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Topic: Michigan/Ohio State Fight Club - Have at it HERE

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ELA

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« Reply #560 on: December 05, 2025, 01:24:57 PM »
I don't know how this became a "morality" issue.

Michigan cheated.  OSU cheated.  MSU has cheated.  Every team has cheated at one point or another.  Every school has ugly history that doesn't involve cheating.  If I'm going to turn my back on MSU, it's not because Mel Tucker covered costs for a couple recruits, it's going to be because they covered for Larry nassar.

Literally my only issue in all of this, and why I hate Coach K, is pretending to be above it.  I don't think OSU ever pretending to be "doing it the right way".  Michigan has always been like, "all these cheaters, yet we persevere."

Maybe I'm a little too intimately involved because I remember the first time I went to a UM-MSU game as an MSU student, was a basketball game.  I saw someone I graduated high school with, in the restroom at Crisler because we were washing our hands next to each other.  I say "graduate" loosely, because I'm not sure he did.  He certainly didn't go to college, and last I saw he works at a gym in Ann Arbor, and still lives with his parents, at 40.  We weren't friends, but it felt weird to not not say hi, and his response, was "Ha, CANT READ, CANT WRITE!"  The weird eliteism that creeps into the UM fanhood is the only thing that irked me.  It's an amazing school.  It's a better school than MSU.  Very few actual UM alums have felt the need to point that out.  The number of people I graduated high school with who still live with their parents 45 years later who feel the need to is oddly high

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« Reply #561 on: December 05, 2025, 02:39:41 PM »
 I don't think OSU ever pretending to be "doing it the right way".  
I appreciate your post and honestly, I have appreciated how much perspective you've given on this topic and realistically over the years. You had a lot of insight and so did Honestbuckeye being much more closely interacting with the campus with you having connections and him being a parent. That being said, I don't know how you can stand by the one quote above after being on this board. That part is every part of my issue. Not making Michigan look clean because they aren't. Not saying Stallions didn't cross lines.. because he did.. not claiming they didn't cross the line which could be considered cheating because it's fair to say they did.. It's the intentional effort to constantly state Michigan is cheaters, while acting like OSU is the high character standard and that's why as a fan one can look down and speak down. It's absurd. To be honest, and you can absolutely correct me if I'm speaking out of line, but it felt like you going from AAA to ELA, your biggest issue was the arrogance coming from UM that rubbed you the wrong way. It has made more sense to me now that ever. There's plenty of people on here that have had the conversation of what Michigan and stallions did that have given so much perspective and forced me to consider other opinions.. That can be done with firm opinion, yet respectfully, which so many have done.. It's the ones that came across smug and basically saying you're a group of cheating scumbags because of your school and I'm just better than you that makes me want to throw down and say enough is enough. Let's have some class, interact respectfully.. It's why this place was different from rivals and all the other chump forums out there. 

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« Reply #562 on: December 05, 2025, 02:49:23 PM »
Yeah, to go back, making it a morality issue, I don't like.

All of these schools have done a lot of things worse than cheat at a game.  Most of them before we were born

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« Reply #563 on: December 05, 2025, 02:50:56 PM »
Yeah, to go back, making it a morality issue, I don't like.

All of these schools have done a lot of things worse than cheat at a game.  Most of them before we were born
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« Reply #564 on: December 05, 2025, 03:14:03 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8T7PPcBVI&t=0s
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« Reply #565 on: December 05, 2025, 03:17:16 PM »
Well you know, except for CD of course...


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« Reply #566 on: December 05, 2025, 05:16:48 PM »
Well you know, except for CD of course...


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« Reply #567 on: December 05, 2025, 05:18:10 PM »
my vote is we just stop all the mudslinging here. This should be a happy place and it used to be a happy place.   it used to be mostly about football.

All this stuff where rehashing is in the past.   I think we should just move forward and stop the hate.  There’s enough hate around us and I’d love to have it be that we don’t really have it here.
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« Reply #568 on: December 05, 2025, 05:19:05 PM »
oh, and for the record. I don’t hate Michigan, and I never have, and I never will.  

I love college football too much for that and maybe it’s because I’m a little older and grew up in the generation of respect. 
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« Reply #569 on: December 05, 2025, 06:26:52 PM »
my vote is we just stop all the mudslinging here. This should be a happy place and it used to be a happy place.  it used to be mostly about football.

All this stuff where rehashing is in the past.  I think we should just move forward and stop the hate.  There’s enough hate around us and I’d love to have it be that we don’t really have it here.
yeah I'm with you, I'm over the bickering. seems like it's just one guy who wants to keep it going though- and others take the bait and get sucked into it. 

Ohio State is a great program and Ryan Day got the monkey off his back. Congrats. I still hope like hell Indiana beats you basterds though. :)

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« Reply #570 on: December 05, 2025, 07:18:41 PM »
yeah I'm with you, I'm over the bickering. seems like it's just one guy who wants to keep it going though- and others take the bait and get sucked into it.

Ohio State is a great program and Ryan Day got the monkey off his back. Congrats. I still hope like hell Indiana beats you basterds though. :)
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« Reply #571 on: December 05, 2025, 09:31:59 PM »
That left a mark,there'll be hell to pay junior
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« Reply #572 on: December 06, 2025, 08:40:47 AM »
yeah I'm with you, I'm over the bickering. seems like it's just one guy who wants to keep it going though- and others take the bait and get sucked into it.

Ohio State is a great program and Ryan Day got the monkey off his back. Congrats. I still hope like hell Indiana beats you basterds though. :)
Well at least they finally got your attention you were asleep at the wheel for a while there. IMHO when Sayin thru that pick early most Scarlett & Gray fans had to be thinking "Here we go again". Welp on to bigger and better things
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« Reply #573 on: December 06, 2025, 08:42:27 AM »
He took his warm milk already, but tomorrow there will be heck to pay...HECK!
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