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Topic: OT - Weird History

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6888 on: August 19, 2026, 11:24:14 AM »
I'm a little amused by the tank nerd discussion about tank-on-tank warfare because that is a historical anomaly. Significant tank-on-tank battles have been rare. Outside of the handful of 75mm Sherman on Panzer engagements in France, the most common winner of the tank-on-tank battle is the one that had the first opportunity to aim its shot.
This is somewhat analogous to the battleship -v- battleship battles.  I think there were seven in WW 2, maybe 8, out of hundreds or thousands of other engagements.

The Bismark is the most famous, but that probably only happened because of biplanes.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6889 on: August 19, 2026, 11:57:28 AM »
This is somewhat analogous to the battleship -v- battleship battles.  I think there were seven in WW 2, maybe 8, out of hundreds or thousands of other engagements.

The Bismark is the most famous, but that probably only happened because of biplanes.
I think it is a little different in that Battleships were originally designed to fight other Battleships but then rarely did first because their immense cost made them too valuable to risk and later because the increasing accuracy and payload of carrier-based aircraft made BB vs BB combat unnecessary.  

It is interesting that the entire Iowa Class, America's most advanced Battleships never actually traded fire with an enemy Battleship.  They would have off of Samar of course if Halsey hadn't left the northern flank of the Luzon invasion fleet completely open but even there it would only have been with one of the Yamato Class but even there it is telling that it was only one because the other one had been sunk the day before by Halsey's planes.  

Tanks were not originally designed to fight other tanks.  In the interwar period all militaries had Tank Destroyers.  The thinking was that Tanks would go "over the top" to support infantry but they were armed to take out pill boxes and such, not other tanks.  Experience showed in WWII that they needed to be able to fight other tanks but as @SFBadger96 referenced most tank kills still came from aircraft, artillery, and panzerfausts/bazookas NOT other tanks.  

The shaped charge made it possible for a light weapon carried by infantry to take out a tank.  I have a general idea of what a shaped charge is but I do not understand the physics behind it.  

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6890 on: Today at 09:10:42 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

Infamous Menendez Brothers Murder Their Parents (1989)
The trials of Lyle and Erik Menendez for the cold-blooded murders of their parents in their Beverly Hills mansion captivated the nation. The "bereaved" sons initially escaped suspicion, but in the months after the murders, they went on a spending spree with their parents' money, to the tune of over $1 million, that raised a few eyebrows.
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #6891 on: Today at 09:26:57 AM »
Good grief, I was positive I remembered that ordeal sometime in the back half of the 90's.  I thought you mistyped (or somebody did).....that couldn't have happened in 1989.  Nope, sure did......they weren't sentenced until 1996, which is what I'm thinking of.

Took long enough.  

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« Reply #6892 on: Today at 04:36:01 PM »
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