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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2020, 10:44:46 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 20, 2020, 09:50:37 PM
I'm not clear on how cfbstats computes qb rating, but Mac Jones has the highest recorded on their site.
The best-ever pass rating has increased every year for the past 5 years.  Literally.  It's stupid.  
The highest-rated season pre-2000 was Shaun King's 1998 season at Tulane.  The highest P5 going back was Wuerffel's non-Heisman 1995 season.  
Check out the "best ever" single-season QB rating lineage:
1964 - Jerry Rhome, Tulsa (172.6)
26 years later
1980 - Jim McMahon, BYU (176.9)
15 years later
1995 - Danny Wuerffel, Florida (178.4)
3 years later
1998 - Shaun King, Tulane (178.8)
6 years later
2004 - Stefan Lefors, Louisville (181.7)
2 years later
2006 - Colt Brennan, Hawai'i (186.0)
5 years later
2011 - Russell Wilson, Wisconsin (191.8) - Robert Griffin III broke it, too
5 years later
2016 - Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma (196.4)
2017 - Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma (198.9) 
2018 - Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama (199.4) - Kyler Murray broke it, too
2019 - Joe Burrow, LSU (202.0)
2020 - Mac Jones, Alabama (202.3) - with 1-2 games to go
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2020, 10:46:36 PM »
In 2020, 8 of the top 20 single-season pass ratings of all time were produced.
1st - Jones
7th - Wilson, BYU
8th - Eleby, WKU
9th - Crum, Kent St
13th - Trask, Florida
15th - McCall, Coastal Carolina
19th - Howell, UNC
20th - Corral, Ole Miss


This is getting sideways.  It's not football.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2020, 11:53:48 PM »
I think Kirk Cousins is like #7 all time in NFL passer rating
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2020, 11:59:08 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2020, 11:53:48 PM
I think Kirk Cousins is like #7 all time in NFL passer rating
Looked it up, #6.  Joe Montana and Steve Young are the only two in the top 35 to not play in the 2000s.

IIRC it has to do with completion percentage being way too highly valued in the formula.

Blake Bottles is above Bart Start and John Elway
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2020, 12:20:12 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2020, 11:59:08 PM
Looked it up, #6.  Joe Montana and Steve Young are the only two in the top 35 to not play in the 2000s.

IIRC it has to do with completion percentage being way too highly valued in the formula.

Blake Bottles is above Bart Start and John Elway

There are old people in Wisconsin who still worship Bart Starr.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2020, 09:50:10 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2020, 11:59:08 PM
Looked it up, #6.  Joe Montana and Steve Young are the only two in the top 35 to not play in the 2000s.

IIRC it has to do with completion percentage being way too highly valued in the formula.

Blake Bottles is above Bart Start and John Elway

Probably true, though YPA is a big part too.

What's interesting is with skill development and honestly probably less lumpy footballs, people figured out how screens became extended run game. It's just West Coast Offense principals pushed to the logical end, but also includes plenty of deep stuff (well, in college, less so in the NFL). 

I wonder if back then, people watched what Joe and Steve were doing and thought "That's not real football"
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2020, 01:51:04 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on December 21, 2020, 12:20:12 AM
There are old people in Wisconsin who still worship Bart Starr.
Bart Starr sounds like a fake ass male pornstar name. Lol.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2020, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 20, 2020, 11:53:48 PM
I think Kirk Cousins is like #7 all time in NFL passer rating
NFL passer rating has to be the weirdest stat ever. Does anyone even know how it’s calculated?
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2020, 01:58:03 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:46 PM
NFL passer rating has to be the weirdest stat ever. Does anyone even know how it’s calculated?
Here you go: http://www.primecomputing.com/formula.htm

I can't vouch for whether that's accurate, so maybe try a player or two and see if it lines up...
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2020, 03:26:41 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:46 PM
NFL passer rating has to be the weirdest stat ever. Does anyone even know how it’s calculated?
Yeah, any forumula that tops out at 158.3 has some 'splainin' to do.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2020, 05:08:03 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:04 PM
Bart Starr sounds like a fake ass male pornstar name. Lol.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2020, 06:30:33 PM »
Trask had 11 more passing TDs than anyone else, in 11 games.  That's nuts.  
Mac Jones averaged 11.4 yards per ATTEMPT.  Imagine being an OC and you're averaging over 11 yards every pass play call.  Sick.
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UNC had the 4th and 6th-leading rushers in the country this year.  One averaged 8.0 ypc and the other, 7.3.  WOW.  
Clemson's Travis Etienne had his first mortal season, averaging only 5.6 ypc this year.  
OSU's Trey Sermon had 344 rushing yards before the B1G CG.  He rushed for 331 in that game.
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DeVonta Smith had 7 games of over 100 yards.....and went over 144 yards in each of those.  
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5 kickers didn't miss a FG attempt this season
Arkansas wound up with 3 of the top 8 tacklers in the country.  
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2020, 08:13:10 PM »
well, the SEC didn't seem to be the solid defensive group as seasons past
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2020, 08:26:14 PM »
Yes, that would make this year an exception, wouldn't it?
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