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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #966 on: April 12, 2019, 05:32:51 PM »
I think private financing of sports venues is on the rise, fortunately. The interesting thing is it's more common in for soccer and college sports. This article explains it pretty well: https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2018/12/21/no-new-taxes-cities-seeking-new-soccer-specific-stadiums-exhibit-similar-pr-financial-tactics/#328367395e2d

But yes, I did see in that same search that Indiana has passed a bill to pay for a soccer stadium for what isn't currently even an MLS team.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #967 on: April 12, 2019, 05:36:19 PM »
I am annoyed that the Braves moved out of a perfectly fine stadium finished in 1997 and moved to one of the most traffic plagued parts of the city in the NW with no mass transit.

The Falcons got new digs downtown of course paid for in part with a hotel tax.  Money is fungible, the old GA Dome was not exactly decrepit built around 1992.
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« Reply #968 on: April 12, 2019, 05:43:47 PM »
Great Points CD - so I wasn't the only one scratching my head.The country needs to get back to the basics.Taking the wrecking ball to structures designed to last 5-6-7 decades isn't good for a sound economy.Just unbelievably ridiculous
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #969 on: April 12, 2019, 07:00:25 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 12, 2019, 05:43:47 PM
Great Points CD - so I wasn't the only one scratching my head.The country needs to get back to the basics.Taking the wrecking ball to structures designed to last 5-6-7 decades isn't good for a sound economy.Just unbelievably ridiculous
yeah it's getting crazy. it seems like nowadays they want to replace a stadium every 20-25 years. These megastructures were built to last a lot longer then that. Shit look at Michigan/OSU's football stadiums. They were both built in the 1920s and are still around. 
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« Reply #970 on: April 12, 2019, 07:11:17 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 10, 2019, 03:28:30 PM
I thought the Volt was a marvel and hit a sweet spot, but obviously it was not a success in the market, perhaps in part because gas is so cheap.
the Volt and the Bolt were ugly pieces of shit and their complete and utter failure had nothing to due with gas prices and everything to do with GM being a backwards ass thinking company that for the most part still makes shitty products that people don't really want to buy, and just wind up buying because of heavy marketing and great lease deals/pricing.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #971 on: April 12, 2019, 07:37:08 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 12, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
the Volt and the Bolt were ugly pieces of shit and their complete and utter failure had nothing to due with gas prices and everything to do with GM being a backwards ass thinking company that for the most part still makes shitty products that people don't really want to buy, and just wind up buying because of heavy marketing and great lease deals/pricing.
so.... you liked them?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #972 on: April 12, 2019, 09:42:35 PM »
Volt = garbage. One of my harbor mates had one. Couldn't wait to sell it, at 30% of his cost. Garbage.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #973 on: April 13, 2019, 09:43:28 AM »
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/european-renewables-are-up-so-are-carbon-emissions#gs.5drd83

European Union carbon emissions grew 1.8 percent in 2017 despite a 25 percent increase in wind power and 6 percent growth in solar, figures show. The European statistics body Eurostat this month reported that carbon dioxide emissions rose last year in a majority of EU member states.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #974 on: April 13, 2019, 09:46:27 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 12, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
the Volt and the Bolt were ugly pieces of shit and their complete and utter failure had nothing to due with gas prices and everything to do with GM being a backwards ass thinking company that for the most part still makes shitty products that people don't really want to buy, and just wind up buying because of heavy marketing and great lease deals/pricing.
Chevy had a booth at the festival and I looked at a Bolt (again) for fun.  I thought it looked fine, but that is subjective.  I sat it in, decent room in it, I thought the overall layout was fine.  I don't think styling is holding it back.  It comparative cost, even after the $7500 tax credit (which is going away).  
I can get a roughly comparable Chevy Cruise hatchback for about $10,000 less, and the economics don't pay out for a long long time.
For a company that makes "shitty products", GM is doing remarkably well these days.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #975 on: April 13, 2019, 10:06:12 AM »
Last year saw EU member states adding a record 15.6 gigawatts of wind power and 340 megawatts of solar. Wind represented 55.2 percent of all new power generation installed in 2017, with solar making up a further 21.3 percent. 
In contrast, new gas plants accounted for just 9.2 percent of capacity additions, and coal was a further 6.1 percent. Despite this, “the reduction of emissions blamed for climate change remains a challenge,” reported Reuters. "
This is fascinating to me, the added a lot of wind power and a bit of solar and CO2 emissions keep edging higher.  This is basically my point that we're "toast" no matter what, and this is not even bringing China and India into the discussion.  We're going to "run the experiment".

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #976 on: April 13, 2019, 12:13:01 PM »
I'm kind of surprised & disappointed that any coal plants were built. Maybe they're more cost-effective in Europe for some reason?

To your point, someday we'll probably need to deploy carbon capture systems or something similar, though.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #977 on: April 13, 2019, 12:41:32 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 13, 2019, 09:46:27 AM
For a company that makes "shitty products", GM is doing remarkably well these days.
They need to give marketing a big raise.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #978 on: April 13, 2019, 01:21:15 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 12, 2019, 07:00:25 PM
yeah it's getting crazy. it seems like nowadays they want to replace a stadium every 20-25 years. These megastructures were built to last a lot longer then that. Shit look at Michigan/OSU's football stadiums. They were both built in the 1920s and are still around.
Yup Rose Bowl opened up in 1922,Colosseum in 1923.Hell there are still amphitheaters from Greco-Roman times still in use for little productions in/around the mediterranean
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #979 on: April 13, 2019, 01:26:50 PM »
Camp Randall - 1917. Still ticking as the oldest in the Big Ten.
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