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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3010 on: June 19, 2020, 10:51:02 PM »
A French company whose plastic-eating enzyme technology could revolutionise recycling is due to have a plant up and running by next year.

The Carbios plant, outside Lyon, will convert PET plastic – used in water and fizzy drink bottles and polyester fibres – back into its raw material. Current recycling methods “downcycle” plastic into lower-
quality material, which means it eventually cannot be recycled any more.

This process means the new material is of the same quality as the original, allowing for infinite recycling. In just 10 hours, a tonne of shredded plastic can be 90% degraded by the enzymes, which have been developed from those found occurring naturally in landfill sites.


https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/plastic-eating-enzyme-will-revolutionise-recycling
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3011 on: June 20, 2020, 06:37:10 AM »
Of course, first you have to separate the streams and isolate on bottles that are PET, which means no bottle caps in said stream.  Most folks recycle with the cap on the bottle.

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« Reply #3012 on: June 20, 2020, 09:49:43 AM »
so, the cap on the bottle can't be made of something that can be recycled?

otherwise, some method to separate caps and bottles can be found

heck, just tell folks to toss the caps in the garbage or out the window
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3013 on: June 20, 2020, 09:56:57 AM »
The bottle cap generally is polypropylene.  It's properties are needed to maintain the seal.  The bottle is polyethyleneterephthalate (PET).  It's properties are needed to keep the gas inside, among other things.

It's easy to recycle either if they are separated.  PET can be recycled easily, or turned back into the component monomers easily, and chemically, this is all well known operations.  You don't need some fancy enzyme, but you do need source separation.

Most "plastic" by far is polyethlyene (PE) which also can be recycled, easily, if you get a nearly pure stream.

The white packaging foam is polystyrene, which can be converted back into styrene and reused, easily, IFF it is separated into a pure stream.

The issue with all of these fancy sounding techniques is source separation, not chemistry.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3014 on: June 20, 2020, 10:16:34 AM »
source separation seems achievable

for the most part we have been able to achieve hand washing and butt wiping by the masses
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3015 on: June 20, 2020, 10:30:42 AM »

The bottle cap generally is polypropylene.  It's properties are needed to maintain the seal.  The bottle is polyethyleneterephthalate (PET).  It's properties are needed to keep the gas inside, among other things.
Gotta check with my brother he was working with some company that designed and made those caps.That are indeed a different chemical composite than the bottles.5-6 yrs back he went over to China on business twice because of....bottle caps.Didn't know it was that invlolved
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3016 on: June 20, 2020, 11:41:48 AM »
All our "recycle" stuff goes into the same bin here, I don't have an option, nor do most people.  The local liquor store has bins for glass bottles by type, which probably does get recycled.  I think most MSW "recycle" goes to landfill.

One thing inherent in making a polymer is that a polymer can be reduced back down to monomers, it's a well understood process.  A thing that I've never seen is a process that does that stepwise for mixed plastics, and traps the monomers from polyethylene first and then polypropylene second and PET third, etc.  My guess is such a process is not very clean and you end up having to purify the monomers again. $$$$$


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« Reply #3017 on: June 22, 2020, 04:21:37 PM »

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« Reply #3018 on: June 22, 2020, 09:26:41 PM »
Melting Glaciers Cool the Southern Ocean – Might Explain the Recent Antarctic Cooling and Sea Ice Expansion

https://scitechdaily.com/melting-glaciers-cool-the-southern-ocean-might-explain-the-recent-antarctic-cooling-and-sea-ice-expansion/
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« Reply #3019 on: June 30, 2020, 05:27:47 PM »
The Iowa Utilities Board verifies the amount of renewable energy produced by MidAmerican Energy in a given year. In 2019, that amounted to 61.3% of the retail electric load MidAmerican Energy delivered to its Iowa customers. This allows us to assure our customers that they are using clean, renewable energy, harvested in Iowa.
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« Reply #3020 on: June 30, 2020, 06:07:51 PM »
Cow chips?
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« Reply #3021 on: June 30, 2020, 06:52:50 PM »
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind

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« Reply #3022 on: June 30, 2020, 08:44:53 PM »
Pollen?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3023 on: July 01, 2020, 08:02:39 AM »
The melting of ice does suck energy from somewhere (and vice versa) and would potentially cool its surroundings.

 

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