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FearlessF

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #126 on: January 12, 2021, 03:58:50 PM »
might be there at #7 if 4 or 5 QBs go earlier

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #127 on: January 12, 2021, 04:20:14 PM »
So answer me this:  Who would have won the Heisman if Jaylen Waddle never got hurt?
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #128 on: January 12, 2021, 04:34:02 PM »
Mac Jones - obviously
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #129 on: January 12, 2021, 04:37:03 PM »
Ya know that just might have happened.Good system QB like Colt McCoy - spread it around to the playmakers to do their thing and move the chains
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #130 on: January 12, 2021, 04:38:28 PM »
well, the two WRs split the catches and TDs and add a few more - makes the QB look VERY good
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #131 on: January 12, 2021, 04:45:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 12, 2021, 04:20:14 PM
So answer me this:  Who would have won the Heisman if Jaylen Waddle never got hurt?
Hard to play what if game. I really like Waddle, but Smith is clearly superior receiver. Probably Smith still. Who knows.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #132 on: January 12, 2021, 04:51:35 PM »
Waddle is a legit 4.3 guy who hangs on the ball.Depends on his foot injury obviously
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #133 on: January 12, 2021, 05:25:37 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on January 12, 2021, 04:51:35 PM
Waddle is a legit 4.3 guy who hangs on the ball.Depends on his foot injury obviously
Waddle vs Smith debate just like the Ruggs vs Jeudy. Jeudy was clearly the better wide receiver and football player, Ruggs was just more athletic and freakishly fast. Same thing here. Smith is just better.

Jeudy had a much better rookie year than Ruggs playing with hot garbage at QB. Throw Jeudy on the Raiders with Derek Carr and Gruden calling plays, he breaks over 1,000 yards as a rookie.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2021, 09:05:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 12, 2021, 04:20:14 PM
So answer me this:  Who would have won the Heisman if Jaylen Waddle never got hurt?
Does Waddle keep up his production? Does Smith have the same production? Are Jones' numbers notably better?

It's a solid counterfactual because there is no real answer here.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #135 on: January 12, 2021, 10:08:20 PM »
Oh, I just thought having another 1st round WR opposite him would lead most people to figure Smith's numbers would be normal-good and thus, not Heisman-worthy, especially for a WR.  

I'm just being silly again.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #136 on: January 12, 2021, 10:31:00 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 12, 2021, 10:08:20 PM
Oh, I just thought having another 1st round WR opposite him would lead most people to figure Smith's numbers would be normal-good and thus, not Heisman-worthy, especially for a WR. 

I'm just being silly again.
That’s true, but it’s true for most folks. If Trask has a 1,500-yard rusher, his stats are worse, less chance, yada yada. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #137 on: January 13, 2021, 08:59:36 AM »
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2021, 11:37:44 PM »
Just an FYI:  thanks to Mac Jones, a new single-season passer rating record has been set each of the past 5 years.  Insanity.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #139 on: October 24, 2021, 04:27:05 PM »
I don't remember the top 2 tanking this hard in the past

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