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utee94

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1540 on: April 08, 2020, 04:27:38 PM »
Heh!  As you know, eventually, Tommy didn't turn the other cheek.
You just let me know when you see the Gatlin boys assaulting Becky, and I'll be right there next to you throwing punches. 

But this ain't that. ;)



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1541 on: April 08, 2020, 04:29:22 PM »
The only downside I see to our way of counting COVID-19 deaths is that it makes us look as if we have a bigger problem than European countries who are counting differently do.

And at some future point in the debate, we can expect someone to advocate this or that domestic policy based on the "fact" that this or that country had a slightly lower death rate than we did.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1542 on: April 08, 2020, 04:33:39 PM »
I wonder if China funds the World Court too.
the ICJ is fully funded by the UN member states. So yes, China funds that court as well as the US and every other UN member state.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1544 on: April 08, 2020, 04:38:07 PM »
Unless of course he needed the job,I'd imagine he's full of it as CD pointed out an ME wouldn't throw his career out the window.Unless he was told(for funding puposes,perhaps) that the COD was virus related - not out of the realm
I fall back to the stock market being imaginary thing.

There is just about no reason to believe this faceless twitter person, other than it sounds interesting. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1545 on: April 08, 2020, 04:43:53 PM »
I mean, lets put it this way. You're a man at retirement age. Between you and your wife, I'm betting someone has some lingering thing that makes you more susceptible. We could argue that if you get it and the worse were to happen, it was the fault of the chronic thing you've been managing not the new thing you got that exacerbated it.
If that were me you're talking about, I'd say that the virus got me. I do have some mild conditions. I could lose a few pounds. I've had bronchitis and I smoke cigars. But, I manage and I can walk for hours and climb steps and all that. I work out. 

If anything is going to kill me with this thing, it would be the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1546 on: April 08, 2020, 04:44:18 PM »
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Why the hell doesn't twitter ban CCP officials? How does this motherf'er have a blue check mark next to his name when twitter is banned in China? Twitter and it's CEO are a joke.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1547 on: April 08, 2020, 04:52:10 PM »
In actual Corona/COVID news, out of San Francisco, there's a Stanford Medical study being performed to determine if the novel coronavirus was present in California back in Fall 2019.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Study-investigates-if-COVID-19-came-to-Calif-in-15187085.php

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The hypothesis that COVID-19 first started spreading in California in the fall of 2019 is one explanation for the state's lower than expected case numbers.

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"Something is going on that we haven't quite found out yet," said Victor Davis Hanson a senior fellow with Stanford's Hoover Institute.

Hanson said he thinks it is possible COVID-19 has been spreading among Californians since the fall when doctors reported an early flu season in the state. During that same time, California was welcoming as many as 8,000 Chinese nationals daily into our airports. Some of those visitors even arriving on direct flights from Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in China.

"When you add it all up it would be naïve to think that California did not have some exposure," said Hanson.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1548 on: April 08, 2020, 04:52:34 PM »
Let's say you have heart disease.

You get COVID-19, you get admitted to the ICU, you get sedated, intubated, and put on a ventilator.

36 hours later, while on the vent, you have a massive coronary and die.

Nobody here is claiming that you should attribute this death ONLY to heart disease and not to COVID-19, right? 

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« Reply #1549 on: April 08, 2020, 04:57:13 PM »
Let's say you have heart disease.

You get COVID-19, you get admitted to the ICU, you get sedated, intubated, and put on a ventilator.

36 hours later, while on the vent, you have a massive coronary and die.

Nobody here is claiming that you should attribute this death ONLY to heart disease and not to COVID-19, right?
No. But that death shouldn't ONLY be attributed to COVID-19 either, imo. Someone in that same condition could've died from something like the flu. People with serious illnesses or compromised immune systems are way more likely to die from any viral or bacterial infection they come down with. Not just COVID-19.

What I'd like to know, is what the actual death rate is in relatively healthy people. How deadly it really is for people that are pretty much healthy and 18-45.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1550 on: April 08, 2020, 04:58:33 PM »

Nobody here is claiming that you should attribute this death ONLY to heart disease and not to COVID-19, right?

Not in my view. It's important to note all conditions, however.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1551 on: April 08, 2020, 05:01:22 PM »
What I'd like to know, is what the actual death rate is in relatively healthy people. How deadly it really is for people that are pretty much healthy and 18-45.
Generally extremely low. https://www.vox.com/2020/3/23/21190033/coronavirus-covid-19-deaths-by-age 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1552 on: April 08, 2020, 05:02:02 PM »
Not in my view. It's important to note all conditions, however.
Exactly. You count it as a COVID-19 death and list comorbid conditions. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1553 on: April 08, 2020, 05:09:20 PM »
If that were me you're talking about, I'd say that the virus got me. I do have some mild conditions. I could lose a few pounds. I've had bronchitis and I smoke cigars. But, I manage and I can walk for hours and climb steps and all that. I work out.

If anything is going to kill me with this thing, it would be the virus.
So if a person has a history of bronchitis and a mild cigar habit, and they get the virus and die, we put that down as the virus? 

 

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