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Gigem

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« Reply #18578 on: August 13, 2022, 12:06:09 AM »
what is the upside or impact on the average human?

I know we got Teflon from the space program and I appreciate that

It’s a paradigm shift. It gets space out of the domain and control of the govt and into the hands of business and other non-govt entities. 

for example, the list of humans that have gone into space is numbered into the hundreds. About 500-600. For the last 60+ years. And most of those people have flown on govt rockets. But now there is a trickle of people who are flying on commercial rockets. Fwiw I do not consider Jeff Bezos and Blue Origins New Shepard rocket to be a true space experience. It’s really a toy.  A really neat, but useless toy. 

600 people in 60 years.  I’m betting that number will double by the end of this decade and the majority will be on private rockets. 

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« Reply #18579 on: August 13, 2022, 12:15:18 AM »
Northrop Grumman flies a supply capsule to the ISS called Cygnus. The rocket, called Antares, uses Russian engines and a Ukrainian upper stage. They are also partnering with SX to send up a few flights and then they’re going to start sending them up on a new, upgraded rocket they’re building with another new space company called Firefly. 

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« Reply #18580 on: August 13, 2022, 06:19:10 AM »
It’s a paradigm shift. It gets space out of the domain and control of the govt and into the hands of business and other non-govt entities.

for example, the list of humans that have gone into space is numbered into the hundreds. About 500-600. For the last 60+ years. And most of those people have flown on govt rockets. But now there is a trickle of people who are flying on commercial rockets. Fwiw I do not consider Jeff Bezos and Blue Origins New Shepard rocket to be a true space experience. It’s really a toy.  A really neat, but useless toy.

600 people in 60 years.  I’m betting that number will double by the end of this decade and the majority will be on private rockets.
I wonder what the death rate will be in the next decade compared to NASA's.  I bet it's higher.
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« Reply #18581 on: August 13, 2022, 07:06:37 AM »
What's a "basement?"


It's a place for kids to play when it's cold, snowy and cloudy for 6 months.
Watch it Buster,that's ground zero from Sept thru the Holidays just got a 65 '' for down there.Same old Chief Wahoo easy chair though.Almost pulled the pin on a Kegerator Purchase but that could be problematic
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #18582 on: August 13, 2022, 07:10:05 AM »
Depends on the magnitude.  Anything 5.0 on the Richter Scale or less, it's probably still one of the safest places to be (especially due to less chance of broken glass).  When you get above 5.0 though, now you are getting into the area where there is a chance that you are receiving enough structural damage for a partial floor collapse.  At that point, a first floor bathroom door jam, bathtub, or even under a kitchen table is your likely best source of shelter.
I'll remember that should the occasion ever arise. I've got an Amish Brute
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« Reply #18583 on: August 13, 2022, 07:14:14 AM »
Well I speak Spanish so I know....
Latin American for SIR?
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« Reply #18584 on: August 13, 2022, 08:36:33 AM »
It’s a paradigm shift. It gets space out of the domain and control of the govt and into the hands of business and other non-govt entities.

for example, the list of humans that have gone into space is numbered into the hundreds. About 500-600. For the last 60+ years. And most of those people have flown on govt rockets. But now there is a trickle of people who are flying on commercial rockets. Fwiw I do not consider Jeff Bezos and Blue Origins New Shepard rocket to be a true space experience. It’s really a toy.  A really neat, but useless toy.

600 people in 60 years.  I’m betting that number will double by the end of this decade and the majority will be on private rockets.
I agree with this...
How will this affect the folks on this message board?
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« Reply #18585 on: August 13, 2022, 09:16:05 PM »
You could get internet service from Starlink, which is a constellation of satellites that orbit much lower than traditional internet satellites and provide high speed with low latency. 

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« Reply #18586 on: August 13, 2022, 09:19:02 PM »
In the somewhat distant future, say 10+ years, you could book a trip and fly into space. Maybe even around the moon, or possibly land on the moon. It would still be expensive, but perhaps in the hundreds of thousands of dollars or maybe low millions. 

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« Reply #18587 on: August 14, 2022, 12:24:23 AM »
internet service from Starlink sucks today

flying into space isn't a deal for most. Cincy might try it for $100,000

the space program isn't worthless but....
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« Reply #18588 on: August 14, 2022, 11:47:43 AM »
Do you have first hand experience with starlink? Because I know several people who have it and they say it works great. It is subject to periods with no service, but they are still building it out. It’s not meant for urban environments, but places that do not have internet stall or very limited options. 

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« Reply #18589 on: August 14, 2022, 11:54:51 AM »
I do not.

I was an internet provider for 20 years.
Starlink is a competitor to many of my customers today

yes, with any satellite such as Direct TV or Dish Network, there will be outages related to weather.

upstream speeds are not good with most satellite internet services, perhaps Starlink is better.

there is also a lag in latency - gamers don't appreciate latency

a fiber connection is always the best option, but I understand that's not feasible in some remote rural areas
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« Reply #18590 on: August 14, 2022, 12:19:46 PM »
I do not.

I was an internet provider for 20 years.
Starlink is a competitor to many of my customers today

yes, with any satellite such as Direct TV or Dish Network, there will be outages related to weather.

upstream speeds are not good with most satellite internet services, perhaps Starlink is better.

there is also a lag in latency - gamers don't appreciate latency

a fiber connection is always the best option, but I understand that's not feasible in some remote rural areas

There's no fiber available in my neighborhood located in a suburb of one of the major high tech cities in the entire world.

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« Reply #18591 on: August 14, 2022, 12:32:43 PM »
yup, most politicians think the digital divide is poor in nrural areas, but the vast majority og people that don't have decent internet service is in major metropolitan areas served by the big phone companies such as Century Link, now named Lumen and probably AT&T in Austin.

Those huge companies don't reinvest money in their outside plant (Fiber optic) like smaller companies 
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