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FearlessF

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1442 on: June 17, 2019, 12:51:58 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 17, 2019, 11:55:21 AM
So much for clean water...
don't worry, the sewage from Chicago dumps into the Mississippi just north of St. Louis

thankfully, too far south to be a bother to Iowa
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1443 on: June 17, 2019, 01:13:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 17, 2019, 12:51:58 PM
don't worry, the sewage from Chicago dumps into the Mississippi just north of St. Louis

thankfully, too far south to be a bother to Iowa
Still have a lot of Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota going in there.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1444 on: June 17, 2019, 01:19:00 PM »
Stirr that Pot Fearless  :a102:
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1445 on: June 17, 2019, 01:20:41 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 17, 2019, 01:13:24 PM
Still have a lot of Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota going in there.
yah, but in comparison to the sewage from Chicago, it's almost potable
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1446 on: June 17, 2019, 01:59:36 PM »
Old distillers use to collect water sometimes down stream from cattle troughs/crossings
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1447 on: June 17, 2019, 03:13:06 PM »
Properly treated sewage effluent is potable, or close, if they use tertiary.

It can be cleaner than whatever is in the river.

Sort of interesting about desalination plants, they of course dump saltier water back into the ocean, and some fear that causes some enviro impacts.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1448 on: June 18, 2019, 06:47:43 PM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1449 on: June 18, 2019, 11:06:40 PM »
That's a pretty fair article / audio report. Decarbonizing the grid shouldn't be that hard in many parts of the world. The same can be done fairly easily for much of transportation (electric cars, buses, and commercial vehicles, but trucks, ships, and aircraft are difficult). The main challenges are in the industrial sector, agriculture, and miscellaneous areas. But that's just looking at the technological side.

Obviously, politics are a big challenge to overcome, though less so now than ever before (Trump's support of fossil fuels aside). The economics are still challenging in some respects, as well as societal acceptance.

Not to get off topic, but all that said, the scariest thing I read recently was this article: https://www.utilitydive.com/news/utilities-are-the-new-cyber-battlefield-as-us-ramps-up-pressure-on-russi/557052/. Argentina also suffered a massive power outage this week due what is probably a failure in the transmission system, but if WW3 starts, it's probably going to be because the US, Russia, or some other powerful country's electrical grid was hacked.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1450 on: June 29, 2019, 09:17:30 AM »
Europe has issues with regular air pollution, pretty serious issues at times, like LA back in the day.

https://www.caranddriver.es/coches/planeta-motor/calidad-del-aire-espana-2019-ecologistas-en-accion?fbclid=IwAR3Dyq1Q3kmkIZiB_UCTy70fnxOzK-NzGlb__RXMj0TWA302xJkPv8gwG9I

Ironically, this was in part caused by their shift to Diesel circa 1990 in an effort to combat CO2 release.  Diesel is dirtier of course, and some of the automakers learned to cheat the test to make even dirtier cars.  I noticed a brown haze over the sky in Barcelona that was quite prominent, and Paris has had warnings in recent summers and wants to ban Diesel cars in a few years. 

I'd file this under unintended consequences, something like Germany's closure of nuclear power plants only to find now they are burning more coal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2017/10/10/why-arent-renewables-decreasing-germanys-carbon-emissions/#7a53554a68e1
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1451 on: June 30, 2019, 05:35:30 PM »
73 deg sunny,light wesern wind blowing mon/tue low 80's  :party0036:
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1452 on: June 30, 2019, 06:07:02 PM »
I chuckled today that Cincy is hotter than it is here.  In the shade here it is quite nice.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1453 on: June 30, 2019, 10:06:40 PM »
heat index here over 110

over 100 saturday

tough for an old fat guy on the golf course, but I made it
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1454 on: June 30, 2019, 11:36:40 PM »
Am in the Adirondacks for the weekend with family. Had never been. It's yet more special american countryside.

Hope to earn 6 or 7 of the "high peaks" -- maybe 5 tomorrow.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1455 on: July 01, 2019, 06:38:15 AM »
Very hot in southern Europe but the temperatures have dropped some.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/strange-wavy-jet-stream-blasting-europe-heat-scientists-say-could-ncna1024826

The jet stream discussion is interesting I thought.


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