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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1316 on: February 18, 2024, 07:55:38 AM »
We apparently are seeing the classic "early adopter" syndrome that happens with every innovation that the public can accept, or not.  I recall when CDs first hit the market, CD players were very pricey, I wanted one, badly.  The Sony was $1,000 then, just a basic CD player, and CDs were in the $20 range, these prices would be about double adjusted for inflation.

The Sony finally went on sale for $600 and I bought one.  It was most cool, no more scratches on vinyl to worry about.  It took some time, and steep price drops, for more folks to "adopt" one.  Now of course they are out of style.

With EVs, as discussed, there are more issues than just initial entry price, though that's a large one.  But I sense most folks who really wanted an EV bought one anyway, and the rest of "us" are standing by waiting.  The practicality of an EV is "not there yet" for many of us regular folk.

So, Tesla got out of the gate with the early adopters and then the majors stepped in just at the time when demand was sagging below projections, still growing, but not as fast as their straight lines suggested (duh).


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1317 on: February 18, 2024, 07:58:01 AM »
While buyers of new electric vehicles are eligible for up to $7,500 in federal tax credits, only 18 models are currently eligible for that full credit, down from about two dozen last year. One of those eligible models, the Ford F-150 Lightning, an all-electric pickup truck that once had a waiting list of 200,000, last year saw sales of 24,000, far short of the 150,000 sales projected by Ford.
And while construction of EV chargers is expanding, nearly doubling from about 87,000 in 2019 to more than 172,000 last year, analysts project that the nation will need more than 2 million chargers by 2030 to support the growth in electric vehicles envisioned by the proposed rules.
All that worries auto companies, which have invested about $146 billion over the past three years in researching and developing electric vehicles, according to the Center for Automotive Research, a nonprofit organization in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Auto companies would face billions of dollars per year in fines if the emissions associated with their auto sales exceed the limits set by the new regulations.
The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, which represents 42 car companies that produce about 97% of the new vehicles sold in the United States, asked the administration for the same slowdown sought by the UAW.
“Pace matters,” John Bozzella, president of the alliance, said in an interview. “Give the market and supply chains a chance to catch up, maintain a customer’s ability to choose, let more public charging come online.”
Analysts say the current lag in electric vehicle sales is to be expected, as the market for early adopters – typically wealthier, coastal residents who have bought an EV as a second car – is saturated.



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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1318 on: February 18, 2024, 08:21:01 AM »

The EPA designed the proposed regulations so that 67% of sales of new cars and light-duty trucks would be all-electric by 2032, up from 7.6% in 2023, a radical remaking of the American automobile market.
That remains the goal. But as they finalize the regulations, administration officials are tweaking the plan to slow the pace at which auto manufacturers would need to comply, so that electric vehicle sales would increase more gradually through 2030 but then would have to sharply rise.
gee whiz
set unrealistic goals
then "as you finalize" the regulations, back way off 
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1319 on: February 18, 2024, 08:44:26 AM »
Might be an election soon also.

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« Reply #1320 on: February 18, 2024, 08:47:43 AM »
automakers

possibly a stronger lobby than the egg producers
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1321 on: February 21, 2024, 11:05:19 AM »
Pros and Cons of Electric Cars: Everything You Need to Know (caranddriver.com)

Oddly, this doesn't mention the relaive high cost of charging away from home as compared with just using gasoline.  To me, that is a MAJOR consideration.

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« Reply #1322 on: February 21, 2024, 11:20:46 AM »
Pros and Cons of Electric Cars: Everything You Need to Know (caranddriver.com)

Oddly, this doesn't mention the relaive high cost of charging away from home as compared with just using gasoline.  To me, that is a MAJOR consideration.
Yeah, the article was heavier on driving/lifestyle characteristics and quite lean on economics. It did touch on a home charger being the most cost-effective method, but that was one line in the article. 

Plus I don't think they were going for an "if you can't charge at home, don't even think about it!" tone in this article lol...

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1323 on: February 21, 2024, 11:35:07 AM »
I would have said "Note that charging away from home can be as expensive as buying gasoline.".


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« Reply #1324 on: February 21, 2024, 10:00:17 PM »
and take a little longer
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1325 on: February 22, 2024, 08:30:15 AM »
They mention that aspect of recharging times, but not the expense.  A LOT of folks think it's cheaper to drive an EV, always, and it isn't, not even close.

 

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