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I'd like to see nuclear and I'd like to see an end to fracking.

Also need to remove all the dams and levees.

I like what Heinlein wrote in "Time Enough for Love"

there are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who "love nature" while deploring the "artificialities" with which "man has spoiled 'Nature.'" The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are NOT part of "nature - but beavers and their dams are. But the contradictions go deeper than this prima-facie absurdity. In declaring his love for a beaver dam (erected by beavers for beavers' purposes) and his hatred for dams erected by man (for the purposes of men) the Naturist reveals his hatred for his own race--i.e. his own self-hatred. . . . .As for me, willy-nilly, I am a man, not a beaver and H. Sapiens is the only race I have or can have. Fortunately for me, I like being part of a race made up of men and women--it strikes me as a fine arrangement-and perfectly "natural". Believe it or not, there were "Naturalist" who opposed the first first to old Earth's moon as being "unnatural" and a "despoiling of Nature"  END QUOTE

And I believe there is a role for conservation and preservation of things in "Nature" and we shouldn't destroy things just to destroy them. But I find the "hyper" naturist unbearable and found these thoughts by Heinlein interesting.  

Oh they can stay there just don't expect anyone owes you anything for doing so

Here in CA, I drove up and then down nearly the entire length of I-5 through the state on my way to and from Oregon over the last week. 

Water is a huge issue in the CA central valley. Up to the point where I saw things along the road saying "Build more dams". 

I stopped well short of Portland lol...

Dams certainly do silt up over time.  No question about that.  There was one near us in Cincy on a small creek prone to flooding, they came and dug out the lake, which was used recreationally and had turned awful.  It was nice again, for 50 years I guess.

Dams certainly do silt up over time.  No question about that.  There was one near us in Cincy on a small creek prone to flooding, they came and dug out the lake, which was used recreationally and had turned awful.  It was nice again, for 50 years I guess.

Talking about Winton Woods Lake? I live right next to it, it was amazing the differences after the dredging.  Only issue I had was the storm drain system went to the lake and the racoons used them as a means to get into my neighborhood and raid the trash cans.  

I live next to a dam. I'm not terribly certain why it exists but it makes for a pretty walk each morning.