've loved Jared Harris back to his Fringe days. But I've heard people go a little overboard on their love for it.
Never thought I'd see a board full of dudes bellyaching about a bikini. Of course being even farther to the left than Hollyweird is a pretty impressive feat to have pulled off.This is where the line is crossed and anything said in response to this is going to look like we're falling off a political cliff.
This is where the line is crossed and anything said in response to this is going to look like we're falling off a political cliff.
So 1, thanks for that.
2, if so many people seem so far left, maybe it's because the right has hypersped itself away from the middle these last couple of decades.
3 - the bikini thing is akin to the larger issue of women becoming big in Hollywood. You can google almost any 'new to you' actress that your'e impressed with, and about 90% of them have been topless or nude in an earlier, smaller movie...because they virtually had to. Do that for your favorite male actors, and you'll be searching for a good, long while to find any.
Fringe is a show I loved. I got about 5 seasons in and life happened and I lost track of it. Need to go finish it.The ending was very weak. The last season was totally unnecessary and just made everything convoluted.
I actually don't think TV writing has ever been better. Really not even close. Movies...eh... Feels like everything is an art house production or a superhero movie. Just look at the Best Picture nominations. It feels like the mass appeal "films" (as opposed to movies, for lack of a better word) have disappeared. We always try to watch all of the Best Picture/Actor/Actress movies, and each year I've even heard of, let alone know people who have seen, the nominated pictures.I'm actually the opposite, I think there are plenty of great movies.
I may have to give Ozark another look. I tried it and got bored and quit.
I found a Bosch series I had missed somehow and enjoyed watching Season 4. I now have read most of the books, all the ones the library had. The TV series has some interesting twists and changes relative to the books. I enjoy both.
I'm reading a history entitled "Salt" now, which is informative but not terribly well written IMHO, it's OK.
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html (https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html)Re #50, there's been some historian push-back against the "Ty Cobb was an awful human being" story line.
Welcome, Briguy.Thank you sir!
Some good ones mentioned. I also enjoyed North Dallas Forty and Semi Tough back in the day.I couldn't get past my disappointment that neither of those were as good as the books that inspired them. If I hadn't read the books, I probably would have liked them a lot more than I did.
My 12yo wants to see it. This coming weekend is crazy busy but if it's still around in theaters, maybe we'll do it next weekend.Not sure how things are in CenTex, but the theater was almost full at our showing. Almost everyone was of Asian descent.
Also really want to see The Eternals, and Dune (as we've discussed on some other thread that I guess is not the Movies thread).
My 12yo wants to see it. This coming weekend is crazy busy but if it's still around in theaters, maybe we'll do it next weekend.you can see Dune online stream on HBOMax
Also really want to see The Eternals, and Dune (as we've discussed on some other thread that I guess is not the Movies thread).
Not sure how things are in CenTex, but the theater was almost full at our showing. Almost everyone was of Asian descent.Theaters are wide open and populated here. They've been open for over a year, but with no content, not very busy. Now that there's new content, they're quite busy. Theater was 100% full when we went to see Black Widow a couple months back.
Never got into Dune.
you can see Dune online stream on HBOMax
Watched it yesterday
not a big fan but thats probably cause Im a picky old man
Ha, I've reached the point where I'm mad that any movie isn't available streaming immediately.It's possible you hate people even more than I do. ;)
It's possible you hate people even more than I do. ;)I sort of agree, but I also don't mind not going one bit. Since we had kids (2013), I believe the Star Wars movies are the only movies I've seen in the theaters. So it's not like its a pandemic thing. I used to go all the time
For me, I like to see the "big" movies on the big screen. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, superhero movies, big sci fi movies like Dune-- I prefer the theater experience for those.
Indie films, romcoms, or whatever-- those are fine at the house.
I sort of agree, but I also don't mind not going one bit. Since we had kids (2013), I believe the Star Wars movies are the only movies I've seen in the theaters. So it's not like its a pandemic thing. I used to go all the time
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home. Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.I have both and not really sure why you say that
Meh. I did like the series Bosch on NF, in part because I read the books (which are superb), and I loved The Last Kingdom, which is coming back apparently with a new one next year. I also read those books.Perhaps the "Books" thread would be more to your liking, then... :)
I love books. Not all of them, but some are really good. I wish I could write like that.
My own writing is an abeyance, which is a town in Ohio I think.
I had a fair number of sales of my last book "Marine Dad" but almost no feedback. I have concluded they aren't very good, but I can't improve without constructive critique. I got some excellent critique from beta on my fictional books, and CWSooner.
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home. Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home. Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.
Of all the streaming apps I've used, I prefer the Netflix interface, and by a pretty wide margin. This is compared to Prime, Hulu, Disney+, ESPN/+, HBOMax, and probably a couple of others I'm forgetting. I've never used Peacock so can't comment on that.
I couldn't even tell you what my favourite streaming app is. Because everything is superior to the garbage that is Amazon Prime Video.paramount+ (cbs app) is by far the worst.
Also....you are having problems with HBOMax?Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.
Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.
So you aren't using the HBOMax app directly?I am now, it was a mess. No issues when using the Amazon app, but you can't do that anymore.
I had a fair number of sales of my last book "Marine Dad" but almost no feedback. I have concluded they aren't very good, but I can't improve without constructive critique. I got some excellent critique from beta on my fictional books, and CWSooner.Speaking of which, I need to get around to reading books 2 and 3. I ordered them for the kindle but haven't read them yet.
Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.ok that explains it
I don't have a streaming app, but I'm oldYou'd save a thousand bucks a year, probably.
ok that explains itYes - the HBOMax app is trash. I would be more tolerant if there weren't literally tons of other options, many like Netflix that have been around for years and work well. Some tech guy told me they know it's garbage and are trying to rebuild it.
your problem isnt with the content but the performance of the app
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home. Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.
Also....I think most theaters are "fancy Dolby sound ones".I'm not sure. A come years ago the theatre I used to go to had special Dolby rooms that promised extra fanciness. I do remember seeing the new Blade Runner there and you could feel the gunshots in your chest. But I haven't been there in a while. The theatre I go to now, haven't seen that offered.
Yes - the HBOMax app is trash. I would be more tolerant if there weren't literally tons of other options, many like Netflix that have been around for years and work well. Some tech guy told me they know it's garbage and are trying to rebuild it.How are you accessing it?
How are you accessing it?Roku television
I use a ROKU and have not had any problems
You'd save a thousand bucks a year, probably.I really doubt it
I really doubt ithow much is your cable bill?
old men really enjoy saving a few bucks a month
plentyIs that $120/mo including internet, or just cable?
about $120/month
but, of course I need ESPN, BTN, SEC, FOX sports, NFL network, MLB network, Golf Channel, TBS, TNT
just looked it up, it's $100 for cable IPTVThat $100 is the base price or including all the add-in taxes and services?
the 50Meg internet is about $60/month
Here in my neighborhood, Spectrum has the prices nailed down so that if you drop cable TV, your internet goes up, because you "unbundled." So adding Hulu Live or something like that, on top of the cranked-up internet service, just takes you right back where Spectrum already had it priced to begin with.Similar here. I was actually in the Costco and the internet sales guy asked me what I paid for internet. I've done my research and there's nothing viable in my neighborhood other than Cox, but I wanted to see if maybe there was another service or something I'd missed. Because there are no alternatives, my 150 Mbps internet is just over $100/mo.
There's no fiber here, so I don't really have any options.
One of my wife's friends wrote the screenplay for the movie Love Hard, which just debuted on Netflix: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10752004/That's Hallmark movie stuff right there!
It's a RomCom, so maybe not this crew's genre, but check it out if you get a chance.
That's Hallmark movie stuff right there!Did you watch it?
Did you watch it?Yes.
We cancelled Netflix, so haven't seen it. Apparently it was #1 on Netflix for a while.
I don't know if it's Hallmark level or decent, but I believe it's gotten decent press
is it a bad time to say I kinda hate everything that Netflix makes? I feel like they'll make any piece of shit just to have more content they own on their platform- they just throw so much shit on the wall- they hope something sticks.Netflix definitely throws a lot of crap at the wall to see what sticks. But they have the occasional decent original.
Kinda liked them better when they had other peoples top notch content on the platform. I've been missing The Office and It's Always Sunny like crazy on Netflix.
So similar to watching Georgia win the NC for me.
It's a really dumb show, but mildly entertaining.
So similar to watching Georgia win the NC for me.The cure for that is not watching of course, but mildly entertaining is a plus.
My wife thinks the dude in Reacher is hot so she watches it. I've never seen it so can't really comment.(https://i.imgur.com/TAeajLQ.png)
But I can guarantee you though, that he's no John Stamos.
Anything good on there?If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+. I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.
If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+. I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.I watched some of it, for some reason never got really into it. I forget the plot now, I think they wanted money to watch more of it and I passed.
I thought it was great but I'm a pretty big Star Trek nerd so there you have it. If you're unfamiliar with Captain Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation then it wouldn't make much sense.
I find it funny that the book character was supposed to be an imposing goliath, and the first actor to play Jack Reacher was... Tom Cruise. Practically a hobbit.😂😂. I struggle with Tom Cruise in the hero role - I have seen him in person and he is tiny.
But I wouldn't call this dude "very large"... He's only 6'2". That's barely at the range where I'll describe someone as "yeah, I guess he's tall"...
I watched the first three seasons of Yellowstone on Peacock. But the fourth season isn't on Peacock. I thought I had to sign up with Paramount Plus to watch it. So I did. But no, it's not on Paramount Plus, it's on Paramount Network. Which I already had (unknown to me) through Hulu. But now I have Paramount Plus for a month. Anything good on there?Same. Yellowstone is very entertaining- albeit a stretch from reality- I enjoyed it. The last season of 8 episodes could have easily been 2-3 episodes- but they just LOADED it with commercials, being the number 1 watched show on all media ( from what read anyway)
On the other hand, I dig Tom Cruise as an action guy. I think he does a great job.Yeah- pretty good actor. I just struggle with him beating up 8 guys at once in Reacher.
I've never seen any Reacher stuff and if that dude is supposed to be 6'5" then yeah I'd have a hard time buying Cruise in that particular role, but in general I enjoy most of his movies.
Ozark put out 7 more episodes ( a season I guess). Again, very entertaining but you can’t compare it to any reality.I watched part of Ozark being filmed from our condo, and when strolling about town.
If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+. I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.I guess I must have signed up for this before because I did watch Picard. I grew up on The Next Generation so I was all in for Picard, though I was a bit disappointed in it. Though I only about half pay attention to shows anymore so I probably missed something important.
I thought it was great but I'm a pretty big Star Trek nerd so there you have it. If you're unfamiliar with Captain Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation then it wouldn't make much sense.
The FNG is "only" 6'2" but he is rather built.Yeah, the dude (based on the commercials) is shredded. He's still only 6'2" lol...
Dude, do you even lift?
😂😂. I struggle with Tom Cruise in the hero role - I have seen him in person and he is tiny.This got tiring real quick,ya he's the best trial lawyer after trying.....0 cases but takes down a General in line for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.Hope Sam,Marq Husker,ELA are all taking pointers.He also happens to be the Best Race Car Driver also winning it all after injury,but wait there's more.He also is the very best Fighter Pilot makes the Naval Fliers @ Midway appear as their in crop dusters,the hits just keep on coming I tell you
I realize that’s an unfair bias - but the camera work they have to do to try to hide it is so obvious.
I've been an extra in a couple of movies filmed around Austin over the years. I agree with you on just how much STUFF and how many PEOPLE it appears to require.Pics or it didn't happen and Full House doesn't count
This got tiring real quick,ya he's the best trial lawyer after trying.....0 cases but takes down a General in line for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.Hope Sam,Marq Husker,ELA are all taking pointers.He also happens to be the Best Race Car Driver also winning it all after injury,but wait there's more.He also is the very best Fighter Pilot makes the Naval Fliers @ Midway appear as their in crop dusters,the hits just keep on coming I tell you
Pics or it didn't happen and Full House doesn't countI am somewhere in the crowd during some of these auditorium scenes. I'm the guy who looks like a very young John Stamos.
You do realize that Tom Cruise is an actor and he was playing roles in movies for all of that, right? I mean, he didn't actually do all those things himself.Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's help
John Wayne also was not a Western gunfighter in the 1850s. He, too, was an actor.
;)
I am somewhere in the crowd during some of these auditorium scenes. I'm the guy who looks like a very young John Stamos.How about a time stamp ? :29:
Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's helpI could maybe see him in Barfly. No way in the other two. But I'd also never buy Donald Sutherland or Christopher Walken as a young beach volleyball playing fighter pilot.
Yeah Boba Fett is pretty good. I've always hated Fett and never understood why so many Star Wars nerds seemed to idolize him. But they've actually made me appreciate his character. Well done, Disney!i never hated him, just didn't care. he got like 3 min of screen time in the ot, never understood why he was so loved. i know he was on some of the other cartoons and stuff, which were fun, but he was a huge fan fav way before those came out.
i never hated him, just didn't care. he got like 3 min of screen time in the ot, never understood why he was so loved. i know he was on some of the other cartoons and stuff, which were fun, but he was a huge fan fav way before those came out.
but i have really enjoyed his show. lots of people hating on it, but i thought it was pretty well done for the most part. obvious setup for future stuff.
so ready for the kenobi show. now that's my favorite character.
Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I hated him. I was largely indifferent to him.it gets even better
What I hated was all the fanbois that geeked out over him, for no good reason.
But now they've put a lot of depth into the character and I'm enjoying the show so far. Only through the first three episodes so no spoilers! :)
Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's helpYeah, I remember Denzel Washington talking about his role in Training Day. He had basically spent his entire career playing the hero role in movies, and he said being able to play the bad guy was very interesting and fun.
Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I hated him. I was largely indifferent to him.palpatine is back for a third time!!!
What I hated was all the fanbois that geeked out over him, for no good reason.
But now they've put a lot of depth into the character and I'm enjoying the show so far. Only through the first three episodes so no spoilers! :)
Yeah, I remember Denzel Washington talking about his role in Training Day. He had basically spent his entire career playing the hero role in movies, and he said being able to play the bad guy was very interesting and fun.cruise was a pretty good villain in collateral opposite jamie foxx.
Cruise probably can't play the villain in movies, lest it make Scientology look bad.
I could maybe see him in Barfly. No way in the other two. But I'd also never buy Donald Sutherland or Christopher Walken as a young beach volleyball playing fighter pilot.Sorry left out Cruise was the greatest bartender also.Sutherland was good in "The Eagle Has Landed" with Michael Caine and Robert Duvall
Cruise did an awesome cameo in Tropic Thunder, nowhere close to his typical Hollywood Leading Man roles. Absolutely stole the show.
palpatine is back for a third time!!!
have i ever expressed how much i hated that? the prequels have their issues but at least the overall story was sound and coherent. the sequels are just a mess. fun, but a mess.
jurassic world dominion trailer dropped today. excited t see original cast back in action. looks of cool looking (and realistic based on latest evidence) dinos. hope story is as good as original jp.Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...
Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...sam neill, laura dern, goldblum are all in new movie.
It was dumb, but so was the corner that Johnson painted Abrams into after the 2nd one.I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.
What's baffling to me is that Disney didn't have a cohesive story arc planned for the trilogy. If they'd managed it as closely as they managed the MCU, they most likely wouldn't have encountered such problems late in the creative process.
Anyway, as you say, they're still fun, and personally I like them much better than Eps 1-3 (which I have always been MUCH kinder toward, than the general public).
I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.
I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.i think you're both right.
Johnson retconned and unceremoniously dumped everything Abrams had started in TFA, and left the story a complete shambles. I loathed the direction he was trying to take Rey's ancestry and in general he just made a giant mess of everything. Nobody could have ever completely recovered from that but I think Abrams did better than most anyone else could have. I'm pretty confident I would have hated a Johnson Episode 9 a great deal, so I'm actually fine with how it turned out.
But the fault doesn't lie with Johnson or Abrams, it's entirely on Disney for failing to create and outline a coherent and cohesive story arc for all three movies, before the first one was ever written.
Talking about being severely out of place.....dinosaurs in snow?there's fast growing evidence of dinos in cold climates. much of australia was within the antarctic circle during the cretaceous. and that region is richly dense with dinos from that time period. likewise, parts of alaska with rich dino fossils were in the arctic circle during the time those dinos were there too. and not just tiny feathery ones, either, though they were smaller (but not small as we would consider them).
Stop it.
How do you combat dinosaurs being released into the wild in the modern day? Wait for the first cold night of winter, lol.
As effective as a giant asteroid impact.
Well crap, there goes THAT plan to save us when the real dinos come back and attack.i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us
i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us
many scientists feel that dinosaurs were hot blooded so them being where it snows isnt that far fetchedthat's the thing, the pole climates were great for vegetation. no permafrost in those time periods, rich in moisture, with warm summers but cold, snowy winters. sounds very much like our current climates with dense populations of large fauna.
as long as they had plenty of food they could have existed in such a climate
there's fast growing evidence of dinos in cold climates. much of australia was within the antarctic circle during the cretaceous. and that region is richly dense with dinos from that time period. likewise, parts of alaska with rich dino fossils were in the arctic circle during the time those dinos were there too. and not just tiny feathery ones, either, though they were smaller (but not small as we would consider them).Ehhh.....articles like that are part of why people are so easily fooled nowadays.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-dinosaurs-thrived-snow-180976435/
Ehhh.....articles like that are part of why people are so easily fooled nowadays.except it doesn't really. the article says it was warmer, says the dinos were smaller (even use polar bear size description), and probably usually feathery. but warmer doesn't mean hot.
It starts off with "imagine a T-Rex in the snow" and then goes on to specify smaller, feathered dinosaurs lived within a warmer arctic circle with no ice caps.
The Alaskan Tyrannosaur they found was the size of a polar bear and thought to be an adult.
Well, it snows in Georgia, right?
So the mental image the article plants in your head needs to shrink the dinosaur down considerably and the snow it's walking through needs to be a dusting, as the ground didn't even freeze back then in such places.
Why does everything have to be so fucking misleading nowadays? Oh right, because the mundane truth doesn't get any clicks. Because the masses are infantile.
Thanks for the reminder.
I remember reading a book by Robert Bakker - he's a paleontologist who pushed hard that dinosaurs were likely warm blooded. Apparently one of the Jurassic Park movies had a character based on him that got eaten by a T.Rex.He’s the guy that tim (the kid in first movie) was saying he read his book that disagreed with dr grant.
The good news is- it is easy to spot when it appears. The bad news is- we are surrounded by it.You mean what gets misinterpreted as "science" is laughable, don't you?
what gets passed as “science “ is laughable.
So, anyone seen any good movies or TV shows lately?I just finished Reacher on Prime
I just finished Reacher on Primei just did as well. really enjoyed it.
I liked it
It wasnt fantastic but entertaining
My i s c & a aggie wife is watching Downton Abbey and I'll sit and watch it with her sometimes. I have to admit, I don't hate it. But I'm a theater dork, and boring period pieces are kind of my jam, so...I watched the whole series years ago
I watched the whole series years agoYeah I really like the costumes, the formality, the glimpse into a bygone era. I can do without some of the more soap opera-y elements but overall I find it pretty watchable.
It was interesting to me
I liked the part where it served as a hospital during WW1I read that the actual manor house where it's filmed, was used as an officer's hospital in WW1. So, definitely realistic.
very realistic in my opinion
Peacemaker finishes up tomorrow - I am a fanI'm interested but don't have HBOMax. When the next season of His Dark Materials come out, I'll probably do a 1-month deal and binge it, along with Peacemaker.
I'm interested but don't have HBOMax. When the next season of His Dark Materials come out, I'll probably do a 1-month deal and binge it, along with Peacemaker.Yeah I signed up again to watch the new Matrix and stuck around for a few shows, but I'll probably ax it after tomorrow.
Yeah I signed up again to watch the new Matrix and stuck around for a few shows, but I'll probably ax it after tomorrow.new matrix was, uh, a movie. yeah...
new matrix was, uh, a movie. yeah...Definitely not that great. Had some good ideas but just seems sort of played out.
Peacemaker finishes up tomorrow - I am a fantried watching it and turned it off after about 20 minutes
There can be only... two?now who is gonna play Sean Connery playing a guy from Spain who has a Scottish accent?
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tried watching it and turned it off after about 20 minutesDid you like Suicide Squad?
I realize thats not a fair sample but I just couldnt take it any longer
Did you like Suicide Squad?yes I enjoyed it
yes I enjoyed itInteresting...well, Peacemaker is great give it another chance
now who is gonna play Sean Connery playing a guy from Spain who has a Scottish accent?we could get darrell hammond to play him. an american, playing a scot, playing a spaniard with a scottish accent.
I just watched the 1st episode of Halo on Paramount plusit's pretty good through 4 episodes. kinda slow so far after ep1, though.
I was pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good and I enjoyed it a lot.
Special affects was great
Anyone else watch Severance? Deeply weird, but quite good.nope but I will cause I like weird
Anyone else watch Severance? Deeply weird, but quite good.I just watched the 1st two episodes of Outer Range
I've only seen two of the best picture nominees, Top Gun and Everything Everywhere. Enjoyed them both, I think the latter is much more likely to win an Oscar over the former, just based on history.Everything could have been about 45 minutes shorter
Starting my annual Oscars movie watch. I'll update as I watchBEST PICTURE
I'm sorry, but I thought Top Gun: Maverick was way over the top. To many unrealistic things that made it almost unwatchable for me. I haven't seen any of the others.I'm not a fan of the original, but I LOVED this version.
I felt so sad after watching Elvis. I hadn't realized how he was like a race horse tied to a fence post his whole life.There's some quote from either George Harrison or Paul McCartney about how they were with Elvis one time and he wouldn't do drugs with them because he wouldn't put it in his body. I always took it as he didn't know what he was taking. But the movie really made it clear that while that was true, he also wasn't given a choice.
Starting my annual Oscars movie watch. I'll update as I watchBEST PICTURE
hey, I know one nameI've heard of Farrel and Blanchett you poor dirt farmer . One played for the Cubs the other played for the Phillies you rube
Jamie Lee Curtis
Just finished watching Everything Everywhere All the TimeI think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'
what a pile of crap
I used to think Bride of Chucky was the worst movie ever made but it has now been replaced by this movie
dont waste your time
I think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'Its amazing just how far the Academy has sunk
I think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'I saw it and loved it - thought it was well deserving and one of the best movies I've seen in years. Though I'm not sure it's a movie that plays well on the small screen. I took my wife and oldest daughter and they also loved it. A kung fu movie about social media and suicide that is hilarious. It threads a lot of needles.
I saw it and loved it - thought it was well deserving and one of the best movies I've seen in years. Though I'm not sure it's a movie that plays well on the small screen. I took my wife and oldest daughter and they also loved it. A kung fu movie about social media and suicide that is hilarious. It threads a lot of needles.you cant be serious
Seven Kings Must Die | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqCYw_o5lng)came here to post this. so excited. haven't read the books yet, but will probably pick them up after this. loved the tv series, hoping for good closure.
you cant be seriousWell, the fractured movement is definitely there - and has a point too. It does try to overload your senses, though that is in tune with the theme of the movie. It's right there in the title.
there is no plot
just continuous broken fractured movement
Well, the fractured movement is definitely there - and has a point too. It does try to overload your senses, though that is in tune with the theme of the movie. It's right there in the title.I should have paid closer attention to the title
I should have paid closer attention to the titleIt helps if you've seen Ratatouille
its fractured choppy scene after scene for 2 and a half hours
if thats your thing go for it or you could pay someone to jump out of a closet and yell at you every 30 seconds for 2 and a half hours about the same thing
and what makes this even crazier is that it was voted best movie which is insane
We watched "A Man Called Otto" last night.My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beat
From the commercials, it looked like Tom Hanks being a grumpy curmudgeon, and it was certainly that.
From the commercials, it almost looked like a comedy. It most certainly WAS NOT that.
It's an excellent, moving story. Really well done. But don't watch it unless you want to sob like a little effing baby.
We watched "A Man Called Otto" last night.Just caught this post.
From the commercials, it looked like Tom Hanks being a grumpy curmudgeon, and it was certainly that.
From the commercials, it almost looked like a comedy. It most certainly WAS NOT that.
It's an excellent, moving story. Really well done. But don't watch it unless you want to sob like a little effing baby.
My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beat
Ive had enough sadness in my life and want to be entertained in a happy or uplifting way
thats why Ive never watched Titanic
The movie is quite uplifting in it's own way.Yup, it's a wonderful story.
My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beatThese are the movies I only see once. No need to expose myself to it again, no matter how good it is. Like Joker. That's one. Great, quality movie. Never want to see it again.
Ive had enough sadness in my life and want to be entertained in a happy or uplifting way
thats why Ive never watched Titanic
I watched Unstoppable the other night staring Denzel Washington and Chris PineMan, haven't thought about that in a while. That should go in the underrated movies. SNL had a great skit with Scarlett Johansson that made fun of the trailer too
Im a big Denzel fan and the movie was very entertaining
Has anyone watched Succession? Great show; highly recommend.(https://i.imgur.com/anf56Sa.png)
Has anyone watched Succession? Great show; highly recommend.
easy big fella
My wife stated watching Barbie on a plane flight, she made it about 5 minutes in. Someone suggested it to her.
The best movie I've seen in probably 4 or 5 years was the recent Godzilla movie.There have been like five of those so you might need to narrow it down
There have been like five of those so you might need to narrow it downfair..
fair..I've heard that is awesome. I think it came to a theatre near me but I missed it
Godzilla Minus One
Finally watched The Holdovers last night while the snow was falling and enjoyed it greatly. Alexander Payne is one of my favorite directors and Sideways is one of my favorite movies.
I love just about anything with Paul Giamatti.I just watched The Holdovers
Except for “American Splendor”. That was a tough watch, but I gutted it out.
Looking forward to “The Holdovers”.
Watched The Color Purple and Zone of Interest. Unimpressed with both.Feel like Hollywood doesn’t really make anything worth seeing anymore. I saw Matt Damon talk about this, he was basically saying the studios used to take big chances and risks and swing for the fences all the time, because even if a movie didn’t hit and perform like gangbusters at the box office, the revenue from the home sales of VHS in 80s and 90s and then DVD/BluRay in 2000’s and 2010’s would make up for that.
What is the most recent movie you personally would put in your top 50 all time?Second Hand Lions
Watched The Color Purple and Zone of Interest. Unimpressed with both.I'm assuming you didn't see Oppenheimer, because your order of several of these lists would be very different. Oppy's going to win Best Picture, Robert Downey Jr. is going to win Supporting Actor in a ridiculously loaded field.
I've never actually seen the musical The Color Purple, so maybe that's how it is, but it felt like they didn't actually include the entire songs. It's like watching a musician biopic, except it actually was a move, and actually was a musical. This felt like they did a worse remake of the movie, and included a little bit of music. What music there was, was good enough. But this felt 100% like a musical/movie that did not need to be made.
Zone of Interest is apparently "based" on a book, in the loosest of definitions. I thought it would be this interesting look at the dual nature of a war criminal with a home life. Instead, it was just mostly about his home life. If you were going to do that, the whole movie should have been about the wife, then the Holocaust of it all simply being the background, would have been different.
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- The Holdovers
- Barbie
- Maestro
- Past Lives
- Zone of Interest
BEST ACTOR
- Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
- Colman Domingo, Rustin
- Bradley Cooper, Maestro
BEST ACTRESS
- Annette Bening, Nyad
- Carey Mulligan, Maestro
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
- Ryan Gosling, Barbie
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
- Da'Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
- Danielle Brooks, The Color Purple
- America Ferrera, Barbie
- Jodie Foster, Nyad
We saw Wonka back in January, and while I didn't think it was anything to write home about, it got us interested in Timothy Chalamet, which got us through Dune, and now we're looking forward to seeing Dune 2 soon.My wife has a friend who is just over the damn moon for that dude. My wife doesn't see the appeal.
Oppenheimer spent most of the movie showing the government investigation into his communist connection and very little on the actual development of the bombWhen Nolan stuffed 3 movies (an Oppenheimer biopic, a trieastie on nuclear weaponry, and a courtroom drama) into 1, this was to be expected.
this was very disappointing to me
also the movie is way too long 3.5 hours
I mean, the movie is called Oppenheimer, not the Manhattan Project. I guess I always expected it to be about the man, not the bomb.Its fine to show a personal side but he is famous for only 1 thing
Also, it's Christopher Nolan, it's never going to be just a straightforward anything
Its fine to show a personal side but he is famous for only 1 thingDisagree, having his clearance pulled as political retribution is a major part of his story. And I also think that to correctly frame that, you need to show that backstory
I would have liked to see more about that thing then trying to figure out if his security clearance should be lowered
Disagree, having his clearance pulled as political retribution is a major part of his story. And I also think that to correctly frame that, you need to show that backstoryand they did for 3.5 hours
and they did for 3.5 hoursI mean the movie is 3 hours long, and at least half of it is about Los Alamos, so tough to find where 3.5 hours comes from.
Oppenheimer spent most of the movie showing the government investigation into his communist connection and very little on the actual development of the bombWe don't want any more countries coming up with a bomb, do we? :57:
My wife has a friend who is just over the damn moon for that dude. My wife doesn't see the appeal.https://youtu.be/ZTwekCKTklE?si=EkhAxOtyxfDa2FQ_&t=93
Which is good, because I look nothing like him :57:
what a sad state our movie industry is inOne of my students' (family) got me a gift card to the movies for Christmas.....and I'm still waiting for something to see.
The Holdovers is the only decent movie listed unless you are 8 and then you could add Barbie
My wife and I watched Kelce on Amazon Prime the other night. Really enjoyed it. We were a little surprised that it was less about "the brothers" than it was about Jason Kelce specifically and Travis was merely a supporting character. But that's not a bad thing--after watching it, I think that was absolutely the right way to go.So this was a documentary?
Recommend it if you're interested. Talked a lot about his potential retirement decision from that year, which has now turned into his actual retirement as of yesterday.
So this was a documentary?Yes. Followed him through the course of the 2022 season and into the postseason.
My wife and I watched Kelce on Amazon Prime the other night. Really enjoyed it. We were a little surprised that it was less about "the brothers" than it was about Jason Kelce specifically and Travis was merely a supporting character. But that's not a bad thing--after watching it, I think that was absolutely the right way to go.He is almost certainly going to be the third man in the booth for Amazon's NFL games this year
Recommend it if you're interested. Talked a lot about his potential retirement decision from that year, which has now turned into his actual retirement as of yesterday.
BEST PICTURE
- The Holdovers
BEST ACTOR
- Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
- Da'Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
I knew The Holdovers was going to be worth the watch when I noticed it was Paul Giamatti and Alexander Payne teaming up for another film. Their first being Sideways, a great film from 2004.That's one I need to rewatch. I saw it pretty close to when it came out, and I think I was just too young for it.
Just finished watching Napoleon. It's a solid Ridley Scott movie. It definitely feels like most of his do. It's not terribly deep but with a subject like Napoleon, it's hard to do that. There's just too much to cover. I wouldn't call it a great movie but I enjoyed it.I totally forgot about it until it was up for costume design or something. A period biopic starring Joakim Phoenix,. directed by Ridley Scott, felt like Oscar bait, bit wasnt
Just finished watching Napoleon. It's a solid Ridley Scott movie. It definitely feels like most of his do. It's not terribly deep but with a subject like Napoleon, it's hard to do that. There's just too much to cover. I wouldn't call it a great movie but I enjoyed it.just saw it. thought it was absolutely terrible. can't say enough bad things about it. had way too high of expectations because Jauqin is one of the greatest actors alive, Napoleon Bonaparte is one of the most iconic, most important figures in world history, and while Ridley Scott makes an awful lot of shit movies- he also has greatness in him- he's made some great movies. Guy swings for the fences, he'll make anything- sometimes it works- lots of times it doesn't though. just doesn't work here.
just saw it. thought it was absolutely terrible. can't say enough bad things about it. had way too high of expectations because Jauqin is one of the greatest actors alive, Napoleon Bonaparte is one of the most iconic, most important figures in world history, and while Ridley Scott makes an awful lot of shit movies- he also has greatness in him- he's made some great movies. Guy swings for the fences, he'll make anything- sometimes it works- lots of times it doesn't though. just doesn't work here.I felt the same way with Oppenheimer
Jauqin is an amazing actor but the script he had to work with sucks and he's also probably too old to play this role, would've been perfect for it 15 years ago. the movie is way too jumbled, disjointed, confusing. they show nothing of napoleon's skill as a charismatic, cunning politician and very little about his brilliance as a military commander. the love story with josephine is laughable- it is absolutely rushed and there is no chemistry between them on screen- and they basically make napoleon a teenage like horny weirdo beta male cuck for josephine and they throw in weird sex scenes for no reason other than just because. we are suppose to believe napoleon does everything in his entire life because he's insecure about his relationship with josephine. as if that is what drove him to greatness. hint: it didn't. he loved josephine, yes, but he also cheated on josephine like it was going out of style and he threw her to the trash bin in a split second for a younger more attractive princess of royal blood as soon as it benefited him.
this thing needed different writers and it needed to be on HBO or AppleTV+ and be an 8 or 10 part 1 hour per episode series. too much to cover, too much to dive into. can't do napoleon in a single 2 hour and 30 minute movie.
Just finished Oppenheimer, I liked it.I thought it was terrific, but I'm a big fan of RDJ, Cilian Murphy, and Christopher Nolan, so I was probably most likely going to like it no matter what.
In unrelated news, here's a list from IMDB of 50 movies released in 1987. It's pretty astonishing how many good-to-great movies are on this list, for just ONE release year. These days we'd be lucky to see the same amount of quality released over a 5-7 year period.movies on the whole just used to be so much better in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Even the early 2000s they were still really good.
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&release_date=1987-01-01,1987-12-31
I'm not saying EVERY movie on this list is a hit or a winner, but man there are a bunch that are, and plenty of others that are entertaining even if not "great."
Im rewatching Band of BrothersDid you watch Masters of the Air? I've been debating watching Band of Brothers again before starting that. I probably haven't watched it in 10 years and figured its a good time to start it again.
Id forgetten just how good it was
I felt the same way with OppenheimerExactly.. especially this "the movie is way too jumbled, disjointed, confusing"
Did you watch Masters of the Air? I've been debating watching Band of Brothers again before starting that. I probably haven't watched it in 10 years and figured its a good time to start it again.Yes and enjoyed it a lot
Apparently Mel Brooks is working on a sequel to Spaceballs.Hes Alive?
Hes Alive?Stop quoting Young Frankenstein. Different Brooks movie :57:
Based on fan reactions and glowing reviews the three shows I would stream if I had the time are:
1. Succession 2. The Bear 3. Only Murders in the Building
Thanks to my phone upgrade, Verizon gave me 3 months of free Disney+/Hulu. So I've been able to watch the first seasons of The Bear and Only Murders in the Building. Both very strong and living up to the hype and gushing reviews.I watched the first season of Only Murders and enjoyed it
Only Murders comes across as a fresh, timely, and inventive way to tell an unfolding murder mystery.
Between the two, The Bear stands out as the more serious, artistic show. Able to capture the raw chaos of both a stressed restaurant kitchen and its workers dealing with their own uncertainty and trauma in Chicago. In this regard the character of Richie (below, played by Ebon Moss-Bachrach) stands out above the rest of the cast, stealing every scene he's in. Season 3 releases today, so more to look forward to.
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Couldn't get into The Bear. Also, why is that show considered a comedy for Emmy purposes? That show is all serious drama.
Yeah The Bear is mislabeled as a drama. I really enjoy the show, looking forward to watching this new season.I have always liked Selena Gomez
I like Only Murders in the Building as well, pacing is a little slow but the show is very well done otherwise. They found the perfect vehicle to contain Short's somewhat cringey tendency to over-act.
I have always liked Selena GomezI find her to be a relatively poor actor. She now has a show on the food network which is a little bit cringe.
Kids watched the Sandlot last night...again, and I found myself sucked in...again. I think baseball is so intertwined with American culture in the 20th century, that it lends itself to the best sports movies, because is doesn't have to be ABOUT the play on the field. With football surpassing it, I wonder if in another generation we will start seeing better football movies, because the list of good football movies is very short.Get me the ball Danny
Thanks for bumping this thread... Was just thinking about another thing.I wanted to like it, but it's just LIV, golf with no stakes, and all parties seem aware. I would almost rather them tackle some difficult putt putt courses
Not so much a TV "show" as it is a competition series, but have any other golfers been watching the TGL thing? It's a little ridiculous, being simulator golf on TV, but it's a fun time-waster compared to much of anything else on TV...
I wanted to like it, but it's just LIV, golf with no stakes, and all parties seem aware. I would almost rather them tackle some difficult putt putt coursesThey're definitely having some growing pains. The best match to date was Tiger's team vs Rory's team, but that was partly because it's the only one that hasn't really been a bit of a blowout. Even the one from last night, Morikawa's team took an early lead and never let it get close. They could improve a lot with it.
They're definitely having some growing pains. The best match to date was Tiger's team vs Rory's team, but that was partly because it's the only one that hasn't really been a bit of a blowout. Even the one from last night, Morikawa's team took an early lead and never let it get close. They could improve a lot with it.Yeah, I just kind of wonder if they could do more fun things with the courses, since they are virtual.
But unlike LIV they didn't pretend to have stakes, or actively take the most unlikable players to start their series, and it doesn't take multiple days to watch... So the fact that it's a 2 hr diversion is fine. Meaningless, but at least a little bit fun.
But as I said, they need to improve it from here.
I've gotten completely sucked into Severance. It's so damned weird. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be like Lost. That show got too lost in its own lore and history and kind of "lost" its way. There's a fine line between fun and frustrating when it comes to these types of shows.I tried to watch the first couple of episodes but just couldn't get into it. Maybe I'll try again.
Yeah, I just kind of wonder if they could do more fun things with the courses, since they are virtual.Or at least talk about them.
A show that seems similar to Lost, though, that I have been enjoying, is Silo. I'm almost done with the first season, and it's pretty interesting.I want to give that one a shot, since I've read the entire book trilogy and really enjoyed it.
I have not read the Silo books but know lots of people who liked them.My folks watched Landman, because I'm in the energy industry, and now they may never talk to me again.
I could never get into Yellowstone, not sure why. My folks love it and constantly want to talk about it, but I have nothing to offer.
My folks watched Landman, because I'm in the energy industry, and now they may never talk to me again.I loved Landman. I like a good cartel crime show. Some of the scenes and situations with the daughter were very cringey though.
I loved Landman. I like a good cartel crime show. Some of the scenes and situations with the daughter were very cringey though.That was a call from my mom in their retirement community in Florida. I had to ensure her that our young children would be even more shocked than she was if we allowed them to watch it
Thanks for bumping this thread... Was just thinking about another thing.I'll watch it.
Not so much a TV "show" as it is a competition series, but have any other golfers been watching the TGL thing? It's a little ridiculous, being simulator golf on TV, but it's a fun time-waster compared to much of anything else on TV...
I've found that I really don't like mafia/mobster/cartel movies or TV shows. I can't find any reason to want to watch these characters interact, I pretty much just want them all dead from the opening moments. I don't even bother to torture myself with these shows anymore.That's where SFIrish is: these are horrible people, why would I watch a show/movie when I don't like any of them?
I've gotten completely sucked into Severance. It's so damned weird. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be like Lost. That show got too lost in its own lore and history and kind of "lost" its way. There's a fine line between fun and frustrating when it comes to these types of shows.We started it after it was done. I cant imagine watching it in real time. Its like Mad Men. It was great when we were binging it, but when you watch it in real time, there are whole episodes where nothing happens
That's where SFIrish is: these are horrible people, why would I watch a show/movie when I don't like any of them?My wife is that way. She either needs to root for someone, or root for someone to redeem themselves. We never got through Breaking Bad, because she hated everybody
I find the well-made show about shades of gray and moral conundrums worth the watch. But it has to be well made.
On the other hand, I'm tiring of war movies. Inevitably I end up watching the big ones, but I've been enjoying them less and less. As noted on that other thread, Masters of the Air bored me. 1917 and the new All Quiet on the Western Front are exceptions. They were excellent. Dunkirk was really well done, but I'm not happier that I watched it.
as you know, I don't watch movies but I absolutely refuse to watch horror moviesSame here. I saw Poltergeist when I was seven and it scared the bejeezus out of me. I've never seen any of the Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, or Friday the 13th movies and never will. I'm a big baby when it comes to horror movies and I don't care who knows it.
the bloody ones are just terrible and the ones with the devil scare me
For me I don't know that I have any particular "fear" of horror movies, but I also have no real interest in, or enjoyment of, that genre.
The slasher movies don't make much of an impression on me, but the creepy spooky ones dealing with ghosts, demons, or the occult-- those can get to me. Especially when you see, like, young kids that are ghosts and maybe twins and if there's any creepy ghost kids singing in minor keys, well, my eyes might be closed at that point.I just don't enjoy the slasher ones, but the creepy ones, I love. I find myself enjoying a great deal of "bad" ones in that genre. If the Church is involved in the plot, I probably loved it
I just don't enjoy the slasher ones, but the creepy ones, I love. I find myself enjoying a great deal of "bad" ones in that genre. If the Church is involved in the plot, I probably loved itYeah, pretty much the same here. Demons, ancient spirits with grudges, exorcisms, haunted houses, that kind of stuff I can really enjoy. My daughter really loves them so it gives us something in common to watch and talk about.
We finished Yellowstone, then did 1883, and now are working through the first season of 1923.
1883 was depressing af.
Great performance by the gorgeous Isabel May...Agreed. They needed some of those good performances by her, and Sam Elliott, to try to save the weakness that Tim/Faith brought to the show...
Yeah, affordability is the main reason we have so many competition and "reality" shows. They're cheap to produce.garbage
My opinion-- you get what you pay for.
Speaking of sitcoms, I hear Hollywood really wants to bring sitcoms back to due to costs. A big reason why ABC's Shifting Gears with Tim Allen and Kat Dennings was greenlit. For now it's a rating hit; definitely captures the 90s sitcom heyday of low stakes laugh tracks.Yup. Particularly with a limited "main" cast.
The productions costs on some of these shows have to be insane. The Star Wars and Marvel shows on Disney+ have to cost as much as a movie.100%. Game of Thrones had the problem as well. You do 10-15 episodes that cost $10-15 million per- you're spending 150-200 million a season to make a show. Plus the millions you have to spend on promotion.
Agreed. They needed some of those good performances by her, and Sam Elliott, to try to save the weakness that Tim/Faith brought to the show...Aside from his flying exploits, I'm pretty sure Ford wishes he lived this role in its time.
Harrison Ford & Helen Mirren are doing a MUCH better job leading the way in 1923. But that is as expected, as they're actors, not country singers :57:
Then I thought about the comment somewhere on this site about it was just pushing too much of an agenda. I'm not sure that I agree. Maybe I'm the last to know that the story revolves around a character's sex change/gender transition (call it what you want). And yes, the character appears to be a better person after their surgery. BUT...the comment he makes before the surgery is that he can't live as he is--it's all going to fall apart on him. Then he becomes a she, but she also can't live as is. She makes decisions that inevitably result in her own death, and a lot of other bad things--unable to get away from who she was before. If I were to take a through line from this movie, the point is that whether he or she, the character was doomed. In the end she loses everything--just as he was worried would happen if he didn't make the change. And making that change is central to why everything falls apart.I think that's what we, or at least I, meant. Every movie has a viewpoint, or a stance, I don't think that makes it an agenda. But my wife and I both hated it, and looking at its reviews in real time, they weren't great. Nominating it for all of those award seemed like the agenda. And then it sort of backfired spectacularly
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I think the Academy's nomination of it as a Best Film is more agenda pushing than the film itself. The movie is pretty good, but not best picture material (I don't think). I think Zoe Saldana does a great job, and generally the acting is good. The story is a little stilted (also typcial, since it's sort of a musical).
Watched Anora last night.
I'm not a cinematographer, but something about they way they shot it felt cheap. Mix in the fact that the first 20 minutes are entirely inside a strip club, I had to make sure I hadn't actually rented a softcore Cinemax spoof.
The first half of the movie was whatever, but it REALLY picks up once the two goons show up, and the second half I enjoyed a lot. Starting to think nothing is really going to jump out as my clear #1 this year though.
Anybody else watching Silo on Apple? I love a well done future dystopia movie.
This one is novel as it depicts life after an apocalyptic event where the survivors live in a silo underground, completely self sufficient from any outside world needs. They also have lived this way for maybe 100+ years.
The catch is that somehow over 100 years ago there was an uprising that resulted in the destruction of all knowledge and references to the outside world. The only information regular citizens have is from a camera outside the silo that depicts a lifeless, gray world. They have computers in the silo, but only very rudimentary ones like we had in the early 80’s. No tv, radio etc. anything from the “ before times “ is forbidden, they’re called relics.
Anybody else watching Silo on Apple? I love a well done future dystopia movie.
Silo is based on books and I imagine I'll probably read them at some point and get ahead of the show.
I did end up watching Conclave. It was decent.Nose never recovered from being removed to play Voldemort
Finnes was outstanding, although I was slightly distracted the entire movie by his breathing and nasal 'whistle'. Weird.
Was that done for effect?
Nose never recovered from being removed to play VoldemortMy kids have become huge Wes Anderson fans, they love pretty much all of his stuff. So they were hilariously surprised when I told them that Monsieur Gustave H from Grand Budapest, was none other than he-who-must-not-be-named.
Really enjoying the Yellowstone prequels. Binging all day while working on orders.it's kind of crazy how they took a great show, and then also had a bunch of great spin-offs
We're watching The Penguin on Max right now. Three episodes in. Enjoying it so far.it's a very well done show, that probably should be 6 episodes instead of 8. How she didnt win an Emmy, Ill never understand
Still hard to believe it's Colin Farrell crammed in behind all the prosthetics and makeup.
I've read the trilogy. It's quite good. Highly recommend.I read the first book "Wool" and now I'm almost done with the 2nd book Shift. As expected, some things in the movie align with the book , but some don't.
Haven't checked out the series yet, but I definitely want to.
it's a very well done show, that probably should be 6 episodes instead of 8. How she didnt win an Emmy, Ill never understand
Waiting for the new season of Severance to finish, then we'll cut on Apple TV for a month and watch it. I hope the new season holds up to the standard the first season set. s1 was one of the best shows I've come across in some time.
I just started Severance last night. Made it through the first 5 or 6 episodes.
Eager to watch more tonight. It is odd, eerie, and uncomfortable.
And I yearn for more.....
Without giving anything away, i.e. no spoilers, what's the basic premise for Severance?
I told my wife I'd heard it was good, but without having the first clue what it's about, don't necessarily want to truly advocate to add it to our watching list...
I just started Severance last night. Made it through the first 5 or 6 episodes.THink it might finish like LOST with a disappointing ending.
Eager to watch more tonight. It is odd, eerie, and uncomfortable.
And I yearn for more.....
THink it might finish like LOST with a disappointing ending.
1.a. & 1.b. Later I would learn that's a JJ Abrams hallmark. Take over something, get it kick-started with a lot of excitement, turn it over to somebody else and bail after a little bit, leaving them with a bunch of mystery-boxes you thought up and had zero clue where they would lead, but not care, 'cuz you're on to the next thing, lol.
2. Even later I would learn from one of the two main showrunners of Lost say in an interview that neither of them had much experience at the time, and Abrams just dumped all this stuff in their lap that he'd stuffed into the first few episodes, and basically said "See what you can do with this." They were further done in by ABC, which had originally ordered a limited run series from Abrams' company, and so the show was always sort of meant to be a one-off, single season story. Due to its quick and massive popularity, ABC turned around and told them "This is great! Give us multiple seasons worth!" At which point they were like "Crap. We don't have a story built for that." So they wound up continually adding new mystery boxes and stuffing all new plot contrivances into the mix.
A newly released show I'm currently watching is Paradise (Hulu). Even though it's pulling from a few already well used Sci-Fi scenarios, it is so well executed as to be a thoroughly fascinating and satisfying watch. Currently Paradise is intended as a limited series - 8 total episodes. And without getting ahead of expectations, I can already sense a potential season 2 will feel forced.
BRAD: I don't know if I agree with MDT (there, that's better) on not knowing anything about Severance, but the basic premise is explained in episode 1, I think. It's sci-fi set in basically modern day. (The cars are dated, but the day-to-day tech (like phones) isn't.)
I mentioned to a co-worker that I cut off my Youtube TV when the college football season ended and she laughed. I think she thought I was joking.We did the same thing. will start it back up in August. Only thing we miss is CNBC.
Shame on her.
I guess I caught up on 1923, after watching 1883. Good to see how the West was like in Cincy's early years.
Major League is goodHot take, I hate Caddy Shack
I'll go with Caddy Shack
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Hot take, I hate Caddy ShackLacey Underall moved in with TY and has a pool and a pond. Pond would be good for you
My teenaged girls now loathe Adrien Brody, having no idea who he is.Show them Splice
'If you're gonna be all cocky on stage, say something at least interesting or funny,' 'get lost Dude.'
I was reading during this but I guess he smuggly kept going on and on about nothing. The Get Lost Dude got my attention.
I don't care for the stuffed fake gopher but Dangerfield & Murry were funny, IMOComedy ages poorly, I dont love Animal House, but its fine. I love Airplane and Stripes from that same era. I just dont find Caddyshack funny beyond a couple of quotes
Sandlot and Remember the Titans of those, but my Other vote is Major League
I mentioned to a co-worker that I cut off my Youtube TV when the college football season ended and she laughed. I think she thought I was joking.
Shame on her.
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Rudy is a nice story, but greatest sports movie of all time? No.One of my friends was on the team with him. He says Rudy is an asshole.
Rudy is a nice story, but greatest sports movie of all time? No.I enjoyed it, that's all that counts. Whether some other player didn't like him is irrelevant to me. I know movies get, um, Hollywooded, when they deal with any real events.
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When was the last actually serious sports movie-- not a comedy about sports, or a spoof movie-- actually released?Brian's Song?
When was the last actually serious sports movie-- not a comedy about sports, or a spoof movie-- actually released?Boys in the Boat last year. Air was sports adjacent.
I love auto racing but don't consider it to be an actual sport.Air was the movie about MJ signing with Nike. It was pretty mainstream.
Never heard of the others. I suppose I'm thinking more specifically of mainstream non-comedy non-spoof sports movies. Things like Field of Dreams or Rudy or Remember The Titans. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about any such movies in a very long time.
More recent non comedy/non retelling of a true(ish) story:Yeah Creed was 2015, 10 years ago. FNL was 2004, 21 years ago. Million Dollar Baby is also 21 years ago. I don't know the other ones.
Creed (sequel, though)
Challengers
Goon
Chasing Mavericks
The Wrestler
Older:
Friday Night Lights
Million Dollar Baby
Not going to lie to you, don't know how you missed Boys in the Boat. That was a big budget, big promotional release movie.If you say so. I've never heard of it.
But I suppose the general answer to my question is, yes there have been. I'm just not finding out about them for whatever reason.
It's true that I don't watch as much TV as I used to, but I do watch a lot of live sports still, and I do listen to sports talk radio from time to time.
If you say so. I've never heard of it.To elaborate, I've heard about ALL of the auto racing movies mentioned above, and I've seen all of them, and will see the new Brad Pitt F1 movie when it's released this summer.
If you are inclined to watch one from the lists above, make it this one. The WrestlerThanks I'll put it on the list.
If you say so. I've never heard of it.Never heard of it.
A newly released show I'm currently watching is Paradise (Hulu). Even though it's pulling from a few already well used Sci-Fi scenarios, it is so well executed as to be a thoroughly fascinating and satisfying watch. Currently Paradise is intended as a limited series - 8 total episodes. And without getting ahead of expectations, I can already sense a potential season 2 will feel forced.
I'll have to check it out. I like Sterling K. Brown and usually enjoy the shows he does. Totally get what you're saying about the single-season format. One of the best things Hulu has done in the last few years (imo) is Dopesick, and can you imagine trying to do a second season of that? (I feel like I shouldn't even type that, because somebody out there is dumb enough to try.)
Man I tried to watch the first two episodes of Severance again, and I just couldn't get into it. Could have just been the mood I was in at the time, but if I've given a show two separate chances and not been pulled in, it usually means I'm just not going to like it.
For comparison, I'm trying to think of some other recent-ish breakaway hits that people couldn't get enough of.Yeah I'd tend to agree with that. I got bored with both Lost and Mr. Robot after Season 1.
Stranger Things--s2 was okay, but it didn't come close to s1
Lost--one of the best comparisons to Severance in that there's a lot of mystery-box plot devices....s2 was a noticeable drop. It wasn't quite the point where the audience abandoned the show, but it began the downhill slide.
Mr. Robot--s2-4 actually stayed very well done, but as normal, it never could quite recapture the magic of s1.
Breaking Bad--never dropped, imo. Hooked people in s1 and kept it there for the duration.
Looking at that short list, I think there might be something to the idea that shows built on mysteries or crazy premises are so hard to keep up because s1 introduces the mystery and the weird world you've never thought about before. Once your brain has processed the concept, that element is no longer novel in the subsequent seasons, and therefore it struggles to keep the same level of interest. Whereas a show like Breaking Bad is completely plot and character driven. No mystery or strange new world to think about.
For me, Stranger Things is the one on that short list that not only couldn't match s1, it eventually became nearly unwatchable. s2 was worth watching, I thought, though it didn't live up to s1. s3 got ridiculous and terrible, and I would've checked out except for the wife wanted to watch s4. Which was better than s3, but not as good as s2, and nowhere close to s1. I liked the 80's nostalgia-bait, but unless I'm roped into it again, I doubt I'd volunteer my time for s5.
Actively loathed Breaking Bad, hated The Shield, never bothered to watch Better Call Saul.
I'm okay with flawed humans doing bad things. For me, Mad Men is the best television show of all time. Many of the characters did bad things, but they weren't bad people and, for the most part, they weren't criminals.
Ozark.Is about money laundering for the mob, right? I tried to watch the first episode and dumped it.
Is about money laundering for the mob, right? I tried to watch the first episode and dumped it.
Actively loathed Breaking Bad, hated The Shield, never bothered to watch Better Call Saul.
I'm okay with flawed humans doing bad things. For me, Mad Men is the best television show of all time. Many of the characters did bad things, but they weren't bad people and, for the most part, they weren't criminals.
I wish somebody here liked Severance and was caught up on it. I got nobody to talk to about it :)Maybe I'll give it another try just to chat with you about it. :)
I wish somebody here liked Severance and was caught up on it. I got nobody to talk to about it :)Just not caught up--will work on that...
Disagree. Severance s1 was the best season of TV I've seen in years, and s2 continued that as well as a show can, I think. It's usually very hard for a show which puts out a stellar first season to match the quality and keep it as interesting in subsequent seasons. Most of them fail at it....even if they stay good, there's a drop-off.You can't disagree with how I feel about something. I said, I liked the first season, but I've simply lost interest in Season 2. And I've already watched like 3-4 episodes. I almost think I need to go back and re-watch S1, because either I don't remember enough of it that S2 isn't making sense, or it's just not well written.
I was very pleased with how Severance s2 went. It starts to answer some of the questions, moves the plot along, and we get a lot more information about the "outties." The cliffhanger was not quite what season 1's was, but I'm okay with that. I don't need another three years of waiting with that level of intrigue.
But it still left plenty of room for the show to expand and there are still questions to answer. It's on a great pace, imo.
Silly Aggie.
You can't disagree with how I feel about something. I said, I liked the first season, but I've simply lost interest in Season 2. And I've already watched like 3-4 episodes. I almost think I need to go back and re-watch S1, because either I don't remember enough of it that S2 isn't making sense, or it's just not well written.Yeah I've stopped watching many shows just due to the 1-2 year gap from season to season that now seems to be the norm.
I might just go ahead and re-watch S1, and then give S2 another shot. I've found that my attention is not up to snuff to go more than 3-4 months between seasons anymore and remember any given detail.
Yeah I've stopped watching many shows just due to the 1-2 year gap from season to season that now seems to be the norm.
Back when a season was 26-32 episodes and ran from September to May with only a few-month break, it was a lot less work to stay engaged. But now, unless it's something I REALLY like and am willing to binge prior seasons to catch up, I'm probably just going to stop watching if the layoff is more than 3-5 months. Which is just about everything, these days.
You can't disagree with how I feel about something. I said, I liked the first season, but I've simply lost interest in Season 2. And I've already watched like 3-4 episodes. I almost think I need to go back and re-watch S1, because either I don't remember enough of it that S2 isn't making sense, or it's just not well written.
I might just go ahead and re-watch S1, and then give S2 another shot. I've found that my attention is not up to snuff to go more than 3-4 months between seasons anymore and remember any given detail.
That's why I write my own synopses of seasons of shows I like. I write a couple pages detailing the characters and what's going on with them, then read it quickly before firing up another season. Works well, does take some effort.Yeah writing a synopsis is way more effort than I'm going to put into watching television.
One of the good things about the "prestige" shows of the last 20ish years which have between 8 and 13 episodes is they are way better if a binge happens. Those old network shows that had 22-26 eps per season were the tv version of what the music industry did to albums.....fill of worthless filler and crap episodes. It's harder to notice when you watch one per week, but if you go through a bunch of them at a time, it's glaring.
A few of them made it work every single week. Most didn't. Off the top of my head, Person of Interest had full network seasons but managed to make almost all the episodes really good. (There were some definite filler eps in s1, though.)
I write a couple pages detailing the characters and what's going on with them, then read it quickly before firing up another season. Works well, does take some effort.
Uhh…what kind of dork do you have to be to write yourself a book report on a tv show…for yourself ? lol, I find that really funny. 🤣
You got a lot of time on your hands bud !
Yeah writing a synopsis is way more effort than I'm going to put into watching television.
And I think there are plenty of "old-style" shows that had great episodes week after week. Star Trek The Next Generation comes to mind as an old 26-episode-per-year-and-3-month-break style of show that was not only consistent in quality of writing, direction, scripts, and acting, but also featured extremely detailed and high-budget SFX for its time. X-Files is another that comes to mind.
Sure, those are examples of very high-quality shows and not all of them were like that, but then again, I'd say a majority of short-season huge-waiting-gap 6-to-10-episode shows being produced by the content providers like Netflix and Prime, aren't particularly good, either. So the modern short-season-long-gap type shows haven't isolated and distilled some previously unattainable recipe for success, either. There is good and bad, just as before.
The main difference is that previously I could remember the show, with only a 3-month gap. Now, when I have to wait 12-24 months, I often lose interest and move along.
The kind of dork who doesn't remember tv shows very well. I remember books in pretty good detail, but tv shows and movies.....just don't stick with me, even when I really enjoy them. Not sure why.I'm wondering if George RR Martin will ever release another of the GoT books. If he does, I'll be hard pressed to remember who everyone is, and I read the books in ~2019, 8 years after the last book in the series was released.
Yes, I had a lot of time on my hands in the 2010's.
It only stays roughly true to the books. IMO, and I just read all 3 books, the first book is good, the 2nd and 3rd seemed kinda lazy. Lazy in that I didn’t find the premise believable. The underlying story was interesting, but the mechanics were clunky.
Well, that describes the show pretty well, imo.I did find the initial premise intriguing. People live in an underground bunker for generations. They have no contact with the outside world. They don’t have any information about the outside world, not even what stars are or what happened to drive them underground. They only know that anyone being sent outside dies, but before they do they clean the camera, giving everybody else a clear view of the grim world outside. Some volunteer to do it, because they don’t wish to live in the silo anymore. Some are punished and sent outside.
I did find the initial premise intriguing.
Yeah, the premise is great. It's a trope that works well and has been used in other places, like the Fallout show (which is great), which I think was based on a video-game, and going all the way back to a children's fiction novel by H.M. Hoover called This Time of Darkness, and possibly before. I loved that book, btw. I didn't know what to call it at the time or what worked about it for me, but it was my first taste of the dystopian genre. And of course, the setting being an underground civilization with classes based on how far up or down they live, who hate each other, and they're all trapped in there because the world outside is supposed to be toxic and unlivable, was super cool too (now that I think about it, Silo really lifted that idea).In the book, Common's character has very little page time (don't know what you call it?). In the series, he's a major character. To me, the main difference between a show like Fallout (loved this one too) and Silo is that the people in the shelter in Fallout pretty much knew how they got there, and there is a silliness to it that lets you excuse some major plot holes.
Which is why it's disappointing to see several elements of the show not live up to its potential. One of the weirdest things about it is how much more likeable and relatable Sheriff Holston and his wife Allison are in the first episode than everyone who comes after them. Their lines are better written, their story causes you to invest in them more, and they were flat-out better actors. When they turn out not to be the main characters after ep. 1, it declines. That first episode was at least a 9 out of 10 imo. By mid-s2 this show is a 6, 7 at best. There are also some significant plot holes/ret-cons from s1 that are like "WTF?"
And Common/Sims all by himself is a 3. That dude should be nowhere near a show of supposed quality. Needs to stick to music.
Guess I haven't gotten that far yet. s2e6 is up next and I haven't seen anything about AI, that I recall.They were decent reads. They kind of finish the story from the first book. IMO, the first book is the best because it kinda leaves a lot of mystery.
In spite of your earlier criticisms of the 2nd and 3rd books, would you still recommend the series? I love reading but currently I have so little time for it, I don't want to spend it on inferior works.
I don't know, it's been a while though. Pretty impossible to find actual cooking shows on linear TV anymore. It's all either those stupid competition/reality shows, or shows that review restaurants like DDD. Neither of those, are really my thing.5 years, at least.
Same thing happened to HGTV, which used to show actual home improvement/home design stuff, with a lot of DIY focus. Then they switched to stupid reality/competition shows, but moved a lot of their actual home improvement content, to the DIY Network. But then the last I checked, the DIY Network had followed suit, and there was no home improvement/design/DIY content to be found anywhere. I don't even know if DIY network is still around.
You can obviously find a lot of that type of stuff on Youtube, and also on some of those rando free channels you see on the Roku or Firestick. But it's just about impossible to find on linear TV.
and the Cooking Channel, every time I've tuned to it, it's been food/restaurant travel shows. Man v. Food, Andrew Zimmern's bizarre food thing, and Michael Symon's Burgers, Brews, and Cue.Fermented walrus colon,I mean c'mon even the writers for South Park or Two and Half Men wouldn't think of that. Watched one episode where he was in Taiwan I think eating something called Green Stinky Tofu. Ya had to see it - started LMAO then almost hurled watching Zimmern almost hurling
Last night we watched Wolfs with Clooney and Pitt, since we've got Apple TV this month.Thought the same. It certainly wasn't a great movie, but it was a decent two hours and I don't regret watching it.
I thought it was pretty good for what it was. It almost reminded me of some of those old Guy Ritchie movies, but not quite. A lot of the movie is just the two of them talking to each other, so if you like them as actors and like their screen presence, it's probably a fun 2 hrs. If not, you probably shouldn't bother.
I remember liking that one as well, but haven't seen it in decades. In general I like Billy Crystal in pretty much everything he does.
OK @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) my son started watching Severance and I sat down with him. I've now made it through 4 episodes and find it more interesting than I did the first two times I watched. My i s c & a aggie wife, and my daughter, had started watching it separately, and they sat down and watched episode 4 with us as well. So maybe it'll be our new family show. We usually have one we'll watch together, every few months.I recommended it to three different people and all three said they didn't feel hooked until ep 7.
Just watched "A Complete Unknown"Definitely enjoyed it. Any movie that involves music that I grew up with always invokes feelings.
I liked it
Having grown up during the time period it brought back a lot of good memories
I'm pretty much done with multiverse stories. I thought Everything Everywhere All At Once was very well done and I enjoyed it, but that kind of show is now the exception.
Anyways, like I said, I was pretty confused the whole time for S2.
I couldn't really figure out WTF was going on with Gemma?
She's being held hostage in the floor below the regular severed floor. They take her into various rooms where separate innies are activated for that particular room. So unlike the severed people we're familiar with who only have one innie, Gemma has a slew of different innies. Each room is a stressful or unpleasant situation. Presumably Lumen is testing to see that the severance technology holds up under stress and that memories don't bleed through, and may intend that to be a main function of the implant (like the senator's pregnant wife who didn't feel like going through childbirth, so she made her innie do it). But that's a bit speculative at this point. Each of the rooms she goes into have names that correspond to files Mark S has completed throughout season 1 and 2. Indicating the numbers he quarantines may somehow be memories, or maybe personality traits that are being removed for each room's innie. Don't overlook how the 4 categories the MDR team classifies the number clusters into are the same 4 "tempers" Kier identified in his work. (They're also represented by the 4 dancers in that hyper-creepy scene from Dylan's waffle party.)
And what was the deal with the little asian girl?
They don't specifically say, but they do say she's trying to get the same "fellowship" or whatever they call it that Cobel/Mrs. Selvig got when she was a kid, as revealed in her backstory episode. The doctor lady who was helping Mark on the outside to re-integrate once said about Cobel "They raised her, she's Lumen through and through." That seems to indicate whatever's going on with this Asian kid. Like Cobel, she's being groomed to be a true disciple, and probably shows a lot of promise, since that fellowship is supposed to be prestigious, it seems (according to Lumen).
Were they trying to reserruct Kier, and what did goats have to do with it?
I think it's heavily indicated, though not yet explicitly stated, that The Board is Kier and his descendants, although how and where they're still alive, I don't know. Maybe their consciousnesses are stored in a severance-type chip. I don't know if they're trying to resurrect them into new bodies, but that seems plausible. They haven't explained the goats, other than just as some kind of sacrificial offering. There's a ton of fan theories about that, but I don't think the show has explained it.
What was supposed to happen to Gemma?
The creepy doctor was told when Gemma completed the Cold Harbor room, he would have to say goodbye to her. It wasn't clear whether that meant they would kill her, or delete her original personality, or if it just meant that he wouldn't be able to see her anymore. She asked the doctor herself what would happen to her when she was finished, and he told her "You will see the world. And the world will see you." Lots more fan theories about that too, but again, it hasn't been explained yet.
You mentioned you frequently don't watch closely, so I have to ask, how close were you paying attention? You've got a lot of big things right and a lot of the smaller details wrong.Well, like I said. Season 1 was at least a couple of years ago. I just simply don’t remember a lot of what happened. I freely admit that sometimes I just watch passively, I often need to rewind certain parts and rewatch because I didn’t catch something the first time. I really blame this from relatively recent times for me because of streaming and the ability to pause and go back. I never had a real DVR before streaming, now that I stream I find I watch it differently.
With Gemma, at times it seemed like her outie was present. She knew she wanted out, but when she attempted to leave, her mind would pass into her innie. I guess I didn’t completely pick up on the multiple innie situation, it sorta seemed like she was zombiefied.
Anyways, like I said, things seemed to skip around a bunch. I may rewatch S1 and 2 just to try and keep up with everything.
Re: Severance - GigemIf it engages me enough, I'll put my full attention to it. I just simply find it slightly interesting so I watch it half-heartedly in turn.
I'm going to try to keep this as concise as possible, and Mike already did a good job of addressing most of your posts. But first, I'll pile on and say half-heartedly watching the episodes cannot lead to a full understanding and appreciation of the show. There are multiple instances where a line or two of dialogue provides a great deal of context going back (or forward) several episodes, even across seasons. The use of color (blue, red, and purple) creates a theme throughout the show. The use of sound, or in one specific instance, the lack of sound provided a significant clue to what is happening.
Remaining questions / plot holes:
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b) We got backstories on all the innies and Cobel, but Irving's motivation for severance was not completely explained. His outie was clearly trying to infiltrate Lumon, but why? It is unclear whether Irving has been written out of the show, or if will get some flashbacks. I have been wondering how long John Turturro could commit to this project...
c) Plot hole: If iMark shows up at the birthing cabin, that would mean he should show up in all severance places. Yet, oMark rescues iGemma from Cold Harbor. That shouldn't have happened, and it was the only major gaff I've noticed.
b) I don't think they would've introduced as much as they did about oIrving if they didn't intend on continuing the thread. His character doesn't make a lot of sense if his story ends here and I have enough faith in the writers to think he'll be back. Plus, I haven't heard anything about Turturro leaving the show. But you're right, his last scenes in s2e9 could be taken to mean he's just riding off into the sunset and the way it played out, I don't fault anyone for wondering about it.
I agree with all that. Just aside from the storyline, John is more of a movie star than TV star, he didn't participate in the behind the scenes interviews that I can remember and didn't participate in promotional activities for S2 that I'm aware of. I'm just wondering how long he can commit to this project full time.
c) I think Cobel said during the planning phase that Gemma's floor wouldn't affect oMark. Only the regular severance floor will produce iMark. What seems plausible to me is that most severed people are binary.....oPerson and iPerson, and that's what the birthing cabins are built for as well. Gemma is a special case. They're testing a lot of stuff on her which includes rooms that produce a multitude of different iGemma's, so the technology controlling her rooms can't be binary. Thus, her floor may operate differently and so it would make sense that it doesn't affect Mark's chip the same way.
Yes, there is one iMark and multiple iGemmas, but that's not my issue. The question is whether severance is activated on a per environment basis or everywhere a severance environment exists?
All the innies are activated on the severed floor AND the outdoor experience. We learned through Helena that Glasgow Block exists, allowing her to bypass severance activation in severance environments (S floor + outdoor experience). This block is controlled remotely, presumably via the control / security room.
Devon first mentioned taking oMark to the birthing cabin to Reghabi, who said, "that's not how it works." But it did work. Why?
I don't remember Cobel saying Mark wouldn't be affected on the testing floor, but if she did, that means either iMark is activated selectively (S floor, outdoor experience, birthing cabin, NOT testing floor rooms) or the Glasgow block was activated on him ONLY for the testing floor. Either one of these scenarios would require remote programming / override from the control room, which Cobel does not have access to at the time. So it's not plausible.
The only plausible explanation is that iMark is activated at BOTH the birthing cabin and Cold Harbor, or at neither, because he would not have been programmed for either ahead of time.
EDIT: I glossed over this:
"They're testing a lot of stuff on her which includes rooms that produce a multitude of different iGemma's, so the technology controlling her rooms can't be binary. Thus, her floor may operate differently and so it would make sense that it doesn't affect Mark's chip the same way."
I guess I can understand that line of thought, but it requires testing floor rooms to be programmed completely differently than all other severance environments. Certainly possible. I guess we don't know enough about how / why multiple iGemmas are generated.
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EDIT: I like your naming convention of iName and oName. Clever, useful, simple, and I'm stealing it, as you can see.
This is straight from reddit. I can't take credit for it!
What do you think about the numbers MDR groups and files? I've heard some theories that Lumon has the ability to alter perception, and the numbers are just how the innies perceive something much more complicated. As in, maybe they're really seeing pictures of memories, or something like that. They're clearly either memories or emotions, but we don't yet know why they appear to be groups of numbers, or exactly how it builds the severed personalities, or like you said, why they're good at it and other MDR groups haven't been. iMark said in s1 when he was training Helly that some of the numbers may make her feel uncomfortable or even afraid. Some people have theorized that while they only consciously see numbers, they may actually be looking at horrific memories, or something like that.
I only watched the last few episodes once, but I believe it's explained that numbers are emotions and they're boxed into the four tempers. We learn that Mark is working on building new versions of consciousness for Gemma, and it's important that he's working on her. But what are the other MDR's working on? Not their own outties, not loved ones that we're aware of. So building a random consciousness to be used in the future?
Along this thread, were both Gemma and Mark targeted by Lumon or is Gemma the priority? Why were they / she selected? Bloodwork? Psychological profile? Responding to recruiting material? Again, it's unclear how the rest of MDR aligns with the work Mark and Gemma are doing.
I only watched the last few episodes once, but I believe it's explained that numbers are emotions and they're boxed into the four tempers.
Right, but I'm still not sure how that works. How are a person's emotions mapped into a computer file, and why do the innies (and us) see them as numbers? They have to stare at the numbers until they feel something.....how exactly are emotions being translated to numbers, and why?Yeah, that's clear as mud.
Yeah, that's clear as mud.
I assume the numbers are encryption, but what exactly is encrypted? Specific memories, hypothetical situations, general emotions? And if Lumon has the ability to map an emotion or memory into a file, why do they need humans to modify it? Is there another department building the file and MDR customizing it?
One could assume Mark is building a consciousness for iGemma that has stripped out both the positive and negative emotions of Cold Harbor's subject material. But iMark has no memory of that, oMark does. So, arguably, iMark would be no more efficient at building Cold Harbor than Dylan or Irving. The only reason of importance would be that they're possibly testing the efficacy of severance on Mark and Gemma at the same time, but that testing already occurred with Ms. Casey.
@utee94 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15) I think we're done talking about Severance. Feel free to resume adding the appropriate amount of Longhorn arrogance to the thread :)Thanks.
Finished "Defending Jacob" on Apple last week.
Back from 2020 --- I was unaware of it's existence, but the wife came across it.
Pretty good. It definitely leaves you with some questions, and WTF's.
I hadn't heard of this until just the other day....I mentioned we were watching Presumed Innocent, and Defending Jacob is one of the things it popped up under "you might also enjoy." I think AppleTV will be canceled tomorrow, but next time we cut it on I'll have to remember this.
fwiw, you might enjoy Presumed Innocent, apparently. The algorithm sez so.
I hadn't heard of this until just the other day....I mentioned we were watching Presumed Innocent, and Defending Jacob is one of the things it popped up under "you might also enjoy." I think AppleTV will be canceled tomorrow, but next time we cut it on I'll have to remember this.
fwiw, you might enjoy Presumed Innocent, apparently. The algorithm sez so.
Finished Presumed Innocent last night. A decent watch.
A little too much porn for my tastes, but it had one hell of a twist at then end.
Mrs. DeLonghorn wanted to watch Tombstone Friday night because she hadn't seen it since it came out. I've seen it a few times since then, though it's been years since the last time.
It doesn't hold up to its lofty place in my memory, but plenty of Doc Holliday's lines are still superb. Albeit with the weirdest, fake southern accent ever.
I forgot how many famous people were in that movie.
Hulu had the first season of Andor this month for some reason, maybe a marketing thing by Disney+ to try to promote their service. It expired today but I was just able to catch the final episode last night in time.Yeah Hulu is owned by Disney/Fox, so they'll show Disney and Fox content pretty regularly.
Pretty good, especially for the crap that Disney-StarWars has pumped out. Not amazing, but pretty good. I'd recommend it, if you like the Star Wars universe.
I think a new season came out on D+ last night, but we won't be subscribing for that.
Yeah Hulu is owned by Disney/Fox, so they'll show Disney and Fox content pretty regularly.I believe it's Disney/ABC. I don't think Fox is involved in Hulu.
I watched the first couple of episodes of Andor on Disney+ when it came out but for some reason stopped. I liked it fine, but got sidetracked. Maybe I'll start over now that there's a second season.
I believe it's Disney/ABC. I don't think Fox is involved in Hulu.Disney bought Fox Entertainment in 2019. The deal included 20th Century Fox studio, and the FX networks, but not Fox's news and sports assets. So this is why you see a lot of Fox studio content on Hulu.
Hence with Hulu Live TV they automatically bundle in Disney+ and ESPN+, because those are all (along with ABC) the same entity.
Disney bought Fox Entertainment in 2019. The deal included 20th Century Fox studio, and the FX networks, but not Fox's news and sports assets. So this is why you see a lot of Fox studio content on Hulu.Huh. Good to know. I hadn't realized that they spun out that portion of Fox separate from the Murdoch mother ship.
Disney bought Fox Entertainment in 2019. The deal included 20th Century Fox studio, and the FX networks, but not Fox's news and sports assets. So this is why you see a lot of Fox studio content on Hulu.
In the earliest days of Hulu, or at least the earliest I knew about it, either in 2008 or 2009 I think, Hulu was nothing but an aggregate site to watch network TV shows on demand. You could watch NBC, FOX, ABC, etc. shows with commercials from your laptop and without DVR'ing it first. No original content at all. The draw was two-fold. One, it was a hub for network shows and you could quit navigating to abc.com first to catch up on Modern Family, then to fotwitter.com to catch up on The Simpsons, etc. Two, for whatever reason, its video player was more reliable than the networks' native websites for their own shows. If I wanted to catch up on Lost, half the time abc.com's crap website couldn't render the video. The networks had known issues relating to that. hulu.com was a cleaner, more reliable experience.Maybe CBS?
I want to say there was one broadcast network whose shows were not available on Hulu. If there was, I don't remember which one.
@jgvol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1567) , turns out Apple did not get canceled, so we started Defending Jacob last night. It really has some similarities in the premise to Presumed Innocent starting out. ADA who is tasked with prosecuting something that winds up hitting close to home, for which he should recuse himself, but refuses. Just watched one ep so far, but we liked it and plan on finishing it.
Michelle Dockery is a really good actress imo, and I'm pretty impressed with Chris Evans as well. There's a lot more to him than just Marvel humor and Captain America.
Oh man I love Chris Evans. Thought he was great in Knives Out.