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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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GopherRock

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40208 on: November 22, 2024, 02:23:00 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on November 22, 2024, 02:09:47 PM
I think most businesses will learn to police themselves to avoid this


No they won't. Not unless there is a major change in the penalty structures.

I see it all the time in my weigh station work. It's cheaper to pay overweight fines on a lot of cargo, even top-of-scale fines, than it is to run at legal weight. And what little fines that get collected don't fund either enforcement or restitution.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40209 on: November 22, 2024, 02:26:59 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 22, 2024, 02:06:19 PM

[img width=461.993 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/qxQBC5W.png[/img]


Undocumented/unauthorized is the term used for this data. I believe this is wildly inaccurate
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« Reply #40210 on: November 22, 2024, 02:30:18 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on November 22, 2024, 02:23:00 PM
No they won't. Not unless there is a major change in the penalty structures.

I see it all the time in my weigh station work. It's cheaper to pay overweight fines on a lot of cargo, even top-of-scale fines, than it is to run at legal weight. And what little fines that get collected don't fund either enforcement or restitution.
all ICE has to do is raid restaurant chains, home builders and packing plants and the message would go out loud and strong
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« Reply #40211 on: November 22, 2024, 02:41:49 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on November 22, 2024, 02:26:59 PM
Undocumented/unauthorized is the term used for this data. I believe this is wildly inaccurate
The term or the data? If it's the data, what data are you relying on?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40212 on: November 22, 2024, 02:44:47 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on November 22, 2024, 01:12:02 PM
Technology and data have changed this slightly.

If you don't believe that there's beyond reasonable data kept about every person through dozens upon dozens of data sources, then i encourage you not to dig more into it and live a more peaceful life.
I'm sure there are lengthy files on me personally, but I can't use them to prove citizenship.  I still don't know how ICE can distinguish between "Juan" who was born in El Pase, and "Juan" who crossed the border illegally ten years back and not run afoul of the law at any other point.
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« Reply #40213 on: November 22, 2024, 02:45:45 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2024, 02:10:44 PM
Trump tried to fix it and was roundly blocked time after time.
He also blocked a bill because he knew it was a major point in his campaign.  All politicians have failed this issue forever
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« Reply #40214 on: November 22, 2024, 02:46:26 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 22, 2024, 12:49:55 PM
What's the profile?
Does no one want to answer this question?
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« Reply #40215 on: November 22, 2024, 02:48:17 PM »
Quote from: jgvol on November 22, 2024, 01:14:44 PM
If we really want to fix the problem -- everybody is going to have to put their hearts on a shelf for a couple years.

Get things under control, and then put your heart back in your chest, but use it only after using your brain to properly, and extensively, vet --- any, and all, LEGAL migrants only.
If people are willing to pay for it, might work out. But once most of society starts taking it in the wallet, things change quickly.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40216 on: November 22, 2024, 02:49:18 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 22, 2024, 02:46:26 PM
Does no one want to answer this question?
Only folks who look a certain way can immigrate illegally. 

as long as you look the right way, citizenship, worries are waived
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« Reply #40217 on: November 22, 2024, 02:50:16 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 22, 2024, 02:45:45 PM
He also blocked a bill because he knew it was a major point in his campaign.  All politicians have failed this issue forever
Thats a dem talking point not the reason he was for blocking the bill
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40218 on: November 22, 2024, 02:53:18 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 22, 2024, 02:46:26 PM
Does no one want to answer this question?
"The profile" generally is going to be Hispanic looking Spanish speaking individuals (some of whom were born here).
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« Reply #40219 on: November 22, 2024, 03:19:06 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on November 22, 2024, 02:48:17 PM
If people are willing to pay for it, might work out. But once most of society starts taking it in the wallet, things change quickly.

I’m willing to find out.  


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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40220 on: November 22, 2024, 03:23:38 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 22, 2024, 02:41:49 PM
The term or the data? If it's the data, what data are you relying on?
The data. That data tries to make the claim there were more illegals in the US from 2005 to 2016 than the last 4 years. I have a billion dollar gold mine in my back yard to sell you if you believe that to be true. 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40221 on: November 22, 2024, 03:26:45 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on November 22, 2024, 03:23:38 PM
The data. That data tries to make the claim there were more illegals in the US from 2005 to 2016 than the last 4 years. I have a billion dollar gold mine in my back yard to sell you if you believe that to be true.
It could be true if "we" called them illegals back then, and now call them undocumented.
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