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and the mortality rate is being pumped up by rabid reporting practices

in good news, deaths by the regular flu, pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, and natural causes are way down

of course they are cause instead of considering them as the cause of death coronavirus is listed as the cause of death

oh wait that was your point wasnt it

I am pretty sure he knows that, hence my quote about having the body which is dead.

I was bumfuzzled by your reference to motive.

I don't know the quote.  Who said it, John Dillinger?

https://apple.news/AAzEe9BIcTge-58I3BONYtA

Another study- this one from NY state- suggesting as many as almost 3 million people in NY had Coronavirus. My guess is it’s even more than that. Which is just more confirmation of the Stanford and USC/LA County studies....this thing is NOT that deadly.

What do you know. The leading epidemiologist in Sweden was right. Rest of the world was wrong.

Time to reopen. Immune compromised and old stay inside- everyone else back to normal.

Here's what they say about how deadly it is:

It also means that the fatality rate is likely lower than implied by merely examining confirmed cases and deaths. If 2.7 million people have been infected, that would put the fatality rate at about 0.5%, based on the death count of 15,500 the state used to make its calculation. Since then, the number of deaths in New York has risen to 15,740.

The current death count doesn’t include some people who may have died at home and weren’t diagnosed with Covid-19, and may also miss people who died earlier on in the outbreak before diagnostic testing became widespread.

Note that if you add in the stay-at-home deaths (according to worldometers.info):

New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people at grocery stores across New York State found a 13.9% had coronavirus antibodies, suggesting a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially). Governor Cuomo acknowledged that the official count reported by New York State (which still is not including probable deaths as recommended by the new CDC guidelines) of about 15,500 deaths is "not accurate" as it doesn't account for stay at home deaths. Based on Worldometer's count (which includes probable deaths reported by New York City) of about 21,000 deaths and the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78%

So it's somewhere between 5 to 8 times deadlier than the flu, and believed to be more transmissible to boot. 

Again, let's assume you get to 2009 H1N1 numbers, estimated at 60M cases nationwide. 0.5% to 0.78% gives you a total death range of 300K-468K. 

So your source, the Apple News article, suggests this thing is WAY more deadly than most of what we've dealt with in the past. 

As I said several days ago, due to uncounted cases I thought it was <1% and that we didn't have any strong evidence it was less than 0.3%. But given the numbers coming from NY, I'd say it justifies some pretty significant action.

A person arrested can only be held so long without being charged with a crime.

A writ of habeas corpus ("have the body") is effectively a "show cause" order to the incarcerating authorities to bring the detainee to court, and to either charge him or release him.

I guess the reason Lincoln suspended this is there was alot of shady characters(or political enemies) hiding in the gray area.Basically he out schemed the schemers

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-coronavirus-pelosi-protests-kass-20200423-myi3o2gms5ghjbaxo23h6262xm-story.html

This is the guy we just got mad at over his flurish-filled description of the Michigan order?

Also, lord do I hate the word elite. Just a boogieman of a term.