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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1554 on: April 08, 2020, 05:10:51 PM »
So if a person has a history of bronchitis and a mild cigar habit, and they get the virus and die, we put that down as the virus?
If the get the virus, and are mild or asymptomatic, I'd say no. 

If they get the virus, have an extremely heavy cough, fever, shortness of breath, and then one of their comorbidities pop off and they die? Yes. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1555 on: April 08, 2020, 05:11:35 PM »
Yes.

I haven't had bronchitis since 2012 or so. Before that I had it a lot, and pneumonia twice. I've worked to improve my immune system.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1556 on: April 08, 2020, 06:03:13 PM »
Yes.

I haven't had bronchitis since 2012 or so. Before that I had it a lot, and pneumonia twice. I've worked to improve my immune system.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1557 on: April 08, 2020, 06:03:37 PM »
I fall back to the stock market being imaginary thing.
I must have missed something.Imaginations may run or manipulate it but it's not imaginary.Inaccurate or dishonest probably
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1558 on: April 08, 2020, 06:07:35 PM »
I hope it's real.  Thus far, it's been real for me.  Granted, it is basically just electrons in a sense.  But it pays my bills, so I'd say it's as real as my bill payments.

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« Reply #1559 on: April 08, 2020, 06:11:33 PM »
This dude should be criminally investigated by the world court.
Brought to us by the same people that back the World Health Org.?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1560 on: April 08, 2020, 06:12:58 PM »
I hope it's real.  Thus far, it's been real for me.  Granted, it is basically just electrons in a sense.  But it pays my bills, so I'd say it's as real as my bill payments.
You've got a hell of an imagination,I need to get this creative.I was told the Horse Track could do the same thing.Must be that guy Mike who works for the ME Office
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1561 on: April 08, 2020, 06:19:57 PM »
I get bills.  I pay those bills with proceeds from the stock market.  Thus far, is works for me.  

I have (almost) no other sources with which to pay my bills.

My simple investment philosophy is to buy a stock and wait for it to go up.  If it doesn't go up, I don't buy it.

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« Reply #1562 on: April 08, 2020, 06:22:51 PM »
So a Ouija Board could come in handy or a coin flip perhaps.Do you have retirement plan from work(ing)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1563 on: April 08, 2020, 06:28:50 PM »
Yes.  Our retirement plan was basically all stock in the company, which is of course not a great idea, but they paid for it.  I now live off my investments.  I still have a few stock options to exercise which counts as earned income oddly enough.  I get a little bit of interest on bonds and money market stuff of course.  When I retired, I could diversify, and did, in a great hurry.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1564 on: April 08, 2020, 06:29:50 PM »
You've got a hell of an imagination,I need to get this creative.I was told the Horse Track could do the same thing.Must be that guy Mike who works for the ME Office
When I imagine our guy mike might be real, I can imagine all the things. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1565 on: April 08, 2020, 06:33:50 PM »
Yes.

I haven't had bronchitis since 2012 or so. Before that I had it a lot, and pneumonia twice. I've worked to improve my immune system.
So a person with a long history of bronchitis, a couple bouts of pneumonia and an immune system that wasn't in great shape for much of his life. That sounds like you have at least a few other factors. 

And I think we can assume a modest to large number of those folks whose COD is COVID and X have something that's on the same gradient as you. Some are more severe, some probably less. When you get older (I know, rude), you just kind of rack up ailments. 

(Then there's weird ironies like the fact you can get in two decades with heart failure. Amazing times we live in)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1566 on: April 08, 2020, 06:36:37 PM »
The "stock market" is real. When you buy a share of stock, you give money (through your broker) to a real human being who previously owned that stock. That share of stock means you own an infinitesimal piece of a company. That's a real thing. When you sell that stock, you sell it to another real human being and they (through their broker) give you money for it. 

Most of the rest of it is maddenly complicated and often seems completely disconnected from reality. Companies release good quarterly earnings and the stock drops. Companies whose economic prospects are rosy all drop in value because macroeconomic forces completely unrelated to their industries are bad, despite no effect on earnings. TSLA is a thing that consistently loses money but their stock is ~$400-500/share, for some reason...

And then we try to act like the DJIA is a good proxy for the economy, when the DJIA merely comprises the aggregate value of stock prices for just *30* companies. 

And that's before we get into "animal spirits" or technical investing--which as far as I can tell is reading a "chart" with absolutely no knowledge of the actual underlying business a company is in. 

So... I get that we consider much of it basically imaginary, because it's just buying/selling infinitesimal pieces of companies, often based on rational analysis but often also based on essentially following the trends up and down. 

But it's only "imaginary" because we've given it this place of reverence and esteem which exceeds what it is--a place where, based on whatever reason/strategy you choose, you can buy "shares" of ownership in corporations and keep or sell them as you see fit.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1567 on: April 08, 2020, 06:54:52 PM »
So a person with a long history of bronchitis, a couple bouts of pneumonia and an immune system that wasn't in great shape for much of his life. That sounds like you have at least a few other factors.

And I think we can assume a modest to large number of those folks whose COD is COVID and X have something that's on the same gradient as you. Some are more severe, some probably less. When you get older (I know, rude), you just kind of rack up ailments.

(Then there's weird ironies like the fact you can get in two decades with heart failure. Amazing times we live in)

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