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Topic: Your vote for Hypesman?

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Mdot21

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #140 on: October 24, 2021, 04:30:52 PM »
right now...CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, Kenneth Walker III, or Bijan Robinson. 

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #141 on: October 24, 2021, 07:19:28 PM »
Corral. 

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #142 on: October 24, 2021, 10:55:02 PM »
Odds to win the 2021 Heisman Trophy


ODDS TO WIN 2021 HEISMAN TROPHY (12/11/21)
Player (School-Position)Odds
Bryce Young (Alabama-QB)+185
Matt Corral (Ole Miss-QB)+250
CJ Stroud (Ohio State-QB)+500
Kenny Pickett (Pittsburgh-QB)+1000
Caleb Williams (Oklahoma-QB)+1400
Kenneth Walker III (Michigan State-RB)+1600
Desmond Ridder (Cincinnati-QB)+2500
TreVeyon Henderson (Ohio State-RB)+2500
Bijan Robinson (Texas-RB)+4000
Sam Hartman (Wake Forest-QB)+5000
Brian Robinson (Alabama-RB)+6600
Jerome Ford (Cincinnati-RB)+8000
Sam Howell (UNC-QB)+10000
Jayden Daniels (Arizona State-QB)+10000
Breece Hall (Iowa State-RB)+10000
Casey Thompson (Texas-QB)+10000
Sean Clifford (Penn State-QB)+10000
Malik Willis (Liberty-QB)+10000
Anthony Brown, Jr. (Oregon-QB)+10000
Carson Strong (Nevada-QB)+10000
Drake London (USC-WR)+10000
Cade McNamara (Michigan-QB)+10000
Blake Corum (Michigan-RB)+10000


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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #143 on: October 24, 2021, 10:56:44 PM »
I bet $1000 Kenny Pickett doesnt win the Heisman.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #144 on: October 25, 2021, 07:54:31 PM »
Bryce Young is the first QB in Alabama history to have 350 yards passing and 2 rushing TDs in the same game.

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #145 on: October 25, 2021, 09:48:36 PM »
Bryce Young is the first QB in Alabama history to have 350 yards passing and 2 rushing TDs in the same game.
What a fun, obscure stat.  Has he thrown for 300 yards and 5 rushing TDs in a game yet?
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #146 on: October 25, 2021, 10:52:36 PM »
I bet $1000 Kenny Pickett doesnt win the Heisman.
23 TDs and just 1 INT
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #147 on: October 25, 2021, 10:58:24 PM »
He's no Matt Blundin.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #148 on: October 26, 2021, 07:32:52 AM »
I bet $1000 Kenny Pickett doesnt win the Heisman.
You won’t get very good odds on that

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #149 on: October 27, 2021, 05:47:49 PM »
Don't watch all that much fb anymore so take it with a grain of salt...

I'd be inclined to vote Bijan Robinson, or maybe Matt Corral.  Robinson is great at making something out of nothing and fits the Hypesman bill, if he's not overlooked for being on a lackluster team.  Corral is a pretty fun watch and a great player, the couple of games I've seen him.  

Haven't seen Stroud...I hear he's very good.  Will probably catch some OSU games later this season, might change my mind.  

If Alabama wins out, including vs. UGA in the SECCG, their QB probably wins it.  Hypesman generally seems like a "name player on best team" kinda deal.  I like him, but not as much as the others.  

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« Reply #150 on: October 27, 2021, 05:58:07 PM »
They should rename it the Torretta Trophy.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #151 on: October 27, 2021, 08:59:37 PM »
They should rename it the Torretta Trophy.
How in the F did he even win that? Marshall Faulk got jobbed. If Marshall Faulk had played at a helmet school- that trophy would've been his. 

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #152 on: October 27, 2021, 09:38:06 PM »
I'm not sure why he won it.  Sure, he was the QB on the #1 team, but for whatever reason, voters kind of shat on RBs that year.  If Faulk wasn't your guy (easy schedule), Georgia's Garrison Hearst ran for 1600 yards and 19 TDs.  He was a beast.  Hell, Reggie Brooks of ND averaged 8.0 ypc!!!  

The oddity of that particular season was the utter lack of QBs having a big season.  Florida's Shane Matthews was 2nd in the country in TD passes....with 23.  23!!!!  That's so low!!!  But he threw a ton of INTs and Florida stunk (9-4) that year.  
Charlie Ward was his great, exciting self, but he too, threw a bunch of INTs.  

There were no big-time QBs having a big year.  Plenty had a better rating than Torretta, but most of them were game-managers on run-first teams.  Grbac at Michigan, Graves at Syracuse, those guys.  The list of QBs that year has got to be rare....everyyone had like 20 TD passes, but with 15 INTs.  

The thing that probably put Torretta over the top was his lack of INTs....only 7.  The leader in passing TDs was Jimmy Klingler of Houston, but he committed a grave sin:  he wasn't his brother.  David Klingler was throwing 50 TD passes just 2 years before.  

If 1992 happened today, I think a defensive player or even lineman would win it.  
Look at the OL on the All-American team that year:  Aaron Taylor (the ND one), Shields, Roaf, Kennedy.
Defensively, 2 players finished in the top 10 for Heisman:  LB Marvin Jones of FSU and Miami LB Micheal Barrow.  Plus you had Curry & Copeland from Bama.

I just think the RBs with gaudy stats didn't have enough carries, the QBs didn't throw enough TDs, and a defensive player wasn't something they could wrap their head around yet.  
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #153 on: October 27, 2021, 10:10:14 PM »
Meh, popularity contest of not real import beyond some car commercials.

 

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