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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #3724 on: March 17, 2021, 02:52:57 PM »
“Nobody worries,” Rayner and Sarewitz observe, “whether laypeople trust astrophysicists who study the origins of stars or biologists who study anaerobic bacteria that cluster around deep sea vents.” Nor have most of us come to distrust surgeons or airline pilots. It is rather a particular kind of science, “making claims upon how we live and how we are governed” that so many of us no longer trust.

This sort of science has become so intensely contested in the early decades of the 21st century because the science, related as it is to the complex interface of human societies, public health, the natural world, and technology, carries so much uncertainty across so many valences of human choices and values. Lay publics are right to mistrust strong claims, whether they come from scientists, policy-makers, or advocates, based upon this sort of science.


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« Reply #3725 on: March 17, 2021, 02:59:00 PM »
I just self published Book 3, started on Book 4.


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« Reply #3726 on: March 17, 2021, 03:12:21 PM »
Interesting, from one year ago today.

In the coronavirus pandemic, we're making decisions without reliable data (statnews.com)
In the coronavirus pandemic, we're making decisions without reliable data (statnews.com)
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« Reply #3727 on: March 17, 2021, 03:18:08 PM »
I think "we" had to make decisions without data.  By the time we might have had data it could be far too late.


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« Reply #3728 on: March 17, 2021, 03:27:52 PM »
Sweden made decisions. It's worked for them.
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« Reply #3729 on: March 17, 2021, 03:46:44 PM »
Ugh......I wish this wasn't so predictable.  
Oh well.
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« Reply #3730 on: March 17, 2021, 03:50:44 PM »
I think it became predicable early on in this thing. 

More people have had it than we know. 5-10x as many. Even if it's 5x as many, the death rate is 0.36% as of today, in the US.
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« Reply #3731 on: March 17, 2021, 03:52:59 PM »
What part of your body did those numbers originate?  
The predictable part was our lucking out that this thing wasn't worse + our precautions = the naysayers eventually touting how we overreacted.  Ick.
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« Reply #3732 on: March 17, 2021, 05:23:14 PM »
What part of your body did those numbers originate? 
The predictable part was our lucking out that this thing wasn't worse + our precautions = the naysayers eventually touting how we overreacted.  Ick.
From my brain, which contains considerable knowledge based on reading papers, such as the one I cited above (which you probably did not bother to open), and from talking to actual Scientists and Doctors (of Medicine). You know, The Science.

There were several experts who last year suggested that the case rate in Santa Clara County could be as much as 50x greater than known.

While I don't believe it's that high (we'd have herd immunity if it was), this virus has been here since November, or earlier. It was in Spain as early as September, based on municipal waste sample analyses. 

Asymptomatic Spread ran wild, and only when we knew what we had did people start to figure this thing out. It would have helped had the CCP and WHO come clean sooner, and had the CCP banned travel abroad - like they did for travel domestically.

Lots of people passed away from November through January and the medical community suspected pneumonia. Now we know better.

Anyway, here we are, sitting at a 1.8% death rate. Divide that number by 5 and you get 0.36%.
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« Reply #3733 on: March 17, 2021, 05:24:18 PM »
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« Reply #3734 on: March 17, 2021, 11:20:01 PM »
Makes me want to puke.

Meghan Markle, Prince Harry's fan-created GoFundMe page ends after dismal showing: report | Fox Business
Meghan Markle, Prince Harry's fan-created GoFundMe page ends after dismal showing: report | Fox Business

Badge. My friend. Why would it make you sick? Don't do that.

I've worked in a couple media adjacent fields, so I have half a feel for such things. This is a set of kinda of fascinating elements of the media landscape. 

This is outrage cotton candy. It's a story that people get low-key irked by and they share. And that's good for the outlet, cynical in it's approach. You can get a lot of traffic by saying something as simple as "Kids sure are crappy and ungrateful." You could write that at any point, and folks would heartily agree. This is something different. This is "look at this freak."

This person is at worst a weirdo, at best, a knowing grifter. And after getting highlighted by a national outlet, it can only help feed the weirdness or the grift. And here's the thing, we've had weirdos and grifters since time began, but we didn't have a way to highlight them quite as we do now. Or as profitably as we do now. 

Someone started a stupid gofundme, either because they're an sincere moron or they were trying to steal. No one cared. This is not a story or important. I could start a gofundme right now that says "Raise money to support 847BadgerFan after he was canceled for saying that racial slur." I could do that right now. It wouldn't mean you were canceled or said a slur or that I was seriously raising money for you. 

This is a weirdo being weird and a national outlet feeding us stupid content that bothers a lot of people because it's stupid. I don't think any of the weirdos on the board make you want to puke for any reason (hopefully), so no reason for some weirdo you'll never meat or wouldn't think about outside an outlet making them a freak show to either. 

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« Reply #3735 on: March 18, 2021, 06:41:46 AM »
I'd bash anyone for the kind of money they got for doing that interview (I assume).  Even you.
Why do you care about a financial arraignment between two consenting parties that does not affect you? Personally, I could care less about the Royals or the Orca, I really don't care for either of them. But what they do with their money is not my concern. 

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« Reply #3736 on: March 18, 2021, 08:54:30 AM »
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« Reply #3737 on: March 18, 2021, 11:33:22 AM »
Why do you care about a financial arraignment between two consenting parties that does not affect you? Personally, I could care less about the Royals or the Orca, I really don't care for either of them. But what they do with their money is not my concern.
I don't care.  I don't understand people who do.
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