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Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1330 on: May 31, 2019, 12:10:55 PM »
I have not seen rain and floods blamed on Climate Change, but I'm sure somebody has.  The droughts were associated with climate change also.

Hurricane intensity has not changed over the years.  There is some suggestion they are moving more slowly which means more rain in an area.

I'm hesitant to associate weather with climate unless said weather persists over decades.
Yeah, a lot of people said that climate change would increase the intensity and number of hurricanes and tornadoes. So far, that has not proven to be evident from actual experience. 

Every time there's a big tornado / flood / hurricane / drought, the climate change alarmists say "look it's happening!" And ever time it gets cold in the winter, the climate change skeptics say "boy, really looks like global warming today, huh?"

Or, in other words, people are dumb. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1331 on: May 31, 2019, 12:20:03 PM »
Here's a pretty good graph on the likelihood that climate change has caused various kinds of sever weather. Excess rainfall is in the middle:




Here's the article if you're interested: https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2019/05/29/climate-change-and-tornadoes-a-succinct-guide-to-what-we-know/#fef5fb7709c2
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1332 on: May 31, 2019, 01:31:19 PM »
DES MOINES, Iowa – (April 30, 2019) – MidAmerican Energy Company this month set a new one-day wind generation record in Iowa for generating electricity that supplied its entire retail customers’ electric usage with renewable energy.

On April 10, company-owned and contracted wind farms generated 111,500 megawatt-hours of energy across the state. MidAmerican Energy’s previous one-day wind generation record, set in January, was 106,000 MWh.

Over the first three weeks in April, the wind farms generated 1,314 gigawatt-hours, supplying 88% of overall customer electric energy consumption during that time frame.

One gigawatt-hour of energy is enough to power approximately 90 homes over the course of a year. So in the first three weeks of April, MidAmerican Energy wind farms generated the amount of energy it takes to power more than 117,000 homes for a year.

“Hitting this record is a milestone for our customers and our company,” Spencer Moore, MidAmerican Energy Company vice president of generation, said. “It shows we’re well on our way to meeting our 100% renewable energy vision, which is to power our Iowa customers’ annual use with renewable sources.”

Last year, the Iowa Utilities Board verified that in 2017, MidAmerican Energy provided its customers with more than half of their electricity from renewable sources.

The company is on track to becoming the first investor-owned electric utility in the nation to generate renewable energy equal to 100% of its customers’ usage on an annual basis, after completing its newest planned 591-megawatt wind energy project by the end of next year. MidAmerican Energy expects to complete the $922-million plan, called Wind XII, at no net cost to its customers.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1333 on: June 01, 2019, 07:23:03 AM »
I have not seen rain and floods blamed on Climate Change, but I'm sure somebody has.  The droughts were associated with climate change also.

Hurricane intensity has not changed over the years.  There is some suggestion they are moving more slowly which means more rain in an area.

I'm hesitant to associate weather with climate unless said weather persists over decades.
Don't know about Hurricane intensity they do seem more frequent though but so are trips to the head in the middle of the night.Well it's mandatory we're just gonna have to hang around for a few more decades to see if your premise comes to fruition

and FF I guess I'd stick with the electric water tank.Hell I just might move there if 847 ever gets off his arse and gitts on that Great Lake he promised - slacker
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1334 on: June 01, 2019, 07:45:38 AM »
There is a measure of hurricane intensity and frequency on the web.  No increase is obvious.

ACE is one suitable metric.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/what-is-accumulated-cyclone-energy/70003045




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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1335 on: June 01, 2019, 07:46:27 AM »
Hard to see a trend, though some cycles are perhaps obvious:


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1336 on: June 01, 2019, 07:56:08 AM »
This does show a trend however:



This figure presents annual values of the Power Dissipation Index (PDI), which accounts for cyclone strength, duration, and frequency. Tropical North Atlantic sea surface temperature trends are provided for reference. Note that sea surface temperature is measured in different units, but the values have been plotted alongside the PDI to show how they compare. The lines have been smoothed using a five-year weighted average, plotted at the middle year. The most recent average (2011–2015) is plotted at 2013.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1337 on: June 02, 2019, 12:58:25 AM »
I think I have read the rainfall anomalies can be expected with climate change, and that initially the corn belt production will become more as climate temps increase in the corn belt, before it becomes less productive.

We are still in the Quaternary Ice Age, and should not speak of the "last ice age," we are still in it. Technically 10,000 years ago as the Pleistocene was ending, that was the most recent "glacial period" of the Quaternary Ice Age. I recall speaking to someone 3-years ago in Alaska at the Alaska State Troopers on a business call, who was very concerned with their warm temperatures for the season, which were warmer than ours. We should be most concerned how weather and climate effects affect Alaska, Greenland and other areas on the far north and south than we are with areas in the temperate zones.

This is from NOAA, for March 2019 anomalies:


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1338 on: June 02, 2019, 07:51:38 AM »
I think it's rained every day here in the past two weeks except for 3.The winter was longer than expected now we're stuck in April.Hopefully we have a nice mellow summer.Seems odd I spent 2 days scrubbing down my gutters,facia,soffiting then two weeks of rain commence bringing debris from the trees.Could use about a week of sunshine folks look like the walking dead with all the cloud cover.Friend said it the most spring rain we've had in 21 yrs
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1339 on: June 02, 2019, 08:17:34 AM »
I wonder how many "climate anomalies" occurred in 1935, or 1835.  These look like "weather anomalies" to me.  Obviously, we have better tracking tools these days.

I remain hesitant to associate even very unusual weather events with climate change until and unless they become prevalent over a decade or more.  We know some weather patterns are cyclic, for reasons unclear in some cases.  


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1341 on: June 05, 2019, 11:22:22 PM »
I wonder if there's ever been a period of optimum temperature.

Would it be where we were 300 years ago, during the Little Ice Age?  Where we were 1800 years ago during the Roman Empire warm period?  Where we were 2500 years ago during the Grecian Empire cold period?

That is not to say that there's nothing to worry about now.

But I don't see that the warnings of a retired Australian admiral necessarily add much to the story.  He could be a guy who wouldn't say something that hadn't thoroughly researched, or he could be an old crackpot who can't let go of the power and influence he had when he was on active duty, and there are plenty of guys like that.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1342 on: June 05, 2019, 11:41:31 PM »
I'll be the first to tell you that climate change is the biggest issue for my lifetime, but exaggerating it doesn't help the cause transitioning to a cleaner economy, as this article explains pretty well.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/29/calling-climate-change-catastrophic-makes-it-harder-to-find-real-answers/
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #1343 on: June 06, 2019, 06:59:23 AM »
It's great to be able to hold a rational discussion on line about this topic.

I am still looking for a practicable plan to make a real change in what is happening.

 

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