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Topic: OT - Weird History

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OT - Weird History
« on: January 26, 2022, 02:13:25 PM »
Napoleon wasn't French, Hitler wasn't German, and Stalin wasn't Russian.

There were bolsheviks and mensheviks in Russia in 1917, the former won, it basically means majority.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 02:18:40 PM »
The US went to war with Spain in 1898 (for dubious reasons related in part to an explosion of the Maine), one of five declared wars the US has had.  The US won, and took over many Spanish possessions, including the Phillippines (which arguably got us into war in 1941).  There was incentive to keep Cuba, but ostensibly part of the reason for war was to free Cuba.  The PI had coconut trees which was needed by Lever Bros. to make soap (so one story goes).

Some 40 odd years later, we cut Japan's principal oil supply.  Japan was in dire straits and looked to southeast Asia for oil, but the supply lines ran by the PI, so they figured they needed to take the PI which in turn meant neutering the US Pacific Fleet which had been forward positioned at Pearl Harbor.  So, to secure their oil from Borneo and Indonesia, they finally decided to attack said US Pacific Fleet, and did, missing our three carriers in the Pacific.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 02:20:44 PM »
The Hiroshima A bomb was never tested.  The Nagasaki bomb was more "advanced" and used plutonium instead of uranium in an implosion mechanism and was the type tested in 1945 before being used.  Nuclear weapons today usually are based on plutonium, not uranium (though they can contain some of the latter).  The A bomb now serves as a trigger for the more powerful fusion weapon.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2022, 02:55:37 PM »
The Hiroshima A bomb was never tested.  The Nagasaki bomb was more "advanced" and used plutonium instead of uranium in an implosion mechanism and was the type tested in 1945 before being used.  Nuclear weapons today usually are based on plutonium, not uranium (though they can contain some of the latter).  The A bomb now serves as a trigger for the more powerful fusion weapon.
The Trinity Site in New Mexico (where they conducted the world's first atomic explosion to test the Nagasaki bomb) is only open two days a year.  In 2022 those dates are:
  • Saturday, April 2 and 
  • Saturday, October 15
I visited about ten years ago and it is really fascinating if you like history.  IMHO, the explosion conducted there at 5:29 a.m. on July 16, 1945 was possibly the most impactful event in human history.  Wars were converted essentially by that event from terrible struggles in which one side would eventually win and the other would eventually lose into potentially catastrophic apocalypses in which we literally possess the power to wipe out humanity.  


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2022, 06:34:44 PM »
"Northmen" who we sometimes call Vikings today somewhat incorrectly, started spreading out circa 850 AD and one group headed by a fellow named Rollo settled in the area of France we now call "Normandy", oddly enough.  Northmen/Danes had raided Paris several times, and Rollo had control of the Seine River, and in return for keeping the hords out of Paris, the French King gave him the land and a dukedom.  His grandson, born in Falaise with the French name Guillaume, had a claim to the English crown, which he thought was taken from him, so he assembled an army and ships and crossed the "French Channel" and defeated Harold of England at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 and became King of England and Duke of France, a situation which lead to hundreds of years of war.  It also greatly impacted our language.

Previously, the Britons were pushed out of England by invading Saxons and Angles into a peninsula called Wales today, and some of them fled by ship to another area of France we now call Brittany, where the local Breton language has some overlap with modern English, and their flag looks a bit like ours.



So, we are German, Danish, French, Norwegian, Irish, Roman, and whatever else as is the English language.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2022, 06:38:16 PM »
I always found it odd that a coworker, who was born in Cuba, and whose birth name was Guillermo, went by "Bill". I had no clue how you got from one to the other.  

I had never known that Guillermo is the Spanish version of Guillaume, which is the French version of William. Hence Guillermo was called Bill. 

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2022, 06:42:22 PM »
Guillaume pronounced sounds vaguely akin to William.




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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2022, 07:04:01 PM »
So, we are German, Danish, French, Norwegian, Irish, Roman, and whatever else as is the English language.
Not sure about the Anglos or the Saxons but wasn't English derived from a German Tribe - Engles.I think they came to the States and built a cabin in Minnesota - on the prarie by Lake Wobegone - you're welcome
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2022, 07:13:16 PM »
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2022, 09:32:19 PM »
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2022, 09:46:03 PM »
I always found it odd that a coworker, who was born in Cuba, and whose birth name was Guillermo, went by "Bill". I had no clue how you got from one to the other. 

I had never known that Guillermo is the Spanish version of Guillaume, which is the French version of William. Hence Guillermo was called Bill.
The father of one of my best friends, is named Guillermo, and we all call him Willy.

He's awesome, he's a former prison corrections officer that now owns a ton of property down in the Rio Grande Valley.  He's loaded and he doesn't trust banks, so he keeps a lot of his money under mattresses at some of his various homes.  He's got hundreds of thousands stashed under there.  One of the houses burned and he said he probably lost $100,000.  I believe him, I've seen some of those mattresses.  A few years back he gave each of his three kids $100,000 in cash.  Just because.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2022, 06:09:55 AM »
There's an interesting reason that many Cuban's names being with the letter Y.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2022, 07:39:44 AM »
When Germany attacked France in 1940, they had fewer tanks than the French and their tanks were markedly inferior in size and weight versus most French tanks.  They had fewer men, artillery, planes, etc., and the French had the BEF present as an additional force, plus the Maginot Line (which "worked" tactically, if not strategically).

If you "game play" this battle, it's impossible to lose that fast as the French did with even moderate sense.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2022, 08:26:37 AM »
When Germany attacked France in 1940, they had fewer tanks than the French and their tanks were markedly inferior in size and weight versus most French tanks.  They had fewer men, artillery, planes, etc., and the French had the BEF present as an additional force, plus the Maginot Line (which "worked" tactically, if not strategically).

If you "game play" this battle, it's impossible to lose that fast as the French did with even moderate sense.
There were two main differences:

First, German tanks were massed into powerful spearheads that were able to smash through the French/British lines thus creating havoc in undefended rear areas and surround large troop formations. In contrast the more numerous French tanks were spread out along the whole line as infantry support weapons. The German method is how pretty much everybody utilizes tanks today but in 1940 the French didn't know that.

Second, the Luftwaffe's planes and pilots were newer, better, and far better integrated with the ground forces than their allied counterparts.

German unit coordination in 1940 was not nearly as advanced as Soviet let alone American coordination would be by 1945 but it was vastly better than the French and British of 1940.

 

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