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Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #938 on: April 11, 2019, 04:54:17 PM »
The "brand new Boeings" is not quite the attraction is may once have been.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #939 on: April 11, 2019, 04:55:06 PM »
The wife worked for the company that made the engines for the brand new Boeings, which apparently were not implicated.

Those engines technically are pretty neat.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #940 on: April 11, 2019, 05:07:51 PM »
The "brand new Boeings" is not quite the attraction is may once have been.
These are Dreamliners. No problems with those anymore. Apparently the battery thing is fixed.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #941 on: April 11, 2019, 05:08:49 PM »
Norwegian Air has ridiculously cheap direct flights to Paris from a lot of US cities. They have some fares for as low as $145 each way for basic economy. Direct. Non-stop. Their entire fleet is also brand new Boeings. Insane that they are able to sell some tickets that cheap.
Damn. From LAX to Paris, when I start looking at stuff in the fall, it's $400 r/t. That's not bad!

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #942 on: April 11, 2019, 05:11:34 PM »
These are Dreamliners. No problems with those anymore. Apparently the battery thing is fixed.
they have some of the 737 MAX that they use in Europe, but they grounded those.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #943 on: April 11, 2019, 05:13:17 PM »
The "brand new Boeings" is not quite the attraction is may once have been.
Lol. Touche.
They don't fly the 737 MAX in the US though. They only fly from the US to Europe, and those flights are on the Dreamliners. They only fly the 737 Max inside of Europe, but they've grounded those planes.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #944 on: April 11, 2019, 05:16:26 PM »
Yeah, I know the 737 MAX is more short haul trips. 

I received a very interesting review of the LEAP X engines in Paris 4 years or so back.  Fascinating tech.

Our daughter flies over through Ireland and Boston for about $400.  The wife doesn't want to do that.  She's uber loyal to Delta, which fortunately does fly some out of ATL.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #945 on: April 11, 2019, 05:45:12 PM »
It's an N of 1, but we had a TERRIBLE experience on Norwegian flying home from Italy. Some was just basic flying garbage (flight changed from departing at 7 am to 5 am--makes a little difference in your last night there with kids). They charge you for EVERYTHING. Except clean bathrooms...they just didn't offer those. And after charging us for food, they delivered it at the oddest times (it was really, really weird how they did this--I don't remember the details, I just remember how strange and annoying it was), and ran out of vegetarian, despite the specific order (well in advance of the flight), and strung us out in telling us that was what happened to the point where we couldn't get anything delivered to that child because their food service had ended. Add to that flight attendants who were the furthest thing from service oriented. 

I think in the end, it saved us a little money over a major airline, but it wasn't enough to be worth it. Maybe flying as just adults you can accept it all a little better because you're less concerned about the feelings of others, but with a 13- and 11-year old it SUCKED. (The kids handled it fine, but the parents were not happy.)

But the plane was new.

Conversely, we had really good experiences on TAP Portugal (though without the new planes).

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #946 on: April 11, 2019, 06:08:40 PM »
Delta did some amazing things for my wife last year.  I was impressed, and it wasn't because of her status either.

(Her status is that she's married to me, the famous Cincydawg of a billion posts.)

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #947 on: April 11, 2019, 06:58:37 PM »
It's an N of 1, but we had a TERRIBLE experience on Norwegian flying home from Italy. Some was just basic flying garbage (flight changed from departing at 7 am to 5 am--makes a little difference in your last night there with kids). They charge you for EVERYTHING. Except clean bathrooms...they just didn't offer those. And after charging us for food, they delivered it at the oddest times (it was really, really weird how they did this--I don't remember the details, I just remember how strange and annoying it was), and ran out of vegetarian, despite the specific order (well in advance of the flight), and strung us out in telling us that was what happened to the point where we couldn't get anything delivered to that child because their food service had ended. Add to that flight attendants who were the furthest thing from service oriented.

I think in the end, it saved us a little money over a major airline, but it wasn't enough to be worth it. Maybe flying as just adults you can accept it all a little better because you're less concerned about the feelings of others, but with a 13- and 11-year old it SUCKED. (The kids handled it fine, but the parents were not happy.)

But the plane was new.

Conversely, we had really good experiences on TAP Portugal (though without the new planes).
I've flown Norwegian twice, and both times it was just fine. Can't really complain at all. Especially for the price. The time changing might have more to do with Italy then the airline. Nothing runs on schedule in Italy.
Both of my experiences with the airline were just fine. On one of the trips I only paid $179 for the base fare plus another $80 think for their plus package which just lets you pick your seat, check a bag, and get two meals- a dinner and a small breakfast. I paid $229 and another $80 on the way back for the same thing. It was like $570 out the door, round-trip, non-stop direct to Paris. Hard to beat that. Planes were brand new and clean, I picked an aisle seat on exit row. Plenty of room for the legs and they had lot of viewing options on the tv and charge ports in the seat to charge phones/laptops/ipads.
Honestly, to me it wasn't even worth it to pay the upcharge for the seat, bag, and meal. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. They arleady let you carry on a bag up to 15 kg- which is over 30 pounds and if you pack right, that shouldn't be a problem at all. They also let you carry on a backpack and personal item as well. That's plenty of room for all your shit. Plus- I absolutely hate waiting at baggage claim. I much prefer carrying on and getting off the plane and leaving. The food sucks, like it does on every airline and I don't even eat it. I just fricken sleep on long flights like that man. I take a pill and have a shot or two and I'm out. If it's an 8 hr flight I'm sleeping for at least 7 hours of it. The only time I'd need any fancy shmancy is if it's a short flight and I can't sleep and the mind starts wandering. 8-10 hour flights are perfect for me cause I just sleep 95% of them.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #948 on: April 11, 2019, 07:32:22 PM »
I can't sleep on a plane. Even with Xanax. That's not to say I won't try in a couple of weeks. Italy beckons.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #949 on: April 11, 2019, 07:42:00 PM »
I can't sleep on a plane, even in first class.  Maybe with these new fold down seats I could.  But air fare up front is $7000.  No way.

I'll pony for comfort seats but they are getting pricey now.

The good news is that I own a bit of stock in Delta.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #950 on: April 11, 2019, 07:43:40 PM »
Exactly. That's why this is for my dream kitchen... You know, when I can spend $5K+ on a range ;-)
For now, if I *really* want to get a wok ripping hot, I can always use my propane turkey fryer burner on the back porch.
word up.  My turkey fryer burner is like a jet engine.  It shoots through schools.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #951 on: April 12, 2019, 12:13:24 AM »
I remember that movie. That joke didn't age so well.

 

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