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Topic: Your vote for Hypesman?

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2021, 08:53:13 PM »
Now can we dial up the proverbial “ Heisman Jinx “ please.  
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2021, 08:56:54 PM »
absolutely
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2021, 09:21:02 PM »
Now can we dial up the proverbial “ Heisman Jinx “ please. 
Not unless Antoine Winfield or Shawn Springs is walking through that door....
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“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2021, 09:23:09 PM »
Not unless Antoine Winfield or Shawn Springs is walking through that door....
I don’t think they could even cover him.  
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2021, 09:27:54 PM »
Springs was so good, he was an AA, B10 defensive POY, etc without having an INT.  That's some mad respect.
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2021, 10:05:15 PM »
Springs was so good, he was an AA, B10 defensive POY, etc without having an INT.  That's some mad respect.
Can’t pick the zero balls thrown your way.

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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2021, 10:32:39 PM »
Antoine Winfield was better at baiting
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Re: Your vote for Hypesman?
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2021, 10:36:16 PM »
Antoine Winfield was better at baiting
He only had three career, zero the year he won the Thorpe.

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« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2021, 11:11:43 PM »
Congrats to Smith - great player had a great season.
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The fact that Lawrence finished 2nd makes me think a lot of the voters still consider the Heisman to be a career award, though.  
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« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2021, 11:35:04 PM »
Which makes it even crazier that Woodson had 7 during his Heisman year

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« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2021, 11:50:14 PM »
Yeah, that's just from having an overall great defense and a NC-to-be team making opponents play catch-up.  And running on them wasn't fun, either.
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« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2021, 12:20:02 AM »
Down-ballot Heisman voting is a fun (crazy) study:
Going back to 1980 to now.....
1980:More people thought QB Neil Lomax of Portland State should win the Heisman than did Anthony Carter and Kenny Easley COMBINED.
1981:  3 people thought RB Rich Diana of Yale should win it over Marcus Allen or Herschel Walker, while rushing for fewer carries, yards, ypc, and TDs (vs Yale's schedule)
1982:  Dan Marino got 1 first-place vote in a season he threw 17 TDs and 23 INTs......also, Anthony Carter had his best Heisman showing (4th) in perhaps his worst season as a starter
1983:  Out of about 700 voters, only 6 thought the 'best' OL should win the Heisman (Fralic).  Only 7 thought the award should go to the 'best' DB (Hoage)
1984:  Fralic must have fallen off, as his support to win the Heisman fell to 1 single voter.
1985:  Sports Illustrated put their pseudo ballot on its cover, advocating for RB Joe Dudek of Plymouth State over Bo Jackson or Chuck Long.  Dudek would finish 9th, with 12 first-place votes (11 more than Thurman Thomas).
1986:  Three LBs appear in the top 10 of voting!  WTF??  9 thought Bosworth should win the Heisman, 3 chose Cornelius Bennett, and 5 picked Spielman....Auburn RB Brent Fullwood finished with just 4 first-place votes after a 1400 yard season @ 8.3 ypc, probably because he wasn't Bo.
1987:  The only FR player to finish in the top 10 since Herschel, Florida RB Emmitt Smith gets 2 first-place votes.
1988:  The news here isn't that Okie State RB Barry Sanders won, it's that 156 voters thought someone else should have won it over him....Alabama LB Derrick Thomas gets 3 first-place votes for a season with 27 sacks (unofficially)...and FSU CB Deion Sanders received zero first-place votes.
1989:  72 voters wanted to give ND QB Tony Rice the Heisman for a 2 TD pass, 9 INT season....MSU LB Percy Snow had 7 first-place votes, 4 more than ND WR Raghib Ismail, who did not have a single receiving TD, yet finished 10th in the voting.
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That's a lot for now, I can do another decade if anyone cares to read it. 
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

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