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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Kris60

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9478 on: October 18, 2020, 06:42:12 PM »
I think it is fine to look at the rates of other countries but it really is an apples and oranges comparison. There isn’t another country in the world with 102 international airports. The number of air miles US residents travel each year is nearly double that of the next closest country.  The US is truly the travel hub of the world.

You can’t point to one country on the planet and make a comparison that makes sense.  So when people say with better leadership, or this, or that  the US would have fewer deaths there isn’t a shred of evidence to back that up. I mean, they are allowed to think that, but it’s rampant  speculation.  I could as easily say without impeccable leadership the US death toll would be much worse and the statement would have just as much validity.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9479 on: October 18, 2020, 06:42:39 PM »
anyone that truly thinks one party is good and the other party is evil is too ignorant for me to discuss the subject with

I often liken this to Ohio State fans and Michigan fans.  One side is all good and the other pure evil.  It's human tribalism, and a substitute for critical thinking.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9480 on: October 18, 2020, 06:43:54 PM »
I understand that politicians worldwide will be blamed

I just don't thank any politician on any side or in any country can do much about the spread of the virus or the damage it causes an economy
Me either, but that is a reasonable viewpoint that doesn’t have a political motivation. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9481 on: October 18, 2020, 06:45:36 PM »
I often liken this to Ohio State fans and Michigan fans.  One side is all good and the other pure evil.  It's human tribalism, and a substitute for critical thinking.

that's fine if you're rooting for sports teams or vehicle manufacturers

but, politics is actually fairly important

citizens should do more thinking about this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9482 on: October 18, 2020, 06:50:07 PM »
I often liken this to Ohio State fans and Michigan fans.  One side is all good and the other pure evil.  It's human tribalism, and a substitute for critical thinking.

That's a generalization - I thought you hated all of those.I'd love to return to Woody/Bo,Earle/Bo.When it see-sawed back and forth and was rivalry.Play for a keg in the field next to the abandoned warehouse over by the RR tracks
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9483 on: October 18, 2020, 06:51:22 PM »
anyone that truly thinks one party is good and the other party is evil is too ignorant for me to discuss the subject with
I did mention I'm voting neither - just the issues
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9484 on: October 18, 2020, 06:54:29 PM »
I did mention I'm voting neither - just the issues
unfortunately, we are a very very small minority
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9485 on: October 18, 2020, 06:54:48 PM »
I think a leader could and should  have been more open about encouraging folks to distance and wear masks.
agreed. but at the same time- a leader shouldn't induce panic. there's a delicate balance to strike there.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9486 on: October 18, 2020, 07:06:13 PM »
anyone that truly thinks one party is good and the other party is evil is too ignorant for me to discuss the subject with
What if you think that the whole thing including both parties is filled with certain evil people?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9487 on: October 18, 2020, 07:10:04 PM »
What if you think that the whole thing including both parties is filled with certain evil people?
Because it is. Lol. Both parties are bought and paid for. It's one party.

Like Carlin used to say. 

"It's a big club. And YOU AIN'T IN IT."


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9488 on: October 18, 2020, 07:22:17 PM »
This is why I despise Big Government.  It's inherently corrupt, in all cases, no matter who is President.  I've seen it personally.

The only solution is to limit it's scope and size, and that dog had done run.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9489 on: October 18, 2020, 07:24:53 PM »
What if you think that the whole thing including both parties is filled with certain evil people?
I think the same way
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9490 on: October 18, 2020, 07:30:01 PM »
So let me get this straight....we just shrug when the leader of a country calls COVID a hoax while knowing full-well how dangerous it is.  We shrug and suggest it didn't affect anything when the leader of a country lies about it repeatedly.  We shrug and say we can't attribute one extra death to a leader of a country refusing to acknowledge the facts of the virus, often promoting delusional conspiracy theories about it, day after day.  We shrug when the leader of a country influences the CDC to make false and misleading statements back-and-forth, confusing everyone.  Shrug when he directly conflicts his own medical specialist on the subject.  Shrug while saying in one breath that we have the best medial system in the world and in the other, downplaying having the worst death rates in the world.



Your shoulders must be tired from all that shrugging, all in defense of a failure of a human being some of you don't even plan on voting for.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9491 on: October 18, 2020, 07:30:22 PM »
What if you think that the whole thing including both parties is filled with certain evil people?
This is a certainty.
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