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MrNubbz

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Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
« Reply #210 on: February 10, 2022, 12:55:00 PM »
I could maybe see him in Barfly.  No way in the other two.  But I'd also never buy Donald Sutherland or Christopher Walken as a young beach volleyball playing fighter pilot.

Cruise did an awesome cameo in Tropic Thunder, nowhere close to his typical Hollywood Leading Man roles.  Absolutely stole the show.
Sorry left out Cruise was the greatest bartender also.Sutherland was good in "The Eagle Has Landed" with Michael Caine and Robert Duvall
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« Reply #211 on: February 10, 2022, 12:57:51 PM »
palpatine is back for a third time!!!

have i ever expressed how much i hated that? the prequels have their issues but at least the overall story was sound and coherent. the sequels are just a mess. fun, but a mess.

It was dumb, but so was the corner that Johnson painted Abrams into after the 2nd one.

What's baffling to me is that Disney didn't have a cohesive story arc planned for the trilogy. If they'd managed it as closely as they managed the MCU, they most likely wouldn't have encountered such problems late in the creative process.

Anyway, as you say, they're still fun, and personally I like them much better than Eps 1-3 (which I have always been MUCH kinder toward, than the general public).

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« Reply #212 on: February 10, 2022, 02:56:29 PM »
jurassic world dominion trailer dropped today. excited t see original cast back in action. looks of cool looking (and realistic based on latest evidence) dinos. hope story is as good as original jp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb5ELWi-ekk

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« Reply #213 on: February 10, 2022, 03:16:26 PM »
jurassic world dominion trailer dropped today. excited t see original cast back in action. looks of cool looking (and realistic based on latest evidence) dinos. hope story is as good as original jp.
Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...

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« Reply #214 on: February 10, 2022, 06:17:48 PM »
Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...
sam neill, laura dern, goldblum are all in new movie.

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« Reply #215 on: February 10, 2022, 07:51:27 PM »
It was dumb, but so was the corner that Johnson painted Abrams into after the 2nd one.

What's baffling to me is that Disney didn't have a cohesive story arc planned for the trilogy. If they'd managed it as closely as they managed the MCU, they most likely wouldn't have encountered such problems late in the creative process.

Anyway, as you say, they're still fun, and personally I like them much better than Eps 1-3 (which I have always been MUCH kinder toward, than the general public).
I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.

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« Reply #216 on: February 10, 2022, 10:04:49 PM »
I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.
I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.

Johnson retconned and unceremoniously dumped everything Abrams had started in TFA, and left the story a complete shambles.  I loathed the direction he was trying to take Rey's ancestry and in general he just made a giant mess of everything.  Nobody could have ever completely recovered from that but I think Abrams did better than most anyone else could have.  I'm pretty confident I would have hated a Johnson Episode 9 a great deal, so I'm actually fine with how it turned out.

But the fault doesn't lie with Johnson or Abrams, it's entirely on Disney for failing to create and outline a coherent and cohesive story arc for all three movies, before the first one was ever written.

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« Reply #217 on: February 11, 2022, 10:42:23 AM »
I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.

Johnson retconned and unceremoniously dumped everything Abrams had started in TFA, and left the story a complete shambles.  I loathed the direction he was trying to take Rey's ancestry and in general he just made a giant mess of everything.  Nobody could have ever completely recovered from that but I think Abrams did better than most anyone else could have.  I'm pretty confident I would have hated a Johnson Episode 9 a great deal, so I'm actually fine with how it turned out.

But the fault doesn't lie with Johnson or Abrams, it's entirely on Disney for failing to create and outline a coherent and cohesive story arc for all three movies, before the first one was ever written.

i think you're both right.

tlj was both the best movie of the 3 and also severely out of place among them.

i can live with tfa though it suffers large flaws, i enjoyed tlj but a bit confused why significant things changed in it (rey heritage doesn't matter anymore? complete wasted setup from ep7), but tros was just bonkers bad. like they just said f-it, plot's lost, palps is back and super saiyan, snope was the big puppet at the end of yellow brick road, rey and co find the most ridiculous mcguffin, hux lol, rey develops never before seen super jedi power to heal and uses it on the 1 person that's both constantly trying to kill her and the only 1 that can stop her, sith ghost choir (wtf?), and now object teleportation.

you 100% nailed it, though, with that last bit. unforgivable to not have a basic story arc to build on before the first movie even started being written.

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« Reply #218 on: February 11, 2022, 08:04:19 PM »
Talking about being severely out of place.....dinosaurs in snow?

Stop it.

How do you combat dinosaurs being released into the wild in the modern day?  Wait for the first cold night of winter, lol. 
As effective as a giant asteroid impact.
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« Reply #219 on: February 12, 2022, 11:34:21 AM »
Talking about being severely out of place.....dinosaurs in snow?

Stop it.

How do you combat dinosaurs being released into the wild in the modern day?  Wait for the first cold night of winter, lol. 
As effective as a giant asteroid impact.
there's fast growing evidence of dinos in cold climates. much of australia was within the antarctic circle during the cretaceous. and that region is richly dense with dinos from that time period. likewise, parts of alaska with rich dino fossils were in the arctic circle during the time those dinos were there too. and not just tiny feathery ones, either, though they were smaller (but not small as we would consider them).

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-dinosaurs-thrived-snow-180976435/

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« Reply #220 on: February 12, 2022, 11:54:48 AM »
Well crap, there goes THAT plan to save us when the real dinos come back and attack.

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« Reply #221 on: February 12, 2022, 12:03:12 PM »
Well crap, there goes THAT plan to save us when the real dinos come back and attack.
i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us

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« Reply #222 on: February 12, 2022, 12:07:01 PM »
i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us

Shhhhh, only us smart ones that already have our golden tickets to the giant Space Ark are supposed to know about The Plan.

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« Reply #223 on: February 12, 2022, 12:16:01 PM »
many scientists feel that dinosaurs were hot blooded so them being where it snows isnt that far fetched

as long as they had plenty of food they could have existed in such a climate
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