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This is pretty widely available online. I remember hearing about it on the news or in a presser too.


“I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx.

“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

“The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

Which is wrong imo. 

He merely notes that the Bible indicates it is wrong to tempt God.  It's part of the canon in effect.  If one if a Christian, it applies, unless you have an alternate Bible.  If you are not a Christian, it only applies when discussing the beliefs of Christianity.

I think it legitimate to use the religious text to validate what a belief is about that specific religion for adherents.

If we discussed what other religions believe, we'd resort to their texts and what their religious leaders have to say about it.  I don't know how else one could do it.

Thank you.  You saved me another rant that would have violated Badge's guidance.

Which is wrong imo.

If you have underlying issues but are then hit by a car, what's the cause of death?

I'm down with that.
Does that guidance include posts designed to make religious people look like idiots?

I'd say, yes.  Baiting is no different than discussing.

But I'd also say, just don't take the bait.  Nobody on this message board is going to change someone else's mind about religion.

I'll quote Kenny Rogers and say, "It don't mean you're weak, if you turn the other cheek."

Then he's a stupid ding-dong.

If he wanted to expose some kind of truth, he's actually expose it. He'd post detail. He's actually know that there wasn't a widely available anti-body test when he tweeted that.

Unless of course he needed the job,I'd imagine he's full of it as CD pointed out an ME wouldn't throw his career out the window.Unless he was told(for funding puposes,perhaps) that the COD was virus related - not out of the realm

I'm down with that.
Does that guidance include posts designed to make religious people look like idiots?

YES.

This is pretty widely available online. I remember hearing about it on the news or in a presser too.


“I think in this country, we’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality,” said Dr. Birx.

“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem. Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

“The intent is if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

So suicides and car accidents would be out, if we're talking about the bolded part. 

A follow from Fauci: "No, I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die — they’re going to say, “Cause of death: heart attack.”  I — I cannot see that — that happening.  So I don’t think it’s going to be a problem."

In the end, this seems like a technicality that we're sort of blowing into something kind of big for the sake of some slight sensationalism. I'm going to assume the implied context because these are brass tacks people who probably want things generally correct. 

I mean, lets put it this way. You're a man at retirement age. Between you and your wife, I'm betting someone has some lingering thing that makes you more susceptible. We could argue that if you get it and the worse were to happen, it was the fault of the chronic thing you've been managing not the new thing you got that exacerbated it.