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« Reply #32074 on: May 24, 2024, 12:04:26 PM »
Numbered, how exactly?  Do you foresee a time fairly soon where they will cease to exist as a state? Do you think the ICJ is going to send in all its troops?
of course not. Israel will continue to exist. (a) they are far too powerful militarily and (b) we bribe the f**cking sh*t out of the Egyptian, Jordanian, Qatari, Bahraini, and Saudi dictatorships with $$$ and military aid which helps keep them in power in their respective countries- in large part to keep the peace with Israel.

Israel's days of being completely protected and shielded by Daddy America on the worlds stage to do whatever the hell they want are numbered however. they will not have carte blanche to brutalize and subjugate the Palestinian people. Palestine is now closer to statehood than ever before, and it's in large part thanks to Netanyahu. this is the beginning of the end for Netanyahu and his criminal regime. not too dissimilar to the beginning of the end of the apartheid regime of South Africa. which by the way- Israel supported the apartheid regime in South Africa- even offered to sell them nuclear weapons. swell bunch of people.

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« Reply #32075 on: May 24, 2024, 12:05:42 PM »
So, their days aren't numbered then?  I'm confused.


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« Reply #32076 on: May 24, 2024, 12:06:41 PM »
So, their days aren't numbered then?  I'm confused.
it's ok. old men confuse easily. see: the President.

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« Reply #32077 on: May 24, 2024, 12:09:42 PM »
What does it all mean? It means Israel's days are numbered. 
Except when they aren't.

A means Z, except when it doesn't.  

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« Reply #32078 on: May 24, 2024, 12:11:17 PM »
Except when they aren't.

A means Z, except when it doesn't. 
yeah, no.

saying their days are numbered doesn't automatically = they will cease to exist as a state.

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« Reply #32079 on: May 24, 2024, 12:12:50 PM »
Here’s what’s in the mammoth $883.7B defense bill passed by the House (thehill.com)

Committee Chair Mike Rogers 
Mike Rogers 
(R-Ala.) said the bill “will help revitalize the defense industrial base and build the ready, capable, and lethal fighting force we need to deter China and our other adversaries.”

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« Reply #32080 on: May 24, 2024, 12:14:59 PM »
yeah, no.

saying their days are numbered doesn't automatically = they will cease to exist as a state.
Well to be fair, that's what I thought you meant, as well.

But your further clarification rings true to me, and sounds acceptable.  I don't think the US needs to be as heavily involved as we are in supporting Israel.  As you've noted before, they're all grown up now and can take care of themselves.

That doesn't mean we can back out of Israel or any other ally in the middle east completely.  The region is too important, globally, and we'll never, ever be able to extricate ourselves completely.  Nor should we.

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« Reply #32081 on: May 24, 2024, 12:19:46 PM »
If it doesn't mean they will cease to exist as a state, what DOES it mean?

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« Reply #32082 on: May 24, 2024, 12:24:23 PM »
If it doesn't mean they will cease to exist as a state, what DOES it mean?
He clarified to something along the lines of "their days of having free rein are numbered" which I think is an acceptable response.  They've squandered a ton of goodwill over the past 2-3 months. 

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« Reply #32083 on: May 24, 2024, 12:35:55 PM »
I think they will retain "free rein" to act as they see as being in their best interest, if it means "brutalizing Palestinians", that won't change, except that perhaps a more sensible government may gain power.  I think their actions have harmed their self interests, but to claim Israel's days are numbered is clearly false baring something entirely unexpected.  

To opine the days of the current government are numbered would be a more correct statement.

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« Reply #32084 on: May 24, 2024, 12:40:02 PM »

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« Reply #32085 on: May 24, 2024, 12:43:37 PM »
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel.  We will always defend it, whether they're going ballistic or not. 

And mdot's posts seem to ignore that Hamas exists.  Anything he blames Israel has done or is doing, Hamas does the same, to its own people.

Pretending otherwise is gross and/or antisemetic.
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« Reply #32086 on: May 24, 2024, 12:46:51 PM »
I know the meaning has changed over the years in common usage, but Arabs are also Semitic.

Many of the Jews aren't really.

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« Reply #32087 on: May 24, 2024, 12:48:43 PM »
I've told the story before, the Marines in my son's unit did a two week training in Israel some years ago and told me the IDF tactics often were WAY outside any ROEs American forces would use.  It's a very very messy situation with no "good answer" I can imagine.  But, I think the Israeli response is basically what Hamas wanted.

 

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