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OrangeAfroMan

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Your vote for Hypesman?
« on: December 20, 2020, 04:51:22 PM »
Who ya got?
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 05:10:19 PM »
Off the top of my head I voted for Lawrence.  But they all are pretty deserving except probably Fields.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2020, 05:12:05 PM »
Went Trask
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2020, 05:34:50 PM »
Antwaan Randle El. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2020, 05:45:47 PM »
Well I don’t think Fields belongs in the poll. 

Second after Dabo chastised the world for considering Ohio State even though they didn’t play enough games to prove it, and then in the very next sentence said “if you don’t attach Trevor Lawrence to the Heisman I don’t know what you’ve been watching”, no Trevor.   😂😂😂

I voted for Smith.   My second vote would be Trask. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 06:07:11 PM »
Has to be Smith this year. He’s been unreal. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 06:23:41 PM »
Justin Jefferson, 2019
111-1,540-18
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DaVonta Smith, 2020
98-1,511-17
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One was the #2 WR on his team last year.  The other is getting Heisman love.  
Yes, Smith has done it in 11 games.
But Heisman voting may be one thing I'm never able to understand.  It's half career award or something.  
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Looking at it, okayyyy, we have Trask putting up huge counting numbers.  And Mac Jones is putting up great percentages.  But ummm, we don't know these guys.  They weren't on our Heisman radar in August, so we're going to need a guy we know up there, too.  Why?  Just because.  Okay, this WR is having a big year, he broke the SEC all-time receiving TD record.  He's really good!  Have you seen him return kicks?!?  He was good least year, too!  No, he wasn't a backup like those QBs were.  Yeah, he checks the boxes.  We'll mention Lawrence, but he sat out and is actually more of a dual-threat than we thought.  Yeah, if we had only billed him as such, he'd have gotten more pub...turns out, not a high-volume passer.  
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Am I wrong here?  
I'll bet you a dollar that at least 40% of Heisman voters think Smith was Alabama's great return man from last year (it was Waddle).  
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 06:31:57 PM »
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2020, 06:40:52 PM »
The last 10 years; 1st-place Heisman votes for WRs.
2010:  1 - Justin Blackmon, Ok.St. (111-1782-20 TD)
2011:  none
2012:  19 - Marquis Lee, USC (118-1721-14 TD)
and     6 - Tavon Austin, WV (114- 1289- 12 TD)***
2013:  none
2014:  49 - Amari Cooper, Alabama (124-1727-16 TD)
2015:  none
2016:  7 - Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma (80-1524-17 TD)
2017:  none
2018:  none
2019:  none....wow, WRs must suck in odd-numbered years, huh?
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***Austin's teammate, Stedman Bailey, had 114-1622-25 TD and didn't get a vote
Return TDs for above WRs:
0 - Blackmon
1 - Lee
2 - Austin
0 - Cooper
1 - Westbrook
2 - Smith
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The Heisman winner gets around 500+ first place votes.  What has Smith done that warrants more than the 10% share Cooper was able to get?  I truly believe it's because none of the preseason favorites are in it.  I think it's that simple.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2020, 06:49:59 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 20, 2020, 06:23:41 PM
Justin Jefferson, 2019
111-1,540-18
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DaVonta Smith, 2020
98-1,511-17
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So, my friend. They don't vote on the thing after the bowls. They vote before the bowls. And before the bowls, here's Jefferson's line.

88-1207-12 in two more games.

So this might be a hint as to why they're seen differently. FWIW, the No. 1 was 73-1,498-18, again in two more games.

I think its because no QB or RB has taken the narrative reins and there's no super high-end defender. Cooper had a good case, but got crowded out by two very super finalists. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2020, 07:28:45 PM »
Yeah, I know there's plenty of variables.  I just don't like the randomness of it.  Smith is great, he's having a great season, but it seems almost arbitrary that he's getting love and some absolute dominant baller WRs have been largely ignored.  It's just lame.
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Thank you for the correction, I totally blew that.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2020, 07:46:50 PM »
Smith.  Easily
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2020, 08:19:44 PM »
DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2020, 08:24:50 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2020, 07:46:50 PM
Smith.  Easily
Didn't Bama actually lose their top receiver earlier in the season and this kid emerged?
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