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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3010 on: February 23, 2024, 06:51:21 AM »
Agreed. 

The oddest thing about it all is that through it all, the Japanese kept clinging to their "Decisive Battle" doctrine and waiting for the decisive naval battle which they thought would have to come eventually.  What they failed to realize was that the Guadalcanal campaign WAS the decisive battle.  Midway was important in that it SEVERELY curtailed the offensive punch of the IJN, but the decisive battle was Guadalcanal which turned into war by attrition which Japan couldn't hope to win against an enemy with 2x their population and 10x their industrial capacity.  The US simply bled the Japanese dry. 

After Pearl Harbor and the naval battles of 1942 there was something of a lull at least in terms of major fleet-vs-fleet naval battles and there wasn't another one until the Battle of the Philippine Sea in June of 1944.  In the battles of 1942 the IJN had been a worth adversary to the USN but by 1944 they were laughably outclassed.  They had lost many trained pilots
Of the IJN forces lost at Midway the air crews/pilots was catastrophic. Evidently they did not have an efficient system of training those crews enmasse specially after such a large shocking loss. Their superiority thinking at least among the top yes man didn't think it possible and therefor didn't plan on it - save Yamamoto. Their brass in fact hid that defeat from the public and even much of the military.For moral and ego reasons,but that didn't keep the rank and file from talking as later was discovered and discussed in personal notes/journals.They weren't buying the Bushido Code bullshit the Emporer's lackey's were selling as they were there and saw in person what Nimitz's Navy had in store
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3011 on: February 23, 2024, 07:38:55 AM »
Japan had a major problem with getting fuel.  They couldn't train pilots in part because they had to send what fuel they had to the ships and carriers and China.  The war really started because of petroleum.

Several times, Japanese ships would sortee using unrefined petroleum which is a disaster in the making if they take damage.  Their main objective was the oil fields in SE Asia, but these turned out to be not as productive as they had hoped, and they couldn't refine the oil on site and had to ship it to Japan.  This is why they needed the Phillipines, and why they attacked Pearl Harbor.

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« Reply #3012 on: February 23, 2024, 03:48:06 PM »
Micajah Clark Dyer - Georgia's 1874 Pioneer Aviator
Micajah Clark Dyer - Georgia's 1874 Pioneer Aviator

Micajah Clark Dyer (1822-1891) was a pioneer aviator. He invented a flying machine for which he received Patent No. 154,654 on Sept. 1, 1874, titled “Apparatus for Navigating the Air.” It was placed in Class 244 for Aeronautics and Astronautics, and in Subclass 28 for Airships with Beating Wings Sustained. At that time, designs for manned flight were just beginning to make the transition from balloons and gliders to powered, heavier-than-air craft. His design is a very early example representing that transition. Clark, as he was called, married the buoyant power of a balloon with navigational controls for flight.
Blairsville, Union County, Georgia, where the invention and flights took place, and its surrounding counties didn’t have newspapers at that time, but the story of Clark’s invention was reported in dozens of newspapers in other towns across the U.S., perhaps also in foreign countries since efforts were underway all over the world at the time to build a machine that could fly.
Several neighbors, including Johnny Wimpey, Jim Lance and Herschel Dyer, witnessed Clark’s flights off Rattlesnake Mountain in the Choestoe Community of Union County in years about 1875 to 1885. He is buried in the Old Choestoe Baptist Church Cemetery, Blairsville, Ga.
A website, [color=var(--outline-link-color-default)]https://micajahclarkdyer.blogspot.com/[/iurl], has been maintained since 2004 to acquaint people with Clark’s accomplishments.[/font][/size][/color]



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« Reply #3013 on: February 23, 2024, 03:50:07 PM »

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« Reply #3014 on: February 23, 2024, 04:15:58 PM »


Real Mexican cuisine circa 1970.

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« Reply #3015 on: Today at 11:05:48 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Battle of Los Angeles (1942)
The "Battle of Los Angeles" is the name given by contemporary sources to the imaginary enemy attack and subsequent anti-aircraft artillery barrage that took place over Los Angeles, California, just months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Reports of an imminent strike on the city led to the sounding of air raid sirens, the imposition of a blackout, and the firing of 1,400 shells at supposed Japanese aircraft, killing several US civilians.
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« Reply #3016 on: Today at 11:47:58 AM »
I loved that movie.

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« Reply #3017 on: Today at 11:51:45 AM »
me too

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