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Topic: Your vote for Hypesman?

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FearlessF

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #154 on: October 27, 2021, 10:11:47 PM »
yup, real knowledgeable fans know it's BS
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #155 on: October 27, 2021, 11:26:25 PM »
who was the worst player to ever win one? 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #156 on: October 28, 2021, 02:17:13 AM »
Gotta be Troy Smith, right?  :88:
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #157 on: October 28, 2021, 06:55:45 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2021, 11:26:25 PM
who was the worst player to ever win one?
Tough choice. Names that come to mind:

Chris Wienke, Sam Bradford, Jameis Winston Marcus Mariotta , Cam Newton, Danny Wuerful. 
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #158 on: October 28, 2021, 06:59:37 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 28, 2021, 02:17:13 AM
Gotta be Troy Smith, right?  :88:
I judge them on how well they do in the NFL.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #159 on: October 28, 2021, 02:01:41 PM »
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #160 on: October 28, 2021, 03:56:40 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2021, 11:26:25 PM
who was the worst player to ever win one?
Dangerous Doug Flutie

looked more like a kicker
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #161 on: October 28, 2021, 09:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 28, 2021, 06:55:45 AM
Tough choice. Names that come to mind:

Chris Wienke, Sam Bradford, Jameis Winston Marcus Mariotta , Cam Newton, Danny Wuerful.
Weinke is the only one of those who deserves to be on the list.  The rest were absolutely worthy.

There are some weird ones before I was watching, so I can't judge, but I'd say in my time following college football it's Jason White by a landslide.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #162 on: October 28, 2021, 10:00:46 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 28, 2021, 06:59:37 AM
I judge them on how well they do in the NFL.
WHY I OUGHTA......
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #163 on: October 28, 2021, 10:07:59 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2021, 11:26:25 PM
who was the worst player to ever win one?
Paul Hornug.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #164 on: October 28, 2021, 10:18:49 PM »
The first famous bad Heisman vote was Paul Hornung in 1956.  The fabled Irish went 2-8 that year, with Hornung throwing for 3 TD and 13 INTs, while averaging 4.5 yards per carry.
Syracuse RB Jimmy Brown, Stanford QB John Brodie, and about a dozen other players have a better claim to the Heisman that year.
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Archie Griffin's 2nd Heisman was BS, imo.  It was objectively a big downturn from his 1st Heisman season, and several other RBs at P5 teams had much better seasons.
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In my living memory, Ty Detmer's Heisman was BS, in 1990.  If you wanted a big-numbers G5 QB, Klingler's numbers were superior.  If you valued excitement, Rocket Ismail finished 2nd, but for all his flash, he only scored 6 total TDs.  
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People seem to have an issue with Chris Weinke, but who are you putting ahead of him?  Heupel and Brees (2nd and 3rd) had worse years than him.  Tomlinson had a great season vs a high school schedule.  Honestly, 5th-place NW RB Damien Anderson probably has the best case.
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I would've taken Ki-Jana Carter over Salaam in '94.
Rex Grossman would have easily won in 2001 if he hadn't been a sophomore.  
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Jason White won the Heisman because his closest competition was a WR (Fitzgerald) and voters were idiotic sheep.  
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #165 on: October 28, 2021, 10:20:09 PM »
I hate voting for QBs because of how slated the rules/game is in favor of them now.  But theis year, meh?  If Walker is still leading the nation in rushing after getting through the Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State defenses behind a mediocre line, I may actually say he's deserving.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #166 on: October 28, 2021, 10:25:56 PM »
Not relevant to anything but I think a lot of Ki-jana Carter when I see TreVeyon Henderson for OSU. That sort of tough to tackle while hitting full speed thing.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #167 on: October 28, 2021, 11:02:08 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 28, 2021, 10:18:49 PM

In my living memory, Ty Detmer's Heisman was BS, in 1990.  If you wanted a big-numbers G5 QB, Klingler's numbers were superior.  If you valued excitement, Rocket Ismail finished 2nd, but for all his flash, he only scored 6 total TDs. 

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