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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1414 on: June 14, 2019, 10:18:14 AM »
I believe we have a new normal, my friend.

MWRDGC needs to get its shit (pun intended) together with the treatments plants here. The boondoggle "deep tunnel" project is years past due and billions over budget. That project was ill-advised from the start.

What Chicago really needed was to separate storm and sanitary sewers. The existing combination sewers could be used for stormwater and then new sanitary mains could be direct-drilled along both sides of each street and the services connected.

How this would work is that the new sanitary mains would be routed to the treatment plants and the existing combo sewers would be diverted to the deep tunnels, for storage and pre-treatment, to remove pollutants (oil, fertilizer, etc.). 

I have a plan for this, which I presented to our local rep, but it has not gone anywhere. It makes too much sense, I reckon.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1415 on: June 14, 2019, 10:21:39 AM »
I also imagine it's expensive and Illinois has no $$$
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1416 on: June 14, 2019, 10:25:14 AM »
Form a committee to review it ... And then go to an opera ...
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« Reply #1417 on: June 14, 2019, 10:39:19 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 14, 2019, 09:43:27 AM
hopefully, the midwest won't see flooding like this for another 100 years or so and things can get back to normal
This spring is like the the movie "Ground Hog Day".Over a week ago they said it's the wettest spring since '86.Since then it's rained everyday but 2.Going to have to replace most of the flowers Cindy planted a month ago
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1418 on: June 14, 2019, 10:42:40 AM »
NW Iowa has set records for the most rainfall in the past 12 months

but, july and august are coming
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1419 on: June 14, 2019, 10:47:52 AM »
I remember we've had very wet springs where the Farmers had to replant.Only to have the weather turn into a drought during July/August and the farmers were left pretty much empty handed.I hope that never happens again
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1420 on: June 14, 2019, 11:03:38 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 14, 2019, 10:21:39 AM
I also imagine it's expensive and Illinois has no $$$
Federal waters, my friend. I'm going to form a committee. I'm sure aren't any yet.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1421 on: June 14, 2019, 05:22:39 PM »
I saw one Indiana farm w corn planted in my drive to WI last week.

Otherwise golden rod as far as the eye could see when not distracted by wind turbines north of Lafayette.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1422 on: June 16, 2019, 12:13:50 PM »
From a WaPo article carried today in the Tulsa World.


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[A]n upstart company, Boston-based Indigo AG, now wants to transform farming practices so that agriculture becomes quite the opposite of what it is today — a major source of greenhouse gas emissions.
By promoting techniques that increase the potential of agricultural land to suck in carbon, the backers of Indigo AG believe they can set the foundation for a major effort to stem climate change. On Wednesday, the company announced a new initiative with the very ambitious goal of removing one trillion tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere by paying farmers to modify their practices.
Called the Terraton Initiative (a “teraton” is a trillion tons), the company forecasts that the initiative to sign up 3,000 farmers globally with more than 1 million acres in 2019.
So, this sounds great.


Only, isn't CO2 really not the big problem?  Isn't it more of a marker for other, more heat-retentive "greenhouse gases" in the atmosphere than the problem itself?

If that's so, all our efforts to reduce CO2 by planting more trees, etc., will have little effect on atmospheric warming, no?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1423 on: June 16, 2019, 01:47:29 PM »
There are several different companies and researchers trying to figure out how to economically make agriculture better environmentally.

As I understand it, some other types of molecules (eg. methane) have greater impact per unit, but there's so much more CO2 than anything else that it has the greatest aggregate impact.

Just found this article which explains it further: https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/CO2-and-global-warming-faq.html
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1424 on: June 16, 2019, 02:50:40 PM »
53 and rainy in Kenosha today. June 16th. June. 16th.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1425 on: June 16, 2019, 04:00:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 16, 2019, 02:50:40 PM
53 and rainy in Kenosha today. June 16th. June. 16th.
Same-same,rinse & repeat,people are starting to look like Zombie's/the Living Dead and those other stoopid shows.Too damn gray for too damn long
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1426 on: June 16, 2019, 05:09:16 PM »
It's getting old. We live for summers on the boat and so far, it's been for shit.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1427 on: June 16, 2019, 05:20:29 PM »
Even too chilly to ski for my kids here in South central indiana
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