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« Reply #32060 on: May 24, 2024, 10:24:04 AM »
The people in Austin are more concerned with virtue signaling by voting for bike lanes and light rail that nobody ever uses, including and especially the people that voted for them.  They have zero interest in approaching real issues in a practical manner. And they continue to vote for representatives and referendums that offer absolutely no actual solutions.

Words can't describe how happy I am to be out of Austin proper.  I'm close enough that I can still easily enjoy all the things I care about in the city, but I'm no longer beholden to the idiocy of the masses.  It's such an incredible relief.  I didn't realize how horrible my day to day had become within that zoo, until I took hold of the keys, unlocked my cage, and released myself.


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« Reply #32061 on: May 24, 2024, 10:26:02 AM »
I have not seen it happening locally*.  There have been a few incidents at Lenox I read about where folks smashed and grabbed etc.  They added more security.  

*This doesn't mean it isn't of course.

The Whole Foods near us has an APD officer standing near the checkout lanes.  He or she looks really bored all the time, I usually wave or say Good Day etc.   There isn't a lot of retail near us, mostly service places.  Well, there is a small shopping mall a mile or so north and another a mile or so east and a Trader Joe's east of us my wife likes.  

It's interesting now that I think about it, no jewelry/clothing kinds of places near us.

We have the usual pawn shops, bail bond places, and strip clubs of course.

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« Reply #32062 on: May 24, 2024, 10:31:25 AM »
What does this mean? It's in the WSJ and I cannot link a freebie for it.

The United Nations’ highest court ordered Israel on Friday to halt military operations that could lead to the complete or partial destruction of the Palestinian population in Rafah, the Gaza Strip city where hundreds of thousands of civilians have sought refuge along with units of the Hamas militant group. 

The 13-2 vote by the International Court of Justice capped a week of international repudiation for Israel. On Monday, the International Criminal Court, a separate tribunal also located in the Hague, said that its prosecutor would seek to charge Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with three Hamas leaders, with war crimes related to the Gaza operation and the Oct. 7 attack on Israel that provoked it. 

After the ICJ decision was announced, Netanyahu’s office said he was consulting with his top cabinet officials on the ruling.


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« Reply #32064 on: May 24, 2024, 10:33:16 AM »
Toothless wannabes.

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« Reply #32065 on: May 24, 2024, 10:35:52 AM »
People aren't smart enough to make the connection.  Some other idiot with an agenda will tell them it's all the result of corporate greed and the sheep will swallow that bullshit with smiles on their faces.
I disagree and agree with @Cincydawg :
There will be a point where this reverses I think.  Folks will start to notice store closings that impact them directly and streets that become deserted when once they were thriving.  Or maybe folks will just whine that their local grocery closed and not understand why.

If you look at the history there is a pretty clear trajectory:

Liberal criminal policies fail spectacularly as anyone with a functioning brain could predict.  

Conservative criminal policies succeed but their success sows the seeds of their undoing.  Once reasonable criminal policies are enacted, crime drops and ceases to be a major issue in elections and conservatives start losing then liberals begin enacting their asinine criminal policies and this continues until crime gets so bad that it becomes a major electoral issue again and conservatives can win elections.  

NYC is a great example.  I visited in the early spring of 1994 and it was truly a Sh*thole.  That, honestly, is a nice way of saying it.  It was awful.  In fact, it was SO BAD that the far leftwing voters of NYC elected a Republican Mayor in the 1993 election.  Let me demonstrate just how astounding this is:
  • In the 1988 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Michael Dukakis carried 66.17%, Republican Bush carried 32.84% so the D beat the R by well over 2:1
  • In the 1992 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Clinton carried 68.73%, Republican Bush carried 24% so the D beat the R by close to 3:1
  • In the 1996 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Clinton carried 77.10%, Republican Dole carried 17.31% so the D beat the R by more than 3:1

In the 1993 NYC Mayoral election:
  • Democrat Dinkins carried Manhattan 242,524-166,357
  • Democrat Dinkins carried the Bronx 162,995-98,780
  • Democrat Dinkins carried Brooklyn 269,343-258,058
  • Republican Giuliani carried Queens 291,625-180,527
  • Republican Giuliani trounced Dinkins in Staten Island 115,416-21,507

Thus Republican Giuliani won the election 50.9%-48%, then:
  • Giuliani won 57.7-40.5 in 1997
  • Republican Bloomberg won 50.3-47.9 in 2001 (NOTE:  Bloomberg later ran for President as a Democrat and at THAT time he was pretty leftist on crime and everything else but when he ran for and served as Mayor of NYC he was conservative on criminal policies mostly just keeping Giuliani's successful policies in place).  
  • Republican Bloomberg won 58.4-39 in 2005
  • Independent Bloomberg won 50.7-46.3 in 2009
Crime under Dinkins got so bad that even NYC's reliably leftist voters voted R in five consecutive Mayoral elections.  Unfortunately, the Republicans were then victims of their own success.  Crime became less of an issue and NYC's leftist voters went back to voting on other issues and Republicans had no chance.  

My point is that eventually, when crime gets bad enough, voters will make logical decisions.  


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« Reply #32066 on: May 24, 2024, 10:43:48 AM »
I disagree and agree with @Cincydawg :
Well, I agree and disagree with you.

One thing that can happen is gentrification and a change in voter attitudes about crime and race.  (The two are unfortunately linked.)  Large portions of areas near us have gentrified over the decades and the voters here are "crime sensitive" to a much greater extent than before even if they are "liberals" (perish the thought).  I think many try to vote liberal, but as noted above, there can come a point where they will adopt some aspects viewed as conservatism.

And as with NYC, it can hit the proverbial breaking point.  The same is true with property taxes and other things.

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« Reply #32067 on: May 24, 2024, 10:51:59 AM »
What does this mean? It's in the WSJ and I cannot link a freebie for it.

The United Nations’ highest court ordered Israel on Friday to halt military operations that could lead to the complete or partial destruction of the Palestinian population in Rafah, the Gaza Strip city where hundreds of thousands of civilians have sought refuge along with units of the Hamas militant group.

The 13-2 vote by the International Court of Justice capped a week of international repudiation for Israel. On Monday, the International Criminal Court, a separate tribunal also located in the Hague, said that its prosecutor would seek to charge Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with three Hamas leaders, with war crimes related to the Gaza operation and the Oct. 7 attack on Israel that provoked it.

After the ICJ decision was announced, Netanyahu’s office said he was consulting with his top cabinet officials on the ruling.
France and Germany came out in strong support of the ICJ and ICC couple of days ago, and Norway, Spain, and Ireland also came out and formally recognized Palestine as a sovereign state.

What does it all mean? It means Israel's days are numbered. They stepped into it and are in some trouble. Daddy America can't shield their bitch asses and protect them forever. Our empire and influence in the world is in decline.

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« Reply #32068 on: May 24, 2024, 10:55:59 AM »
If you look at the history there is a pretty clear trajectory:
I understand that, but it was also 30 years ago.

People are different today. Many are being taught to HATE our country. Take a look around. Do you really think these people are going to wake up and smell the coffee?

No chance.
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« Reply #32069 on: May 24, 2024, 11:15:03 AM »
I understand that, but it was also 30 years ago.

People are different today. Many are being taught to HATE our country. Take a look around. Do you really think these people are going to wake up and smell the coffee?

No chance.
Unfortunately a lot of people will have to be victimized first but eventually there will be enough murders, rapes, and robberies to convince enough people to vote for DA's who aren't wingnuts 

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« Reply #32070 on: May 24, 2024, 11:26:59 AM »
I disagree and agree with @Cincydawg :
If you look at the history there is a pretty clear trajectory:

Liberal criminal policies fail spectacularly as anyone with a functioning brain could predict. 

Conservative criminal policies succeed but their success sows the seeds of their undoing.  Once reasonable criminal policies are enacted, crime drops and ceases to be a major issue in elections and conservatives start losing then liberals begin enacting their asinine criminal policies and this continues until crime gets so bad that it becomes a major electoral issue again and conservatives can win elections. 

NYC is a great example.  I visited in the early spring of 1994 and it was truly a Sh*thole.  That, honestly, is a nice way of saying it.  It was awful.  In fact, it was SO BAD that the far leftwing voters of NYC elected a Republican Mayor in the 1993 election.  Let me demonstrate just how astounding this is:
  • In the 1988 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Michael Dukakis carried 66.17%, Republican Bush carried 32.84% so the D beat the R by well over 2:1
  • In the 1992 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Clinton carried 68.73%, Republican Bush carried 24% so the D beat the R by close to 3:1
  • In the 1996 Presidential Election in NYC Democrat Clinton carried 77.10%, Republican Dole carried 17.31% so the D beat the R by more than 3:1

In the 1993 NYC Mayoral election:
  • Democrat Dinkins carried Manhattan 242,524-166,357
  • Democrat Dinkins carried the Bronx 162,995-98,780
  • Democrat Dinkins carried Brooklyn 269,343-258,058
  • Republican Giuliani carried Queens 291,625-180,527
  • Republican Giuliani trounced Dinkins in Staten Island 115,416-21,507

Thus Republican Giuliani won the election 50.9%-48%, then:
  • Giuliani won 57.7-40.5 in 1997
  • Republican Bloomberg won 50.3-47.9 in 2001 (NOTE:  Bloomberg later ran for President as a Democrat and at THAT time he was pretty leftist on crime and everything else but when he ran for and served as Mayor of NYC he was conservative on criminal policies mostly just keeping Giuliani's successful policies in place). 
  • Republican Bloomberg won 58.4-39 in 2005
  • Independent Bloomberg won 50.7-46.3 in 2009
Crime under Dinkins got so bad that even NYC's reliably leftist voters voted R in five consecutive Mayoral elections.  Unfortunately, the Republicans were then victims of their own success.  Crime became less of an issue and NYC's leftist voters went back to voting on other issues and Republicans had no chance. 

My point is that eventually, when crime gets bad enough, voters will make logical decisions. 


I mean, you've cited one city as an example.  And it's a good one.  But I don't see that as a broad base of evidence to support that it's going to happen every time.

I'm interested to see what happens in places like Chicago, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco.  Are they going to reverse their leftist policies and get crime under control, in the same way NYC has in the past?

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« Reply #32071 on: May 24, 2024, 11:47:40 AM »
What does it all mean? It means Israel's days are numbered. They stepped into it and are in some trouble. Daddy America can't shield their bitch asses and protect them forever. Our empire and influence in the world is in decline.
Numbered, how exactly?  Do you foresee a time fairly soon where they will cease to exist as a state?    Do you think the ICJ is going to send in all its troops?

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« Reply #32072 on: May 24, 2024, 11:53:38 AM »
I mean, you've cited one city as an example.  And it's a good one.  But I don't see that as a broad base of evidence to support that it's going to happen every time.

I'm interested to see what happens in places like Chicago, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco.  Are they going to reverse their leftist policies and get crime under control, in the same way NYC has in the past?
NYC is the financial capital of the republic and the world at large really, so it will always rebound in the end imo. Not sure it's fair to compare other cities to it for that reason.

Not sure about San Fransisco, Portland, or Seattle, but Chicago is a lost cause. That place is probably permanently f**cked. 

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« Reply #32073 on: May 24, 2024, 12:02:05 PM »
What does this mean? It's in the WSJ and I cannot link a freebie for it.

The United Nations’ highest court ordered Israel on Friday to halt military operations that could lead to the complete or partial destruction of the Palestinian population in Rafah, the Gaza Strip city where hundreds of thousands of civilians have sought refuge along with units of the Hamas militant group.

The 13-2 vote by the International Court of Justice capped a week of international repudiation for Israel. On Monday, the International Criminal Court, a separate tribunal also located in the Hague, said that its prosecutor would seek to charge Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with three Hamas leaders, with war crimes related to the Gaza operation and the Oct. 7 attack on Israel that provoked it.

After the ICJ decision was announced, Netanyahu’s office said he was consulting with his top cabinet officials on the ruling.



Because the only thing that the IDF is doing is wonton killing. There is no strategic plan, or even any idea of post-Hamas governance of the Gaza Strip. 

Unfortunately there aren't enough votes in the Knesset to force an early election.

The only lens to view this through is from Bibi trying to stay out of prison. 

 

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