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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9464 on: October 18, 2020, 06:02:06 PM »
Germany has done pretty well to date.  They do have a PhD chemist in charge.  The wife attributes this to the fact they are Germans, which is not a good thing in her mind.

Islands and countries with a social propensity for mask wearing have done pretty well relatively speaking.  The island aspect is obvious, but even Hawaii is struggling to control it with rather draconian steps that have hammered their primary economic engine.

Brazil and India have bad numbers and the real numbers are probably far worse.  The worst and largest slums I've ever seen were in Rio.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9465 on: October 18, 2020, 06:03:47 PM »
Bingo!  Add to that “ science that tells you one week to wear a mask, and the next week not to. 
This isn't exactly true, or really true at all.  SOME "scientists" have argued that mask wearing is not helpful.  They are a minority.

They could be right, I doubt it, but it's possible.  "Science" itself doesn't ever say anything obviously.  Scientists disagree, it's why science is interesting and where science happens.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9466 on: October 18, 2020, 06:07:01 PM »
no political system or political leader worldwide has been able to defeat the virus, except for a couple exceptions.  no not Sweden.  Perhaps Australia, an island nation.

washing hands, social distancing, wearing masks, hoarding toilet paper, and other attempts haven't defeated the virus

the doctors and scientists haven't offered better options, worldwide

I feel recent spikes around the globe are caused by asymptomatic children and young people going back to class and the masses just being tired of staying home after 7 months and venturing out more.

Heck, Cincy even took a short driving trip to NC.
as has been pointed out if the recent spike in positives is from school startup then there shouldnt be s similar spike in hospitalizations and deaths in the weeks to come hopefully
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9467 on: October 18, 2020, 06:07:21 PM »
To be fair to me, my statement was predictive, so asking for what's been cut back is nonsensical. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9468 on: October 18, 2020, 06:16:55 PM »
This isn't exactly true, or really true at all.  SOME "scientists" have argued that mask wearing is not helpful.  They are a minority.

They could be right, I doubt it, but it's possible.  "Science" itself doesn't ever say anything obviously.  Scientists disagree, it's why science is interesting and where science happens.
Do I need to pull out the Fauci videos to prove this?  He himself did this



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pEcgDmEUk



And what Science decided that it was ok to keep liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries open, but not churches?   That the point.   Governors hiding behind “science” .   Too funny.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9469 on: October 18, 2020, 06:18:56 PM »


it is clear this is all political.  We have over 7.5 Million people who have contracted this disease, and survived. And there are estimates that number may be exponentially higher.  When I see the vocal Dems not wearing masks when they are off camera ( or think they are)
and what the MSM covers and doesn’t cover, the credibility off all of this goes right out the window.  I don’t believe much of what any of them has to say.
is it clear that the virus and attempts to defeat it are all political in most other countries worldwide?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9470 on: October 18, 2020, 06:22:30 PM »
is it clear that the virus and attempts to defeat it are all political in most other countries worldwide?
No.  It is clear that the likes of OAF, the liberal mouthpieces and the MSM in this country are politically motivated in what they are saying and how the cast blame.   Very clear...  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9471 on: October 18, 2020, 06:23:40 PM »
Science itself has no voice.  Scientists say various things, and some of them often are wrong.

When they speak with a consensus, it's worth considering whether they are all engaging in group think.  Science is about disagreement, and then steps to check what is right.  I've been to conferences that devolved into old men shouting at each other.

Governors decided what could remain open and what could not.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9472 on: October 18, 2020, 06:24:59 PM »
is it clear that the virus and attempts to defeat it are all political in most other countries worldwide?
The wife listens to French news each morning (along with classical music).  This is being used as a political hammer in France as well.

A French President has much more power than ours does, so he gets the blame for bad things.  He's not very popular right now, but neither are the options.

And he's in office for 6 years I think.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9473 on: October 18, 2020, 06:32:08 PM »
I understand that politicians worldwide will be blamed

I just don't thank any politician on any side or in any country can do much about the spread of the virus or the damage it causes an economy
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9474 on: October 18, 2020, 06:37:21 PM »
I understand that politicians worldwide will be blamed

I just don't thank any politician on any side or in any country can do much about the spread of the virus or the damage it causes an economy
They can't. And it's sad this entire thing has been politicized to the hilt. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9475 on: October 18, 2020, 06:38:21 PM »
I understand that politicians worldwide will be blamed

I just don't thank any politician on any side or in any country can do much about the spread of the virus or the damage it causes an economy
Pretty much agree. ( I will say, the supposed strategy of getting real about lockdowns to flatten the curve was the right move and those in power can, and did , positively impact that).  And it is fair to debate the “ balance” of economic viability versus the spread.

but I don’t think it’s fair or realistic to blame the pandemic on one person or party, and in fact those doing that I’m many cases don’t even believe what they themselves are saying.   They have ulterior motives.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9476 on: October 18, 2020, 06:40:45 PM »
I think a leader could and should  have been more open about encouraging folks to distance and wear masks.

I'm not talking initially when there was a bad mask shortage and health care folks needed them more than us.

We're doing what we can here now, I think, and it could get very bad this winter.  I don't see a viable additional step we could take in the US NOW.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9477 on: October 18, 2020, 06:41:01 PM »
anyone that truly thinks one party is good and the other party is evil is too ignorant for me to discuss the subject with
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