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« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2020, 05:46:44 PM »
pickles and fries on the side

pickle relish?  terrible
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« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2020, 05:58:35 PM »
nothing wrong with a little sweet pickle relish on a hotdog 
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« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2020, 06:28:32 PM »
Might as well find two unless you want it open-faced.

Speaking of which, is an open-faced sandwich really a sandwich? Seems to be missing one of the critical factors of the definition ("between two pieces of bread").
Open faced sandwich is to sandwich as deep dish pizza is to pizza?

(I only experience open-faced sandwiches one way, which is having freshly carved roast beef or turkey tossed atop bread and smothered in gravy, which is a good way to calorie bomb)

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« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2020, 06:32:08 PM »
Open faced sandwich is to sandwich as deep dish pizza is to pizza?

(I only experience open-faced sandwiches one way, which is having freshly carved roast beef or turkey tossed atop bread and smothered in gravy, which is a good way to calorie bomb)
Yes and no...

I classify deep dish as a different dish to "pizza", but based on the simple definition, it's still pizza.

I would put it this way:

Open faced sandwich is to sandwich as calzone is to pizza.

Calzones are basically a pizza turnover. Open faced sandwiches use sandwich ingredients but it's not "between" the bread. Whereas a calzone is basically a pizza with some dough stretched around the side and over the top. 

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« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2020, 06:51:38 PM »
I'm not suggesting that a hot dog or hamburger don't potentially, technically fall into subsets of a broader group called sandwiches.

However, if nobody ever refers to a hot dog as a sandwich, can we really say that it's a sandwich?

People DO refer to Bugattis as cars.

But I've not once ever seen someone order a sandwich and receive a hot dog, nor heard someone pronounce "I think I'd like to have a sandwich for lunch" and then order a hot dog. 

I did however work with a guy at our BBQ restaurant, a dude who was of Mexican-American descent, who brought tacos made by his mama for lunch everyday.  When he was ready for lunch, he'd say, "Okay, it's time for my sandwich, I'll be back in a few." 

So who knows?
I was going to repeat what I think I read a long time ago--that "taco" is Spanish for "sandwich."

But an English-Spanish translation page provides "emparedado" as the proper Spanish noun.

I also was going to say that a hot dog is not a sandwich because it does not use two pieces of bread.  But then neither do a lot of subs/heroes/hoagies, and they are sandwiches.

Still, in common usage, hot dogs are hot dogs, hamburgers are hamburgers, and sandwiches are sandwiches.

Speaking of hamburgers, their origin is somewhat in dispute.  Part of the problem is whether or not a ground-beef patty between two slices of bread qualifies as a hamburger.  For me, it does not.  Growing up, I would have called one of those a ground-beef sandwich.

If a hamburger is a ground-beef patty between two halves of a bun, then this is the best claim to have been the first, per the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge:

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The family of Oscar Weber Bilby claim the first-known hamburger on a bun was served on July 4, 1891 on Grandpa Oscar's farm [outside Tulsa]. The bun was a yeast bun. In 1995, Governor Frank Keating proclaimed that the first true hamburger on a bun was created and consumed in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1891, calling Tulsa, "The Real Birthplace of the Hamburger."
Earlier claims all seem to be about a patty between two slices of bread.
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« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2020, 06:59:46 PM »
If it has bread instead of a bun, and cheese on it, around here we'd call it a patty melt.

I have no idea when that came into the vernacular, nor how widespread it is, though.

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« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2020, 07:02:16 PM »
Lots of places claim the hamburger,New Haven,Conn but that was 1900.In Akron Ohio and Outagamie County Fair Wisc.both claim it in 1885

*https://whatscookingamerica.net/History/HamburgerHistory.htm*
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« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2020, 07:54:44 PM »
Not really talking about definitions in a dictionary, more like, what do each of us consider it to be?

If someone has a bag of fast food, and pulls out a wrapped product and says to you "Wow, take a look at this freaking sandwich!"-- are you expecting to see a hot dog?  Hamburger?  Or more like a ham on rye or a reuben or something?
my grandfather cornsidered a hamburger a sammich

my father didn't, neither do I.
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« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2020, 08:00:22 PM »
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« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2020, 08:07:50 PM »
What?

They can't be FROM Wisconsin. No way.
probably imports from Texas
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« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2020, 08:10:18 PM »
Open faced sandwich is to sandwich as deep dish pizza is to pizza?

(I only experience open-faced sandwiches one way, which is having freshly carved roast beef or turkey tossed atop bread and smothered in gravy, which is a good way to calorie bomb)
these are called a "hot beef" or a "hot turkey"
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« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2020, 08:25:17 PM »
nothing wrong with a little sweet pickle relish on a hotdog
This probably explains all of our differences, lol.  Sweet pickles and relish are quite possibly the nastiest thing I've ever tasted.
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« Reply #166 on: November 03, 2020, 08:28:01 PM »
Open faced sandwich is to sandwich as deep dish pizza is to pizza?

(I only experience open-faced sandwiches one way, which is having freshly carved roast beef or turkey tossed atop bread and smothered in gravy, which is a good way to calorie bomb)
What do you consider daily calorie bombs?
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« Reply #167 on: November 03, 2020, 08:40:46 PM »
these are called a "hot beef" or a "hot turkey"
They’re delightful 

 

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