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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2660 on: April 23, 2020, 02:08:13 PM »
What exactly is martial law?  I know it means suspension of habeas corpus, which sounds scary to me, but what else does it empower?

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/491155-can-the-president-declare-martial-law-in-response-to-coronavirus


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2661 on: April 23, 2020, 02:13:39 PM »
What exactly is habeas corpus.I go along and act like i know and keep quite not wanting to display the obvious.Or the "rit of",when did all these good old boys learn Latin?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2662 on: April 23, 2020, 02:30:45 PM »
I got the motive which is money and the body which is dead.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2663 on: April 23, 2020, 02:37:05 PM »
https://apple.news/AAzEe9BIcTge-58I3BONYtA

Another study- this one from NY state- suggesting as many as almost 3 million people in NY had Coronavirus. My guess is it’s even more than that. Which is just more confirmation of the Stanford and USC/LA County studies....this thing is NOT that deadly.

What do you know. The leading epidemiologist in Sweden was right. Rest of the world was wrong.

Time to reopen. Immune compromised and old stay inside- everyone else back to normal.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2664 on: April 23, 2020, 02:38:19 PM »
We haven't had one since about 2005. I got rid of my office phone about 3-4 years ago too. Nobody ever called on that line.

People always used my cell anyway, as I've had the same cell phone number since 1996.

That number's area code is 847. Random factoid and not a coincidence.
well, badgerfan has too many digits to be the remainder of the phone number
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2665 on: April 23, 2020, 02:43:03 PM »
Americans want to do the right thing

strongarming should only be used as a last resort


I'd  go with some or many Americans

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2666 on: April 23, 2020, 02:48:25 PM »
This whole thing was based off of models that have been way wrong

A lot of Americans recognize this and have had enough
Facts. 

I think in the end, all this thing will do is bring American people together in the realization that the mainstream media is absolutely useless and fake, and that politicians are ineffective and corrupt. 

My sincere hope is this thing breaks the back of the mainstream media and their ratings and revenues go into such decline that they start actually doing their job- and that corrupt career politicians on both sides like Pelosi or McConnell will be overthrown. I really hope a movement comes a long and takes over the Democratic and Republican parties and shifts them both in a different direction. We will never have a third party, so the only way for real change to happen is for movements lead by the people to hijack the parties establishment and progress them forward.    

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2667 on: April 23, 2020, 02:51:17 PM »
You're acting like this is over.  Don't worry, the deaths will continue.  Then they'll wane.  Then they'll swell.  A roller-coaster of death.  Enjoy.
They will swell PRECISELY because of the idiotic complete lockdowns that are NOT evidence based. 

Sweden got it right and will be close to herd immunity when we will be having waves and waves of this shit. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2668 on: April 23, 2020, 02:53:24 PM »
What could have altered the trajectory of the spread?  :57:
The spread is actually not that relevant. How often does this thing kill is what is most relevant. The true mortality rate is what is important. The models were WAY off on the mortality rate. All of them. Way. Off.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2669 on: April 23, 2020, 02:54:48 PM »
The models are fine, they are standard models.  The inputs were faulty, because this is a novel virus about which we know little.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2670 on: April 23, 2020, 02:59:11 PM »
and the mortality rate is being pumped up by rabid reporting practices

in good news, deaths by the regular flu, pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, and natural causes are way down 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2671 on: April 23, 2020, 03:04:13 PM »
 The true mortality rate is what is important. The models were WAY off on the mortality rate. All of them. Way. Off.
From people I've talked to regarding Hospitals and Nursing facilities HERE,that would be correct - so far.I know our Governor got out front quickly 5 weeks ago.So Ohioans by& large have been sticking with procedure.I'm just questioning if it hasn't reached here full force,or the measures work or it clips the sick and weak.I believe we systematically go back to work in increments and follow rules in place
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2672 on: April 23, 2020, 03:04:22 PM »
I don't really trust any of the numbers, seriously.  Deaths can be over or under reported easily.  Confirmed cases?  There appear to be many unconfirmed cases extant.

The antibody tests appear to be coming in around the same figure, 15-20% infected at some point.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2673 on: April 23, 2020, 03:05:02 PM »
What exactly is habeas corpus.I go along and act like i know and keep quite not wanting to display the obvious.Or the "rit of",when did all these good old boys learn Latin?
A person arrested can only be held so long without being charged with a crime.

A writ of habeas corpus ("have the body") is effectively a "show cause" order to the incarcerating authorities to bring the detainee to court, and to either charge him or release him.
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