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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2

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TyphonInc

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2018, 12:20:21 PM »
2 of us have the Bucks at #2
page 2 voters... :73:

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2018, 12:48:58 PM »
I don't feel tardy
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2018, 04:03:36 PM »
So looking at the charts, it's unanimous that OSU is #1, 'cept for that one @ss who has them at 3?
Who could that be?  LoL
As Fearless pointed out, after I did the compilation there were two votes for tOSU at #2.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2018, 04:07:31 PM »
page 2 voters... :73:
Tell me about it!  I have to go redo the compilation.  
I already added @FearlessF and @Benthere2 and I have now added @Anonymous Coward .  
Anonymous voted Minnesota #12 which is their new lowest vote and he voted Purdue #9 which is their new highest vote.  His vote also broke the 13/14 tie between Rutgers and Illinois so that Rutgers is back to being alone in 13th and Illinois is back to being alone in 14th.  Other than that, no significant changes so I will not be posting a new compilation but these late votes are included in the totals used going forward such that Ohio State no longer has a 1.00 average.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2018, 04:15:57 PM »
B1G-E compared to B1G-W:
  • East 1.12, West 1.94:  East by 0.82
  • East 2.94, West 5.53:  East by 2.59
  • East 4.65, West 9.59:  East by 4.94
  • East 5.35, West 9.65:  East by 4.30
  • East 6.76, West 9.88:  East by 3.12
  • East 8.88, West 12.35:  East by 3.47
  • East 13.24, West 13.29:  East by 0.05

Obviously a lot will change over the course of the season but at present we appear to believe that the East is substantially stronger, particularly in the middle where the East's third, fourth, and fifth best teams (M, MSU, UMD) are ranked far ahead of the West's third, fourth, and fifth best teams (MN, UNL, NU).  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2018, 04:17:18 PM »
I'd recommend moving the deadline until Noon Tuesday, and shutting it down after that.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2018, 04:20:13 PM »
I'd recommend moving the deadline until Noon Tuesday, and shutting it down after that.
Why so early?

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2018, 04:25:17 PM »
He likes to compile on Monday as it stands now, and I'm suggesting bumping that out to Noon on Tuesday. Then he can compile just one time instead of 6 times. It's a lot of work for him.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2018, 04:27:03 PM »
B1G-E compared to B1G-W:
  • East 1.12, West 1.94:  East by 0.82
  • East 2.94, West 5.53:  East by 2.59
  • East 4.65, West 9.59:  East by 4.94
  • East 5.35, West 9.65:  East by 4.30
  • East 6.76, West 9.88:  East by 3.12
  • East 8.88, West 12.35:  East by 3.47
  • East 13.24, West 13.29:  East by 0.05

Obviously a lot will change over the course of the season but at present we appear to believe that the East is substantially stronger, particularly in the middle where the East's third, fourth, and fifth best teams (M, MSU, UMD) are ranked far ahead of the West's third, fourth, and fifth best teams (MN, UNL, NU).  
That fits our longstanding bias. I think it's probably based in reality, but I do wonder if we'll be accidentally slow to appreciate it *when* the west eventually lifts itself. 

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2018, 04:31:46 PM »
I'd recommend moving the deadline until Noon Tuesday, and shutting it down after that.
I hadn't noticed that. Sorry, medina if that's been a drag. Tuesday seems tough, though. I actually thought I had voted early this week.

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2018, 04:58:18 PM »
Week three is the last week before most teams start playing conference games every week.  In week three #5 MSU is off while the other 13 B1G teams each have OOC match-ups.  Next week #11 NU is off while there are five conference games (10 teams) and the other three have OOC match-ups.  Looking at this week's match-ups:
  • Ohio State travels to Jerry-World in Arlington Texas to play what was originally supposed to be a TCU home game.  The Horned Frogs are ranked #15 and they are the only ranked B1G opponent this week so this is the game-of-the-week pretty much by default.  TCU is a tough enough opponent that the Buckeyes could lose and also a good enough opponent that the Buckeyes have an opportunity to prove something which they really didn't their first two times out.  
  • Wisconsin hosts BYU.  When scheduled this and last year's match-up were supposed to be Wisconsin's "marquee" OOC games for the years but it hasn't worked out that way.  BYU was awful last year and so far this year they look even worse.  They squeaked past an Arizona team that then got mauled by Houston then lost to a California team whose other game was a close win over perennial Bottom Ten resident UNC.  
  • Penn State hosts perennial Bottom Ten resident State of Kent in a game that provides the Nittany Lions no opportunity to prove anything.  If you are wondering why Kent is currently out of the bottom ten it is because they beat an FCS foe last week.  Don't worry, they'll be back.  
  • Michigan hosts perennial Bottom Ten resident SMU in a tune-up.  
  • MSU is off which is only marginally easier than the games most of the conference is playing this week.  
  • Iowa hosts Northern Iowa in a game they certainly shouldn't lose, but it is Iowa and they seem to be good at finding ways to win at least one they shouldn't win and lose at least one they shouldn't lose every year.  
  • Maryland hosts Temple which is 0-2 and on the Bottom 10 waiting list.  
  • Indiana hosts State of Ball which is no stranger to the Bottom 10 and whose lone victory this year was over an FCS foe in week one.  State of Ball did manage to finish within eight points of the Irish last week but that took a FG with 1:30 to go so it isn't like they were competitive throughout.  
  • Minnesota hosts Miami, OH which is also no stranger to the Bottom 10.  
  • Nebraska hosts Troy and as sad as this is, I think that Troy is probably the third best team any of the B1G is playing this week.  
  • Northwestern hosts Akron and if there isn't too much lightning hopefully they'll actually play!
  • Purdue hosts Mizzou this week and I'm thinking that if they can't win this one their bowl hopes will be gone before the end of September.  
  • Rutgers travels to Kansas this week.  They are the only B1G team with a true road game this week but it is Kansas and the Jayhawks have been a near-permanent resident in the Bottom 10 for years.  
  • Illinois hosts South Florida this week.  The Illini are 2-0 but we still have them in 14th place.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2018, 05:04:38 PM »
I hadn't noticed that. Sorry, medina if that's been a drag. Tuesday seems tough, though. I actually thought I had voted early this week.
Eh, it is ok.  I prefer to have the votes by Monday if possible but adding in a straggler or two isn't all that bad.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2018, 05:05:57 PM »
If anyone can handle a spreadsheet related curve ball, it's Medina.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2018, 05:09:21 PM »
That fits our longstanding bias. I think it's probably based in reality, but I do wonder if we'll be accidentally slow to appreciate it *when* the west eventually lifts itself.
Illinois was 0-3 against the East last year (0-6 against the West)
Iowa was 1-2 (4-2)
Minnesota was 0-3 (2-4)
Nebraska was 1-2 (2-4)
Northwestern was 2-1 (5-1)
Purdue was 1-2 (3-3)
Wisconsin was 3-0 (6-0)

Only NU and UW had a winning record against the East, so yeah, there is work to be done. Looking at you, Nebraska, and you, Iowa, in particular. Although Iowa did have that 1 win against the East that probably kept the B1G out of the playoff last year...

The divisions look fairly even at the very top, although OSU is considered elite and UW is not. From there, I'd say it's still fairly even at the #2/3 spots (Iowa and NU in the West, PSU and MSU in the East). From there it kinda gets REALLY ugly though, until you get down to the very bottom (UI and RU) of each division. Those are mid-level MAC teams, at best.
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