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Topic: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game

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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #168 on: October 22, 2018, 03:54:46 PM »
You bring up a good point on Dantonio having to be be better than the other bunch. He is a better developer of talent than the other three. Motivator too. But, you need Assistant's that help support it all. MD might be lagging a bit in that area for the first time in forever. Loyalty can be the death of many Head Coaches. Urban paid a dear price this last offseason. It has hampered Harbaugh as noted. Thankfully the O-Line change finally happened. 

Sidenote, I follow the offensive coaching staff at Michigan State very closely. Brad Salem recruited and coached a family member of mine at his last stop. I am genuinely intrigued with his career path and success with the QB's. I will be curious to see where he lands in any shakeup.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #169 on: October 22, 2018, 04:50:52 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 22, 2018, 02:02:33 PM
I think your aim is a little off on which coach is still whining.

And FTR, I said pregame I had no problem with anything Devin Bush did, or anything that happened pregame
no doubt.  Simple factual question:  who started whining after the game?  Answer- Booger eater, just like always.  Whining about the refs or whining about the other team...seems like it never stops with him.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #170 on: October 22, 2018, 05:51:26 PM »
Question:

Why is it Warner and not Bollman getting the blast? I'm admitting my ignorance here, but is there an indication Warner is the main guy?
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #171 on: October 22, 2018, 06:02:45 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
Question:

Why is it Warner and not Bollman getting the blast? I'm admitting my ignorance here, but is there an indication Warner is the main guy?
I'd be good with both of them gone, but Warner calls the plays.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #172 on: October 22, 2018, 06:37:30 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 22, 2018, 04:50:52 PM
no doubt.  Simple factual question:  who started whining after the game?  Answer- Booger eater, just like always.  Whining about the refs or whining about the other team...seems like it never stops with him.
I always find it juvenile when grown adults throw out childish nicknames for coaches or schools, Michigan fans included. It cheapens all of what follows. It’s something  you see with frequency in the Twitter sphere and ESPN, but not often here.
It also must be quite the paradox for an Ohio State fan to critique a coaches press conferences. Glass houses and all. On the other hand who better to critique, given Urban Meyer’s run of failed offseason press conferences and statements, each time clarifying the previous one’s “misstatements.”
There has been a lot of back and forth in this Michigan and Michigan State rivalry between coaches and players. It’s what i would expect of a rivalry. The most agitated party appears to be some Ohio State fans. 
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #173 on: October 22, 2018, 07:02:22 PM »
Can I whine about the whiner whining about the whiner?
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #174 on: October 22, 2018, 07:27:32 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 22, 2018, 06:02:45 PM
I'd be good with both of them gone, but Warner calls the plays.
Ahh, makes sense. 
I forgot Treadwell had been that good. Give him the job. Enos was interesting for a year or two, but then Arky went south. 
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #175 on: October 22, 2018, 07:32:44 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2018, 07:27:32 PM
Ahh, makes sense.
I forgot Treadwell had been that good. Give him the job. Enos was interesting for a year or two, but then Arky went south.
well Enos was at Michigan for about 30 minutes then bolted for Alabama. Alabama's offense looks the best it ever has. Enos might be a name to watch for bigger jobs in the future if Alabama/Tua keep playing like this. And I see no reason why to think they won't keep smashing offensive records.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #176 on: October 22, 2018, 07:42:33 PM »
Quote from: HailHailMSP on October 22, 2018, 06:37:30 PM
I always find it juvenile when grown adults throw out childish nicknames for coaches or schools, Michigan fans included. It cheapens all of what follows. It’s something  you see with frequency in the Twitter sphere and ESPN, but not often here.
It also must be quite the paradox for an Ohio State fan to critique a coaches press conferences. Glass houses and all. On the other hand who better to critique, given Urban Meyer’s run of failed offseason press conferences and statements, each time clarifying the previous one’s “misstatements.”
There has been a lot of back and forth in this Michigan and Michigan State rivalry between coaches and players. It’s what i would expect of a rivalry. The most agitated party appears to be some Ohio State fans.
Well I am glad you feel that way. UM fans are the kings of juvenile nicknames.
But I find your response odd..in a thread where people are debating Harbooger and Dantonio, you feel the need to inject Meyer??
Have at it.  You can’t say anything about him that has not been said. It’s well documented that he is a horrible coach, the words biggest liar, a big phony, etc etc.
But I can’t remember a single case since he was at OSU where he whined about the other team or the officiating. The Michigan coach just can’t help himself, he can’t even take the high road after a big win.  But go ahead, blame it on Dantonio or Meyer or Ohio State fans.  
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #177 on: October 22, 2018, 07:55:29 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 22, 2018, 07:42:33 PM
Well I am glad you feel that way. UM fans are the kings of juvenile nicknames.
But I find your response odd..in a thread where people are debating Harbooger and Dantonio, you feel the need to inject Meyer??
Have at it.  You can’t say anything about him that has not been said. It’s well documented that he is a horrible coach, the words biggest liar, a big phony, etc etc.
But I can’t remember a single case since he was at OSU where he whined about the other team or the officiating. The Michigan coach just can’t help himself, he can’t even take the high road after a big win.  But go ahead, blame it on Dantonio or Meyer or Ohio State fans.  
you're joking right?
Guy whined about too many camera men on the sideline after a win. Guy whined in front of the national media to get his Florida team in to the BCS title the year the Gators smoked Ohio State.
Dantonio is a complete asshole. I have no problem with his attitude/behavior. And I have no problem with Harbaugh calling him out. Most of these top coaches- newsflash: they are assholes. You don't become a great football coach being Mr. Rogers- hey everybody let's hold hands and sing songs.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #178 on: October 22, 2018, 07:59:11 PM »
Enos was never OC at MSU.  Rumors are him and MD don't get along anyway, so I think that ship has sailed.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #179 on: October 22, 2018, 08:10:43 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on October 22, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
you're joking right?
Guy whined about too many camera men on the sideline after a win. Guy whined in front of the national media to get his Florida team in to the BCS title the year the Gators smoked Ohio State.
Dantonio is a complete asshole. I have no problem with his attitude/behavior. And I have no problem with Harbaugh calling him out. Most of these top coaches- newsflash: they are assholes. You don't become a great football coach being Mr. Rogers- hey everybody let's hold hands and sing songs.
I clarified about Mira only since he’s been at OSU. When he was told how Barrett got injured because of too many cameramen on the sideline all he said was we need to look into that. Hardly whining. He doesn’t cry after a loss like hardball does and complain about the officiating. But we do agree that most successful head coaches are assholes. I would probably debate you on Dantonio who I think has more class than most coaches combined but that’s just me
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #180 on: October 22, 2018, 09:30:44 PM »
People grouping together and hating all Michigan fans again. Must mean Michigan is good again. 
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #181 on: October 22, 2018, 09:48:11 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 22, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
Granted I'm surprised they were able to still play after taking such a vicious "clothesline" following "an orchestrated stormstrooper "march."
Well ... storm troopers are mostly famous for their incompetence, right?
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