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Topic: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)

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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #182 on: November 26, 2019, 08:51:35 PM »
OU's trick play must not have worked, because I don't remember it.

OU was offense-challenged in 2001.

14-3 win over Texas, and that included the Roy "Superman" Williams hit on Chris Sims that caused the deflection to Ted Lehmen for a gift TD.

That 10-20 loss to the Huskers.

13-16 loss to oSu in Norman.

10-3 win over Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl.  Back when Arkansas was fielding a varsity team.
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #183 on: November 26, 2019, 08:57:55 PM »
solid defense
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #184 on: November 26, 2019, 09:03:39 PM »
solid defense
Might have been Bob's best.  2003 was pretty monstrous too.
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #185 on: November 26, 2019, 09:15:30 PM »
2003 Pelini's defense was a step up for Solich, but gave up 38 at home to KSU.

No shot at the Sooners in Arrowhead and cost Solich his job

Sooners give up 21 to LSU in the Suga, but 7 was a pick 6
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2019, 09:25:45 PM »
has the U of Wisconsin athletic department put on a serious campaign to promote Taylor?  Does Taylor do enough interviews?

Has Chryst and the O-coordinator done enough to showcase his talents?

how many receptions?  can he throw a decent halfback pass?  and other trick plays that capture the imagination of the audience?  Punt returns, KO returns?
UW does not do bubble gum things for anyone. UW is Big Red, and that is all UW needs and wants to be. They BARELY did anything to promote the Great Dayne.
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2019, 09:28:36 PM »
honorable, but gives Taylor a slim chance
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #188 on: November 27, 2019, 07:23:35 AM »
I wonder how much a hype campaign helps a player.  If he is not in any conversation anywhere, it MIGHT get him a trifle of notice, but won't help him win unless he's really putting up numbers (which would get him attention anyway).  It still seems to me like an award given for most and gaudiest appearances on SC and how much "difference" you made for your team as assessed by the voters.  

Burrow appears to have turned LSU's offense from moribund to fantastic.  We all know he didn't do it alone, but he does appear to have been that missing piece.


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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #189 on: November 27, 2019, 08:07:08 AM »
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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #190 on: November 27, 2019, 08:25:18 AM »
I wonder how much a hype campaign helps a player. 
Considering the Award is to best exhibit outstanding performance,ability,diligence & integrity.Manziel,Winston and even Newton and Baker hardly epitomize all those virtues which the award at one time held dear.So sadly ya lots of hype


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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #191 on: November 27, 2019, 08:46:23 AM »
usually the Hypesman winner has had at least one if not a few big time highlight plays


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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #192 on: November 27, 2019, 09:18:48 AM »
A lot of hype is not the same as a hype campaign, I think.  A lot of hype is needed, I wonder if the latter makes any impact.

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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #193 on: November 27, 2019, 10:45:23 AM »
this is true, but you don't have to be a huge promoter, just encourage the kid to get behind the podium, do interviews, get his mug on the cover of a magazine

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Re: And the Lions are Hungry, But All They See is Poisoned (SOC 11/23/19)
« Reply #194 on: November 27, 2019, 11:57:55 AM »
The UW athletic department definitely showcases Taylor in its literature (check the weekly game notes in which he has his own section). But contrast this year with last for the offense. Chryst wants to win, and he knew his problem last year was at QB. So last year was the JT show, largely because that was his only good choice. This year, Coan gives Chryst more of the balance that he wants. That makes the team better, but gives JT fewer chances. I'd rather have a team playing for a chance to play in the Big Ten title game than a team that received an invite to play in the "Biggest Disappointment" Bowl.

The Illinois game really hurt JT's chances. Laying it directly at JT's feet, had he held onto the ball in the 4th quarter against Illinois, the Badgers are a one, excusable, loss team. But he didn't. When they lost two in a row, including a blowout against Ohio State (which wasn't until the 4th quarter, but most people just looked at the final score and his yardage, which sucked), the Badgers left the national conversation, taking JT with them.

He may not ever have had a realistic shot at the Heisman this year, but he definitely doesn't now. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't get the Doak Walker, though.

 

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