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We had a nice lunch on the top deck of a restaurant today, it was sunny and warm, and then cloudy and the wind would pick up and be chilly, and the sunny and warm again.

Traffic has really picked back up.  I was spoiled for a while.  Even the side streets are often jammed.

I'm going to plant tomatoes tomorrow.

I always tell my partners, today isn't the day to break 80, the windy day is the time to break 100

Try casting your fly fishing match the hatch nymphs in that,luckily I don't fly fish 😎

For what it's worth--and I'm unlikely to be drawn very far into this--the point of my earlier post is not that any one person is racist, or that using that phrase is inherently racist, but that the use of phrases like that one has negative consequences--at the very least potential for negative consequences, without any contrary positive attributes. If using the phrase is hurtful to Asian Americans (in the case of the piece I posted, my high school classmate's feelings are hurt), why use it? Because the Spanish Flu--from 100 years ago--also has a geography in one of the common ways to refer to it?

While you may bristle at her opinion (you certainly bristle at mine), her very real perspective, as a resident of northern Virginia is this (verbatim from her Facebook post): 
"I'm Chinese and terrified for myself, my family & community. Today on the blog I'm asking for your help to be an ally to me and my fellow Asians."

It is true that there is no direct evidence (that I'm aware of) tying the Atlanta shooting to COVID-19 or even, necessarily, racism. It is also true that since the advent of the pandemic, anti-Asian hate crimes are way up in the United States. That being the case, why continue to use this term?

Badge--I appreciate your willingness to reconsider the term.

This isn't "cancel culture," it's decency (empathy) for your fellow Americans. You can use whatever term you like, but there are good reasons not to.

I'd also think a person who attacks an Asian because anyone calls it the "Chinese virus" has other issues, and may need little to cause them to attack someone who looks different from them.  I'm sure none of us thought "Oh, China flu, let's go roust some Asians".  It makes zero sense.

VERIFY: Anti-Asian hate crimes rising during COVID-19 pandemic | abc10.com

The Center for Study of Hate & Extremism published a report documenting changes in hate crime patterns in 2020 in 16 American cities. In those 16 cities, which include most of the United States’ largest cities, anti-Asian hate crimes rose by 149% in 2020 while overall hate crimes dropped by seven percent.
In 2019, there were 49 documented cases of hate crimes with anti-Asian bias in those 16 cities, while in 2020 there were 122 such cases. The total number of hate crimes documented in those cities was 1,845 in 2019 and 1,717 in 2020.
While the sample size is small, the increase is clearly there. That’s more than double the number of hate crimes from the year before.
Normally, the FBI compiles the data on hate crimes across the United States, but they don’t publish their annual report until November of the following year. That means we have their 2019 data, but not their 2020 data.

That isn't much of a base size on which to base firm conclusions, and the vast majority of hate crimes had nothing to do with Asians.  

For what it's worth--and I'm unlikely to be drawn very far into this--the point of my earlier post is not that any one person is racist, or that using that phrase is inherently racist, but that the use of phrases like that one has negative consequences--at the very least potential for negative consequences, without any contrary positive attributes. If using the phrase is hurtful to Asian Americans (in the case of the piece I posted, my high school classmate's feelings are hurt), why use it? Because the Spanish Flu--from 100 years ago--also has a geography in one of the common ways to refer to it?

While you may bristle at her opinion (you certainly bristle at mine), her very real perspective, as a resident of northern Virginia is this (verbatim from her Facebook post):
"I'm Chinese and terrified for myself, my family & community. Today on the blog I'm asking for your help to be an ally to me and my fellow Asians."

It is true that there is no direct evidence (that I'm aware of) tying the Atlanta shooting to COVID-19 or even, necessarily, racism. It is also true that since the advent of the pandemic, anti-Asian hate crimes are way up in the United States. That being the case, why continue to use this term?

Badge--I appreciate your willingness to reconsider the term.

This isn't "cancel culture," it's decency (empathy) for your fellow Americans. You can use whatever term you like, but there are good reasons not to.

SF- I personally agree with this entire post.

furthermore if I Ever were to personally witness racial hate in person or on social media or texts with the circles I run in, I would personally try to stop it at the source including putting myself in physical danger.  That’s how strongly I feel about it and why I don’t use that terminology. 

hopefully, you understood from my post -what I have objected to is when hate crimes are called hate crimes, but there’s really no evidence to support that they are actually racially motivated in anyway shape or form. Looking at some of the statistics and posts just before this one, I wonder who and how they decide if something is a hate crime.

I saw a video yesterday of a black man sucker punching a white police officer and breaking his jaw. Was that a hate crime? I don’t know for sure but I highly doubt it as it was a charged situation with drugs involved. Unfortunately if the colors were reversed there would be many including the Talking Heads who would be calling it a hate crime.  That is the main point I was making. Followed by the harm that is doing to the real cause of eliminating racial tension. That accusation has been so often thrown out there where it obviously does not exist- folks are becoming numb to it.  And that is sad. 

Deadly hate crime levels surge in latest FBI reporting - CNNPolitics

"Surge", note the use of that word here.

The latest report found that 7,314 criminal hate crime incidents were reported to the FBI in 2019, an increase of 194 incidents since 2018.

Now, imagine your basketball team averaged 73 points this year up from 71 points last year.  Would you consider that a "surge" in offensive production?

I have learned to distrust headlines, news from an unnamed highly placed person who should know, and FB memes.

And of course folks from Eastern Michigan.