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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5110 on: August 20, 2021, 08:40:15 PM »
Effin' China!  For a billion reasons.
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« Reply #5111 on: August 20, 2021, 08:47:10 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 20, 2021, 10:12:22 AM
The powerful greenhouse gases tetrafluoromethane and hexafluoroethane have been building up in the atmosphere from unknown sources. Now, modelling suggests that China’s aluminium industry is a major culprit.

The gases are thousands of times more effective than carbon dioxide at warming the atmosphere. Official tallies of tetrafluoromethane and hexafluoroethane emissions from factories are too low to account for the levels in the air, which began to rise in 2015 after seven years of relative stability.

Seeking to pinpoint the sources of those emissions, Jooil Kim at the University of California, San Diego, and his colleagues analysed air samples collected roughly every 2 hours between November 2007 and December 2019 on South Korea’s Jeju Island. The scientists also modelled the weather patterns that transported air across the island during that period, to track the gases’ origins.

The results suggest that aluminium smelters in China account for a large proportion of these chemicals in the atmosphere.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02231-0

Wow this is shocking news and nobody ever could have predicted it.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5112 on: August 21, 2021, 09:37:25 AM »
Anyone who thinks China will do more than lip service for PR purposes on this area is delusional.  That goes for "normal" pollution as well.  They are low cost producer of things because they don't care about the environment.  At all.

And that isn't going to change.  Whatever steps we take will be drop in a bucket.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5113 on: August 22, 2021, 09:19:46 AM »
FEMA: Coastal Flood Risks

"This homepage houses all resources and mapping information related to coastal flood risks and mapping for all stakeholder groups in coastal communities nationwide. Historically, cities, towns and villages are settled around ports along the nation's coastlines, providing individuals and families opportunities for trade, jobs and transportation, recreation and relaxation.

https://www.fema.gov/floodplain-management/manage-risk
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5114 on: August 26, 2021, 10:00:38 AM »
Global electric emissions outpace pre-pandemic levels: research | TheHill

What I foresee is:

1.  More meetings and more promises.
2.  More GHG emissions globally.
3.  More handwringing and failure to admit the obvious.

The one thing we won't  get more of is realistic appraisals.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5115 on: August 26, 2021, 08:42:44 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5116 on: August 27, 2021, 09:22:18 AM »
I think we'll have to have Diesel generators for emergency services for EVs.  It's not stupid.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5117 on: August 27, 2021, 09:30:52 AM »
That whole scenerio isn't energy efficient is the point.....I'm guessing
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5118 on: August 27, 2021, 09:52:23 AM »
No, it's not, at all.  At some point we might have towable batteries to service EVs out of charge.  But if they are charged from coal plants, the advantage is of course reduced.

I suspect it's time for another Climate Conference where folks get together and issue stern warnings and make more promises to "do stuff".

Then, in five more years, they will have repeated the process just as they have for the last number of years, meetings, promises, and no effective action.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5119 on: August 27, 2021, 11:17:24 AM »
And billions (or trillions, if some get their way) spent foolishly.
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« Reply #5120 on: August 27, 2021, 11:19:51 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2021, 11:17:24 AM
And billions (or trillions, if some get their way) spent foolishly.
That's what government excels at.
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« Reply #5121 on: August 27, 2021, 11:22:08 AM »
It's about the only thing it excels at.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5122 on: August 27, 2021, 04:41:10 PM »
Ida getting ready to hit SEC country

Houston is gonna dodge another one it looks like
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #5123 on: August 28, 2021, 11:36:09 AM »
This could be really bad. It's expected to hit as a CAT 4. 

The flood "protection" system was designed to handle a CAT 3 (even though Katrina was a CAT 5).

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