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Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1400 on: June 09, 2019, 10:15:43 AM »
Yeah, I live in an urban environment, and the area has made a point of planting trees.  On hot days when walking, it is MUCH appreciated.  A new project near us just cut down something like 15 nice trees and we were unhappy, but supposedly they have to plant two for each one cut, but they will be smaller of course.

Progress.  Quite a few streets are mostly tree lined fortunately.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1401 on: June 09, 2019, 10:25:14 AM »
maybe not as much as trees, but I imagine a cornfield or beanfield would be a benefit

this article is not hopeful

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/co2-atmosphere-planting-trees-oxygen-greenhouse-gas-carbon-dioxide-earth-scientists-climate-change-a8116856.html
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1402 on: June 09, 2019, 10:27:05 AM »
Plants consume CO2, but when they die they rot and release it back into the air, unless they are buried somehow.

A mature forest is basically CO2 neutral.  The oceans are by far the main CO2 sink and oxygen generator.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1403 on: June 09, 2019, 07:44:54 PM »
well, I hear the oceans are rising as the polar ice melts, that might cure things
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1404 on: June 10, 2019, 07:28:44 AM »
The melting of the Arctic Ice cap does not change ocean levels more than a tiny amount.  The melting of glaciers on Greenland does.

Sea ice melt doesn't change sea level.  The ice already displacing the water.  There is a small density/salinity change factor.

I think the story would be more compelling for some folks if it focused on quantifiable metrics like glacier melting over time, things one can see and not dispute, somehow count up all the glaciers in the world for which we have long term data and show the trends.  Maybe one or two are increasing in size.

https://skepticalscience.com/himalayan-glaciers-growing.htm


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1405 on: June 10, 2019, 07:30:09 AM »
my ex-wife made sure my yard looks like a forest
To trick Hansel & Gretel? ;D
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1406 on: June 10, 2019, 10:16:09 AM »
and little Red Riding Hood
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1407 on: June 10, 2019, 12:08:29 PM »
Like everything else (seemingly) these days, you "have to" pick one side or the other.

That's not how I roll, and not how I suspect most here roll. What happened to the middle? Oh right. They are not vocal. And there are a whole lot of them.

I've been called a denier because I ask questions. In my younger days I'd probably have broken a knuckle or two, but I'm much more laid back than I was then.

This climate change stuff is just another in a round of political hot topics. I'm not sure why it has to be about politics though. Seems stupid to me. Then again, most of today's "issues" seems stupid to me.

I'd like to hear from some politician about levee and dam removal, and the subsequent dropping of the FEMA flood insurance program. I suspect for that to happen, however, I'd have to run for office, and win.

Who's with me? I used to inhale, back in the day (transparency intended).
I thought about running for local office a few years back.  And then I thought-- what if I actually get elected???

Sobering thought right there.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1408 on: June 10, 2019, 12:36:41 PM »
welp the Audi e-tron and the MB EV SUVs are finally here and....yup you guessed it....they are both giant pieces of trash. Both struggle to get even 200 miles of actual range, and the few Audi E-trons that have been delivered have already been recalled. Lulz.



refresh of the Tesla Model X SUV expected this fall, and rumors are the range is going to be 400+ miles on the long range.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1409 on: June 10, 2019, 02:35:32 PM »
I thought about running for local office a few years back.  And then I thought-- what if I actually get elected???

Sobering thought right there.
I have a front row seat to it. People only contact their elected officials when they are upset and want something. It takes a special kind of skill to deal with that. And no matter what decision you make, someone won't like it. And when you make a decision that someone doesn't like, you're an idiot, or uncaring, or mean, or...fill in the angry response.

The process is intentionally slow, which no one likes, except when they understand that the reason it's slow is to allow "the people" to weigh in--the whole point in a democracy. People love the opportunity to participate, but they hate that the process takes too long. And they mostly don't connect the two.

And there's a reason that "hot topic" issues are difficult; there are opposing sides with legitimate interests that are at risk, and those sides will fight hard for their interests. As "they" say, it's not the majority that wins in a democracy, it's the motivated and well-organized minority that wins. Why? Because they will fight harder for their direct interests than the majority will fight for something that doesn't directly impact them (or at least not in the same way).

Which is all to say that it's hard work.

On the other hand, the elected is the one at the table making the decisions, which is pretty cool, if you're into that sort of thing.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1410 on: June 10, 2019, 02:44:40 PM »
On the other hand, the elected is the one at the table making the decisions, which is pretty cool, if you're into that sort of thing.
I've been working pretty hard to NOT be into that sort of thing anymore. Almost done.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1411 on: June 11, 2019, 04:09:31 PM »
welp the Audi e-tron and the MB EV SUVs are finally here and....yup you guessed it....they are both giant pieces of trash. Both struggle to get even 200 miles of actual range, and the few Audi E-trons that have been delivered have already been recalled. Lulz.

refresh of the Tesla Model X SUV expected this fall, and rumors are the range is going to be 400+ miles on the long range.
Still watching the Tesla soap opera... Always fun to read comments at Seeking Alpha and then go over to the Tesla Motors Club site and see the same topic discussed with the exact opposite reaction.

Big upcoming events--we'll see Q2 delivery numbers in early July, and Q2 earnings in early August. Both are critical, and Tesla needs to prove not only can they hit delivery targets but that they can do it without huge losses. Bad news on either day will be devastating to the stock price.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1413 on: June 14, 2019, 09:43:27 AM »
hopefully, the midwest won't see flooding like this for another 100 years or so and things can get back to normal
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