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No.  It is clear that the likes of OAF, the liberal mouthpieces and the MSM in this country are politically motivated in what they are saying and how the cast blame.  Very clear... 

I'm only liberal while contained in this far-right echo chamber of a forum.  

Fauci claims Trump took every step he advised.

I still hear nothing about what should be done NOW or why Europe is having worse issues...

Another thing to consider why America might’ve had a problem dealing with this- 

OUR FOOD SUCKS AND OUR HEALTHCARE SUCKS! Lol. 

Millions of people don’t have access to health care- still. And that problem existed long before Trump. 

The bigger problem is the quality of our food & big Agro & FDA. I can tell you first hand food is WAY better and more healthy and more “real” in most European countries than any of the crap we eat in the US. 

And also- we are the fattest, most diabetic, most heart disease stricken nation in the world. Of course a disease like COVID is going to kill us at a higher rate than other countries. Other countries aren’t as grotesquely fat, unhealthy, diabetic, and suffer from heart disease at the rates that we do. 

So let me get this straight....we just shrug when the leader of a country calls COVID a hoax while knowing full-well how dangerous it is.  We shrug and suggest it didn't affect anything when the leader of a country lies about it repeatedly.  We shrug and say we can't attribute one extra death to a leader of a country refusing to acknowledge the facts of the virus, often promoting delusional conspiracy theories about it, day after day.  We shrug when the leader of a country influences the CDC to make false and misleading statements back-and-forth, confusing everyone.  Shrug when he directly conflicts his own medical specialist on the subject.  Shrug while saying in one breath that we have the best medial system in the world and in the other, downplaying having the worst death rates in the world.



Your shoulders must be tired from all that shrugging, all in defense of a failure of a human being some of you don't even plan on voting for. 

He never called the virus a hoax.  He said the Democrats criticism of his handling of it would be the next hoax. It would be the next thing they would use against him.

If he thought it was a hoax why restrict travel from China (which Biden criticized him for)?Why declare a national emergency? Why shut down the economy? Why turn ships into medical facilities?

Why do any of that if you thought it was make believe?

One thing I always marvel at is the desert section of the grocery store. Like just the depth of cakes, cookies, pies, candies. This would be like a rare confections shop 100 years ago, and the Piggly Wiggly in podunk has all of it.

That’s only part of it, we have 30 different fast food places on every corner of every city in the US. There are McDonald’s on every block just a couple miles from each other in most US cities/suburbs.

I’ve rented cars and driven all over Italy and France. They just don’t have this. They have some fast food places, but they aren’t everywhere. It’s usually only inside of the big cities. The suburbs and rural areas there is like zero of it.

You really don’t see that many obese people in Italy or Spain or France. Honestly, very rare to see that. US? There are grotesquely fat people everywhere you go.

I have a very distant relationship to true fast food, and never really eat it at volume. Like much of it doesn't seem like such a calorie bomb, unless you get just a boatload of it (which most people do). On work trips, there's always the interesting question of getting like subway or something local in a small town. Like local is usually the play, but when you chose wrong, all bad.

A part of me wonders about obesity in different kinds of areas. Like I suppose there are fat people in walking-heavy cities, through it feels like the most obesity is concentrated in places that are suburban but also kinda lower middle class. Granted, that's just anecdotal. I'd love to see a study on it.

Rich people are fat too. But you’re right, there is probably a higher % of low-income people that are obese vs high-income. They can afford better food. 

Canned food at Walmart, Coca Cola and other sodas, chocolates, candies and all kinds of sugary cakes and cookies and pies, and of course fast food contributes to us being just a bunch of fat asses.

They also don’t drink soda all day long like a lot of Americans do. I know people who go to fast food places at least once maybe twice a day and they get the large or extra large pepsi or coke and drink that poison all day long. Hell I had an aunt who used to drink about a liter of Pepsi every day just by herself. Those big 1 liter gulps at 7-11- drank one of them every single day.

Show me the stats on the COVID deaths- and show me how many were old as dirt and obese. Bet it’s a crazy # probably 90+%.

I doubt infection rates care about weight, mortality rates, probably.

Yeah, that’s what I said. Show me the deaths and how many of the deaths were nursing home patients or fat disgusting lards with diabetes or heart disease or both. Probably damn near all.

He didn't shut down anything.  He absconded all responsibility (and thus - accountability) and made it fall to the governors.

he didnt abandon anything you nitwit

this is the states' responsibility

it would be unconstitutional for the President to not leave it up to the states