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Topic: Texas - LSU

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MikeDeTiger

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #126 on: September 12, 2019, 09:15:05 PM »
Doods,

I went off the rails yesterday, and I apologize.  I haven't read ensuing responses, and if y'all ripped me a new one, I deserved it.  While I meant the content of what I said, the presentation was ill-tempered, and y'all deserve better*.  What I should have said was something like "I can understand from a Texas fan's perspective why it would seem that way, but I'm confident that the players were not faking injury in the process of getting their butts handed to them, and here's why...**"  I wish that's what I had said, and I'm not sure why message board chatter gets to me sometimes.  It wasn't even mostly here....one of our boards got flooded with Longhorns about the same stuff, and I wound up taking it out here.  

Don't know what else to say other than my bad.  I got bent out of shape over something stupid.  Wish I could say it was the first time.

So yeah....some of those plays happening after negative plays (not when you fake that, if you're faking), the team having no history of doing such a thing (sadly, Texas is not the only team to whip our defense uncharacteristically silly, even in O's short tenure), but mostly the injury report....that several of those guys actually left the field and will now miss games awaiting medical clearance...all is enough to make me stick to my opinion.  If someone else sees it differently, I am happy to agree to disagree and I have no conclusive proof my team wasn't pulling something shady.  That's how I should have put it and where I should have left it.  
 



*the ones of you I know, anyway.  The rest of you might suck.

**Well, most of the incidents.  I kinda wondered about one of those instances myself.  Guy got beat on a 3rd and long for a first down, was clearly gassed, and had the look of one thinking "I suck and I'm done.  I think I'll just lay here."  Then came back in the game a play or two later.  

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #127 on: September 12, 2019, 10:04:49 PM »
It's all good, MDT.

I said "bullshit" in my response to you, and I later wished I'd said "bulljive" because while it conveys the same amount of disbelief and disagreement with the stance you're taking, it's also less intense and angry sounding.  Like I said from the beginning, in my opinion LSU played better than Texas at every single position-- sometimes only very slightly better at every position-- and earned the win.  Sam's abysmal first quarter was the difference in the game in my opinion.  Burrow didn't have an abysmal quarter or even an abysmal series that I can recall.  Ultimately in a 1 TD/1 possession game, that's what it came down to.

Best of luck to your team for the rest of the season.  We've got a ton of work to do on defense so I don't think we're going to face you again this year, but maybe we'll have better luck next year.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #128 on: September 12, 2019, 11:45:26 PM »
Wow.  The kitties take more dives than Greg Louganis, and MDT wants to chide us for not clapping.

SEC gonna SEC.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #129 on: September 13, 2019, 09:35:14 AM »

*the ones of you I know, anyway.  The rest of you might suck.


glad you fellers kissed and made up
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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #130 on: September 13, 2019, 10:44:41 AM »
Well, Texas took the step of releasing the Excel plots of both setting and actual monitored performance of the visiting locker room AC system during the time period in question. It showed a continuous setting of 68degF and an actual temperature variance of 71-75degF - the highest coming right as the LSU team was re-entering the locker room after the game.

This should shovel dirt on that silly debate. Ed Orgeron is one coach that we can't even hold this against. He says weird things. Bless him for that. I don't even think he meant to be insulting.

LSU suffered some real player injury and no doubt. No one sends Grant Delpit to the locker room just to stall a game. I won't look up the starting DE or DT's name, but they were obviously genuinely hurt as well.

I can't say it was a coached thing. Players aren't stupid. The LSU Tigers don't see a lot of the tempo that Texas brought, but they have heard that you can counter it through injury delay. Alabama (and others) have done this against Ole Miss and TAMU when they brought the uptempo game to a Fatball league. I'm predicting LSU will see, and complain about, a LOT of suspicious "injury times out" during their conference schedule.

In the end, Texas could have scored during 9 plays inside the LSU 5. Keontay Ingram could have caught a 4th down TD pass. Caden Sterns could have right shouldered his man on 3rd and 17. Texas asked Joe Burrow to win a football game by placing passes in NFL style windows, so he did exactly that. LSU was one TD better than Texas last Saturday.

If we win some games, I'm predicting we'll do this again at the end of the year for real hardware.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #131 on: September 13, 2019, 11:39:01 AM »
I like your optimism droog.  Unfortunately LSU isn't going to be in the top 2 or 3 offenses we face this season.  I am terrified of what OU can do to this defense, and I can only imagine Lincoln Riley licking his chops right now.

I'm not convinced we have the proper solutions in the defensive coaching staff, at least not for a high scoring spread offense league like the B12.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #132 on: September 13, 2019, 01:51:52 PM »
Lincoln Riley currently has no idea what his team is. He replaced 4 out of 5 OL and his DC. He might see something when OU plays UCLA, but there's a really good chance he won't know of his team's deficiencies until October begins.

I was hoping the young Texas DBs would be further along, but I guess there really is no school like experience. The coaches have two games' worth of film (Rice won't show us anything useful) to work with. Todd Orlando is too good of a detail man not to improve this already way above average backline.


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« Reply #133 on: September 13, 2019, 02:07:51 PM »
Hope you're right.  Looking at Texas' defensive performance against spread teams even going back to last year is... sobering.

In unrelated news, Texas' Visitor Locker Room now has its own twitter account.  What a world we live in. :)

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #134 on: September 13, 2019, 11:13:32 PM »
In the end, Texas could have scored during 9 plays inside the LSU 5. Keontay Ingram could have caught a 4th down TD pass. Caden Sterns could have right shouldered his man on 3rd and 17.

In the end, Texas could have taken some dives when Burrow got rolling.  Catch their breath and deflate the momentum.  But no, too classy.

And I'm good with that.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #135 on: September 13, 2019, 11:15:12 PM »
Unfortunately LSU isn't going to be in the top 2 or 3 offenses we face this season.  I am terrified of what OU can do to this defense, and I can only imagine Lincoln Riley licking his chops right now.

We pummel OU this year.  Remember, I called it last time it happened.

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #136 on: September 14, 2019, 03:15:08 PM »
We pummel OU this year.  Remember, I called it last time it happened.
When was the "pummeling" that you called?
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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #137 on: September 16, 2019, 10:16:38 AM »
When was the "pummeling" that you called?

The last time it happened.

Have you guys even played anybody yet?

Combined record of all OU opponents thus far: 1-8

And next 2 weeks you get Texas Tech and Kansas.  Yea, you guys oughta be world beaters.
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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #138 on: September 16, 2019, 03:35:43 PM »
So you don't know the last time it happened.  The time you "called it."

All that other stuff you threw in there just adds up to "red herring."
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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #139 on: September 16, 2019, 03:56:07 PM »
So you don't know the last time it happened.  The time you "called it."

All that other stuff you threw in there just adds up to "red herring."

So maybe it wasn't a "pummeling".

All that other stuff I threw in there were facts.

 

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