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Re: Week 10
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2021, 11:34:42 PM »
Dang. Casually watching SNF. I had no idea Adrian
Peterson was still playing. Talk about longevity.
I think he's 36.  He can't have much left in the tank, can he?
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Re: Week 10
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2021, 10:56:49 AM »
he's a beast!
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Re: Week 10
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2021, 10:58:48 AM »
Yup.  That man just loves to run the football.  Sure wish he'd come to Texas where he would have won himself a national championship during his tenure, rather than wasting away in Norman.

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Re: Week 10
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2021, 02:02:16 PM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Week 10
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2021, 04:13:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/kpthefirst/status/1458162684382359559?s=20


The Texas fan base is grateful for this video. We've been through this before, trying to find out who wants to play ball and who's enjoying wearing the uniform. Mr. Davis is a winner. He's going to smell out the other winners, and send the rest home. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2021, 05:47:56 PM »
May be an image of 1 person and text that says '" AS WINNERS CAN SNIFF OUT LOSERS REALLY QUICK. TEXAS HAS GOT SOME LOSERS IN THEIR LOCKER ROOM. JOSH PATE SAYS WHOEVER LEAKED THE BO DAVIS VIDEO IS SOFTER THAN CHARMIN VIA LATE KICK WITH JOSH PATE 247SPORTS'
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Re: Week 10
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2021, 10:00:08 PM »
The Texas fan base is grateful for this video. We've been through this before, trying to find out who wants to play ball and who's enjoying wearing the uniform. Mr. Davis is a winner. He's going to smell out the other winners, and send the rest home.
But the Texas fan base doesn't hire and fire the coaches.
As I think I see it, the question is whether or not coaches like Bo Davis can last long enough to clean out the guys who enjoy wearing the uniform.
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Re: Week 10
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2021, 09:19:00 AM »
But the Texas fan base doesn't hire and fire the coaches.
As I think I see it, the question is whether or not coaches like Bo Davis can last long enough to clean out the guys who enjoy wearing the uniform.

I've rehashed recent (like 10 years is recent?) history several times already, but there were reasons that Texas did really dumb stuff with the last few coaching hires. Similarly, there are reasons why this one is different.
Sark has to play a football season. He has to get new kids involved. You get a roster with maybe 20 gamers and 60 jokers, you can't just start running kids off. You need those jokers to play games. Prospects don't want to see you clearing space like that. Bo Davis is telling me that the coaches know there's a deficit of "ganas" on the team. 
A coach can put you in schemes. He can get you strong and trained. He can tell you how to run the play, how to adjust, and how to read a defense. The other side trains, too. During a game, shedding a block to make a tackle takes heart. You have to "want to" more than the other guy. Those other guys love beating Texas. They "want to". The players with "Texas" on their chest have to love the team and their buddies enough to hate losing. Angry people win football games (someone good at coaching football, I think, said that once). The Texas players have to start being angry at losing. That anger should drive them to shed a block, or pancake their man, or find an extra gear. 
Football, as I understand it, is a tough game. The Texas players have to hate losing and find the pride in working next to their teammates.

This season isn't going to result in meaningful hardware. Time to train for next year. I don't care who laughed on the bus, or who shot the video. I'm willing to put last week behind me. Anyone willing to get on board after that rant is welcome on the train with no past recriminations. Going forward, though, only those with ganas will play. Everyone else can start preparing for that "life after football" that keeps being discussed.

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Re: Week 10
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2021, 12:08:27 PM »
yup, some programs treat their players well.

some programs allow a new coach to gut the roster and run everyone off.

I assume Frost was in a similar situation when taking over for Riley, who ran a country club with no discipline.  didn't want to throw 80 kids out the door

therefore it takes longer to establish the culture and get complete buy in 
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Re: Week 10
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2021, 10:19:39 PM »
I don't remember anything about Tom Herman being a disciplinarian, but I thought that that was part of Charlie Strong's resume.  But he didn't last long enough to change the culture, it seems.

Maybe I'm misremembering that about Strong, though.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 10:59:02 AM »
I think Herman and Strong both paid lip service to discipline, but I don't think it really was ever part of their culture.

Strong was such an obviously overmatched, out-of-his-depth head coach, that I don't think it ever could have mattered.  

I think Herman had a better handle on how to manage football at a helmet program.    He had other issues, allegedly, off the field. And he was routinely outcoached by teams that most certainly had far less talent on the roster.  He lost most of the fans after two straight season opening losses to Maryland.

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Re: Week 10
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 03:56:25 PM »
I don't remember anything about Tom Herman being a disciplinarian, but I thought that that was part of Charlie Strong's resume.  But he didn't last long enough to change the culture, it seems.

Maybe I'm misremembering that about Strong, though.
Herman wasn't really the "disciplinarian". He did sophomoric stuff like making the position group that lost intra-squad scrimmages eat cold eggs for breakfast the next day. Allegedly, he wanted to make the players hate losing. I understand the thought, and it probably worked for an actual jerk like Urban Meyer. When you're not a real life jerk, stunts like that just make people hate you.

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Re: Week 10
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2021, 11:50:46 AM »
Herman was a child.  Strong was in way over his head, and might also have been a poor coach who looked better because of a supreme talent at his previous gig.

And Sark is... well, the worst coach at Texas since 1956.


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Re: Week 10
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2021, 11:19:46 AM »
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