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CWSooner

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #140 on: September 16, 2019, 10:59:30 PM »
Sure, they were facts.

But they were not relevant to your claim that you had "called" the last pummeling.

They were just stuff you threw out hoping I'd be distracted into puffing up OU's OOC schedule this year.

But there's no puffing it up.  It's crap.  It could have turned out better, had Houston and UCLA been better, which they usually are.  But anytime you schedule Houston and an FCS team, and then have UCLA as your marquee game, you risk having a crap OOC schedule.  OU usually does better than that, or gets luckier than that, but not this year.

Rather than UCLA, we ought to be trying to schedule USC.
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« Reply #141 on: September 17, 2019, 08:56:53 AM »
OU's OOC is perfectly respectable.  A P5 game vs UCLA, and a matchup with Houston is normally decent early season material.

I am not dogging on the schedule, I am simply musing that all the way up to the Texas game, OU will have played no one.  Meanwhile, Texas will have endured at least 2 fist fights. That's just the way it turned out this year.

I like Texas' chances given the LSU juggernaut, and the coming Ok State matchup.  Our DB's will certainly have been given the workout prior to OU.  Jalen - not so much.

A lot of football is relative - and Jalen probably thinks playing at OU is easy as cool whip.  He'll have another thing coming.

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« Reply #142 on: September 17, 2019, 09:15:34 AM »
Agree with T95, I don't see any problem with OU's schedule.  UCLA and Houston should have been a good OOC slate, but there's no way to know for sure 6-12 years out when these things are scheduled.  It's not like USC is all that great this year, either.  And heck, Maryland probably thought they were scheduling a Top 10 type team when they signed the home-and-home with Texas, instead they got an easy creampuff season opener.

But I do think that, the way it's turned out, Texas will be the more battle-tested team by a healthy margin when the State Fair rolls around.  Doesn't mean the Horns will win, but I always like having some tough tests behind us before that game.

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« Reply #143 on: September 17, 2019, 07:57:07 PM »
Yes, an early-season test prepares you for tests down the road.

I wish that UCLA had been a lot better.  A reasonably tough road test would have been a good thing.
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« Reply #144 on: September 18, 2019, 09:18:16 AM »
Tough opponents or not I think that OU has played enough tough games in the past 2-3 years that the upperclassmen shouldn't be in autopilot mode.  I don't know the composition of OU's roster but I assume there are not too many sophomore's and fish starting.  

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« Reply #145 on: September 18, 2019, 09:59:39 AM »
Actually, Gigem, there are several underclassmen starting for OU, especially on defense.
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« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2019, 02:39:52 PM »
Granted with a 4 year window you will always have a few youngsters playing and starting (unless you're Clemson or Bama currently) but the bulk of a great team, IMO, should be made up of Juniors and Seniors with a few experienced sophomores and very few true unproven freshmen.  

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« Reply #147 on: September 24, 2019, 11:06:27 AM »
Fake injury update:

4 of our front 7 were out the week after Texas due to injuries in the game, and one cornerback played gimpy, though medically cleared.  The other two guys who went down in the game recovered almost like magic after hydrating and missed no further time after leaving the field and missing a couple possessions to go get IVs.   

Two weeks after Texas, 3 of the front 7 remained out injured, the 4th guy unfortunately reinjured himself and is lost for another few weeks.  Chatter is that we're optimistic that all but 2 of these guys could be back by the Florida game in 3 weeks.  

The bottom line is we're AWESOME at faking injuries.  Do not score on us.  We will hold our best players out for WEEKS in retaliation.  

Not that they can tackle anyway, so all things considered, it's a pretty good strategy.  



I boo'd all the UT players who got hurt in the Oklahoma State game.  My wife didn't appreciate it and now I'm sleeping on the couch.  

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« Reply #148 on: September 24, 2019, 11:15:27 AM »
Now, if you want to talk about actual shady things in that game, it's probably worth mentioning that LSU totally got one over on the refs at least once with substitutions.  I noticed rb Edwards-Helaire go down out of bounds on LSU's sideline and Fournette (not that one) standing right there and seamlessly come back in his place.  The zebras didn't catch it.  Texas should've been allowed to substitute and the refs should have stood over the ball to stop LSU from snapping it, but they didn't.  If I caught it on TV, it makes me wonder how many more times they've gotten away with it.  There is no way LSU doesn't practice something like that.  If you do it any other way other than coordinated and on purpose, the best you're going to wind up with is too many or too few men on the field.  I can't figure out whether to shake my head at the shadiness of it or applaud them for being sneaky bastards.

Then there's how Orgeron channeled his inner Urban Meyer and selectively suspended the left tackle.  Whatever the guy did (the nebulous "violation of team rules," I believe) he had a two game suspension to serve.  As far back as I can remember, definitely in the Saban/Miles days, if this happens then a player just sits the next however many games he's suspended.  Seems fair to me.  This LT was conveniently suspended for week 1 and week 3 against cupcakes, but not for Texas in week 2.  I thought it was crappy when Meyer did this stuff at Florida and I still don't like it.  

I hope anybody who coaches us does well, but it's not like admin didn't see this kind of thing coming, and they've evidently decided they're okay with it.  I think our days of a good coach who still got things done in a way I admired are over.  Winning is the only imperative now, and I expect we'll see more of this kind of stuff in the program.  

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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #149 on: September 24, 2019, 11:55:36 AM »

MDT:

Dood, you won the game.  It's been like 2 weeks ago.  Let it go.

P.S.  And thanks to LSU for the crash course, we still need a few pointers, but we had no choice but to dive on oSu a couple times.

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« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2019, 11:57:12 AM »
the substitution thing is real, I hope that the refs are just busy with other things and don't notice the offensive player coming off his own bench when the play finishes close to that sideline.  I hope.

Seems odd because the D-coordinator can easily spot it from across the field.

The Huskers were jobbed by that issue on Colorado's last drive with the clock running down.  Not only was the Husker defense NOT allowed to sub, they were not lined up and the play went for a large gain.  To make it worse, the defense was called for too many men on the field which was declined, but stopped the clock until the next snap.

I hope it was an honest mistake by the ref, but the Husker D-coordinator argued until Frost had to pull him off the field.  Seems like THAT could have been reviewed.

As far as a multiple game suspension being split between cupcakes and around an important game.....  I'm ok with that.  That's between the coach and the young man that made the mistake.  Number of games and what particular games.  If the punishment doesn't fit the crime, that's on the coach.
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Re: Texas - LSU
« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2019, 11:58:13 AM »
Fake injury update:



I boo'd all the UT players who got hurt in the Oklahoma State game.  My wife didn't appreciate it and now I'm sleeping on the couch. 
seems like a disciplinarian 
punishment is fitting!
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« Reply #152 on: September 24, 2019, 12:06:23 PM »
Fake injury update:

4 of our front 7 were out the week after Texas due to injuries in the game, and one cornerback played gimpy, though medically cleared.  The other two guys who went down in the game recovered almost like magic after hydrating and missed no further time after leaving the field and missing a couple possessions to go get IVs. 

Two weeks after Texas, 3 of the front 7 remained out injured, the 4th guy unfortunately reinjured himself and is lost for another few weeks.  Chatter is that we're optimistic that all but 2 of these guys could be back by the Florida game in 3 weeks. 

The bottom line is we're AWESOME at faking injuries.  Do not score on us.  We will hold our best players out for WEEKS in retaliation. 

Not that they can tackle anyway, so all things considered, it's a pretty good strategy. 



I boo'd all the UT players who got hurt in the Oklahoma State game.  My wife didn't appreciate it and now I'm sleeping on the couch. 

How's the one that flopped at the same time as his buddy, then when they looked at each other and realized they didn't both need to take a dive, looked over to the sideline where his coach was telling him to get back up, and so he popped right up?  Did he sit out 1 or 2 weeks from that fake dive?

It's really crazy that so many of them seemed to still be out for heat cramps several weeks later, when so many of them came back in on the next play after taking a dive.  If they were really injured, why did your coaching staff let them come back in?  If you want to bring up REALLY shady behavior, that one's entirely on your coaching staff.

In other news, 2 of our players that went down with real injuries against Oklahoma State and didn't return for the rest of the game, will be out 4 weeks and likely miss the OU game.  A third one that went down with real injuries against Oklahoma State and didn't return for the rest of the game, will be out for the entire season.  All three are DBs so that's going to cost us pretty badly this season.

Now back to your regularly scheduled worship of the SECSECSEC or whatever. 


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« Reply #153 on: September 24, 2019, 12:09:44 PM »
MDT:

Dood, you won the game.  It's been like 2 weeks ago.  Let it go.

P.S.  And thanks to LSU for the crash course, we still need a few pointers, but we had no choice but to dive on oSu a couple times.
No shit, I've never seen a fan base whine so much a about a GD win. I certainly never expected it from MDT.




 

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