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mcwterps1

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1358 on: February 17, 2020, 02:37:50 AM »
Did Gary Williams hold a .264 winning percentage against Duke? Did I read that right? If so, I think "lose to at a high rate" is pretty damn accurate.
You'd have to do some digging to find a stat like, and since you liked the previous post about slapping the floor, from badger, I'm curious as to your interest in it?

They've won 110, we've won 63. Not a split by any means, but not the blistering high rate you make it seem.

All of this doesn't really matter though, as to what many Twitter fans thought about the game the other night.


https://twitter.com/TerpsWatch/status/1228865473955188736?s=19


https://twitter.com/TerpsWatch/status/1228848042771656705?s=19


https://twitter.com/berry_seth14/status/1228849264203386881?s=19


https://twitter.com/caronnaguy27/status/1228851919612936193?s=19

So, where you might not think it's significant, or others may think it's cool, Maryland teams don't like the pompousness of it, and no matter the age, Marylander's know it from those ACC days, and find it disrespectful.

Any Maryland player that slaps the floor, get quite an earful by the Maryland faithful. 

None of this is to slight Mich St, as they are no where near full strength, but to derail the original post as if it has no significance today, is absurd. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1359 on: February 17, 2020, 03:31:14 PM »
Xavier Tillman's second kid has arrived, or "he took care of that"


https://twitter.com/tanyabball/status/1229498329182167041?s=19

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1360 on: February 17, 2020, 06:27:09 PM »
You'd have to do some digging to find a stat like, and since you liked the previous post about slapping the floor, from badger, I'm curious as to your interest in it?

They've won 110, we've won 63. Not a split by any means, but not the blistering high rate you make it seem.


So, where you might not think it's significant, or others may think it's cool, Maryland teams don't like the pompousness of it, and no matter the age, Marylander's know it from those ACC days, and find it disrespectful.

Any Maryland player that slaps the floor, get quite an earful by the Maryland faithful.

None of this is to slight Mich St, as they are no where near full strength, but to derail the original post as if it has no significance today, is absurd.
That's Maryland winning 34.9 percent. I guess I'm just not excited about it. When y'all played significantly, Maryland slotted in as maybe the second-biggest rival, probably closer to third. 

Anyway, it feels weird to always come back to a team you don't play any more that very often got the better of you. Especially when the Terps did something absurd in scoring 14 points in five possessions. That's cool and interesting. That we're still hunting for Duke-ish things to take umbrage with, just seems like a lot. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1361 on: February 17, 2020, 06:30:45 PM »
I've been busy, but UW won this weekend. It was important because if you believe in an arbitrary mark of 18 wins by the end of the regular season as likely putting in a team with a hard schedule in, it got the Badgers a step closer and came on the road.

UW was supposed to win by a bunch. Neb hung in for a half, hitting a lot of 3s. Those stopped falling, UW started bombing away.

It puts a ton of weight on tomorrow. If UW can win at home against a schizophrenic Purdue team, it only needs to beat NW at home and go 1-3 in a run of at Mich, Minnesota at home, Rutgers at home and at IU to get to 14. If they wanna in win two or three of those games, that'd be peachy too. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1362 on: February 17, 2020, 06:56:51 PM »
It puts a ton of weight on tomorrow. If UW can win at home against a schizophrenic Purdue team, it only needs to beat NW at home and go 1-3 in a run of at Mich, Minnesota at home, Rutgers at home and at IU to get to 14. If they wanna in win two or three of those games, that'd be peachy too.
I don't know what to think for tomorrow. I think UW is a team that Purdue matches up very well with. But it's on the road, which has been the bane of Purdue. But it's on the road at the Kohl Center, where Purdue wins more than most other conference foes... 

I feel like Purdue needs 4 more wins. They're 14-12 now, and I think 18 wins gets them in. Whether that's 4-1 regular season and losing first round BTT to finish 18-14, or 3-2 regular season and winning first round BTT to finish 18-15 or better (if they win more than one), I think it gets there.

But I don't trust Purdue to go 3-0 at home, so picking up either @Wisconsin or @Iowa would REALLY help. I think matchup-wise, @Wisconsin is the more likely shot, but I'm not confident. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1363 on: February 17, 2020, 08:55:39 PM »
I don't know what to think for tomorrow. I think UW is a team that Purdue matches up very well with. But it's on the road, which has been the bane of Purdue. But it's on the road at the Kohl Center, where Purdue wins more than most other conference foes...

I feel like Purdue needs 4 more wins. They're 14-12 now, and I think 18 wins gets them in. Whether that's 4-1 regular season and losing first round BTT to finish 18-14, or 3-2 regular season and winning first round BTT to finish 18-15 or better (if they win more than one), I think it gets there.

But I don't trust Purdue to go 3-0 at home, so picking up either @Wisconsin or @Iowa would REALLY help. I think matchup-wise, @Wisconsin is the more likely shot, but I'm not confident.
I like none of this logic.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1364 on: February 18, 2020, 09:34:50 AM »
The tiers, for review are:

  • UMD
  • PSU, MSU, UW, IL
  • IA, tOSU, RU, PU, MN, IU, M
  • blank
  • UNL, NU
Upsets so far have been:

We had two upsets this weekend with Maryland and Iowa winning in East Lansing and Minneapolis respectively so here are the updated projected final standings/BTT seeds:
  • 17-3/27-4 Maryland
  • 14-6/24-7 Penn State
  • 12-8/20-11 Michigan State
  • 12-8/21-10 Iowa
  • 12-8/20-11 Illinois
  • 12-8/19-12 Wisconsin
  • 10-10/20-11 Ohio State
  • 10-10/19-12 Rutgers
  • 10-10/17-14 Purdue
  • 9-11/15-15 Minnesota
  • 9-11/18-13 Michigan
  • 9-11/19-12 Indiana
  • 2-17/8-23 Nebraska
  • 1-19/6-24 Northwestern
The tiebreakers are:
For the four-way tie at 12-8 for 3rd/4th/5th/6th, the first tiebreaker is H2H2H2H:
  • 4-1 MSU, no game in Iowa City, upset win at IL
  • 2-2 Iowa, no game in Madison, does not host MSU
  • 2-3 IL, does not host UW, upset home loss to MSU
  • 1-3 UW, no game in Champaign, does not host IA, lost at home to IL

For the three-way tie at 10-10 for 7th/8th/9th, the first tiebreaker is H2H2H:
  • 2-0 tOSU, no games in Picastaway or West Lafayette
  • 1-2 PU and RU, neither hosts tOSU
Thus, PU and RU move on to record against the best team, then the next, etc:
  • Both are projected to go 0-season against 17-3 UMD
  • Against 14-6 PSU:  RU is projected to go 1-1 (already won at home, projected loss on the road).  PU is 0-1 with a home loss and no road game. 


For the three-way tie at 9-11 for 10th/11th/12th, the first tiebreaker is H2H2H:
  • 2-1 MN, no game in Ann Arbor
  • 1-1 M, no game in Bloomington, does not host MN
  • 1-2 IU, does not host Michigan


Thus, the BTT match-ups in Indianapolis would be:
Wednesday, March 11, 2020:
  • #11 Michigan vs #14 Northwestern, 930pm on BTN
  • #12 Indiana vs #13 Nebraska, 6pm on BTN
Thursday, March 12, 2020:
  • #5 Illinois vs IU/UNL, 230pm on BTN
  • #6 Wisconsin vs M/NU, 9pm on BTN
  • #7 Ohio State vs #10 Minnesota, 630pm on BTN
  • #8 Rutgers vs #9 Purdue, noon on BTN
Friday, March 13, 2020:
  • #1 Maryland vs RU/PU, noon on BTN
  • #2 Penn State vs tOSU/MN, 630pm on BTN
  • #3 Michigan State vs UW/M/NU, 9pm on BTN
  • #4 Iowa vs IL/IU/UNL, 230pm on BTN
Saturday, March 14, 2020:
  • UMD/RU/PU vs IA/IL/IU/UNL, 1pm on CBS
  • PSU/tOSU/MN vs MSU/UW/M/NU, 3:30pm on CBS
Sunday, March 15, 2020:
  • UMD/RU/PU/IA/IL/IU/UNL vs PSU/tOSU/MN/MSU/UW/M/NU, 3:30pm on CBS


MY USUAL WARNING:
This is all EXTREMELY fluid due to the bunching of teams in the vicinity of .500.  Any upset involving any of the 10 teams projected to finish between 12-8 and 9-11 would impact at least five teams and potentially result in a major revision of the projected BTT seeds. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1365 on: February 18, 2020, 02:50:45 PM »
Ohio State against the rest of the B1G by record:

  • vs 11-3 UMD:  0-1, home game remaining
  • vs 10-4 PSU:  1-1, won home game
  • vs 9-6 IA:  n/a, road game remaining
  • vs 9-6 RU:  1-0, won at home
  • vs 9-6 MSU:  n/a, road game remaining
  • vs 8-6 IL:  n/a, home game remaining
  • vs 8-6 UW:  0-2
  • vs 7-7 M:  1-0, home game remaining
  • vs 7-8 PU:  1-0, won at home
  • vs 6-8 IU:  1-1, won home game
  • vs 6-8 MN:  0-2
  • vs 2-12 UNL:  1-0, road game remaining
  • vs 1-13 NU:  1-0, won on the road


That 0-2 against Minnesota stands out like a sore thumb.  The Buckeyes are 5-3 against teams .500 or worse in the league and two of the three losses were to Minnesota.  Even in road games against teams .500 or worse in the league the Buckeyes are 2-2 (won at Michigan and Northwestern, lost at Minnesota and Indiana).  

I'm not sure if the issue is a question of the match-up, just bad timing for those games, or just coincidence but the Buckeyes should have won AT LEAST the home game against Minnesota.  

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1366 on: February 18, 2020, 07:15:44 PM »
And Kentucky should've beaten Evansville.  It's not a bad loss for the Buckeyes.  Up and down year.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1367 on: February 18, 2020, 07:50:38 PM »
Purdue within 3 at the half. One of their better road performances. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1368 on: February 18, 2020, 08:30:21 PM »
Welcome back Ayo

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1369 on: February 18, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »
Purdue within 3 at the half. One of their better road performances.
Made it very unpleasant. 

I feel for Purdue. That team is much better than that record. 

Also, UW needs to beat NW at home, win one of the other four (two at home), and it’s dancing again. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1370 on: February 19, 2020, 11:56:24 AM »
One day late weekly Massey composite rankings (59 rankings) (doesn't count last night's games)

  • Kansas (1)
  • Baylor (3)
  • Duke (4)
  • Gonzaga (2)
  • San Diego State (5)
  • Dayton (7)
  • MARYLAND (8)
  • Louisville (6)
  • West Virginia (9)
  • PENN STATE (13)
  • Florida State (11)
  • Creighton (23)
  • Colorado (15)
  • Arizona (16)
  • Villanova (19)
  • Seton Hall (10)
  • MICHIGAN STATE (14)
  • Oregon (21)
  • OHIO STATE (-)
  • Auburn (12)
  • Kentucky (18)
  • Marquette (17)
  • Houston (20)
  • BYU (25)
  • MICHIGAN (-)




  • 27. Iowa (24)
  • 30. Rutgers (32)
  • 32. Wisconsin (35)
  • 39. Purdue (29)
  • 41. Illinois (31)
  • 45. Indiana (46)
  • 50. Minnesota (44)
  • 157. Northwestern (145)
  • 164. Nebraska (161)

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1371 on: February 19, 2020, 11:57:39 AM »
With Penn State's home loss to Illinois the Terps are getting close to clinching the regular season title.  If they win in Columbus on Sunday they'll move up to 13-3 and they have an easier remaining schedule than second place Penn State.  

Illinois' win also means that the Illini and Nittany Lions are now projected to finish tied for 2nd/3rd and that Illinois would win that tie and get the #2 seed.  The remaining 12-8 teams (MSU, UW, IA) would finish tied for 4th/5th/6th with the winner of that tie getting the bye into Friday and the other two playing on Thursday.  

The race for the regular season title:

  • 12-3 Maryland:  @tOSU, @MN, vsMSU, @RU, vsM.  They have two games to spare.  
  • 10-5 Penn State:  @IU, vRU, @IA, vMSU, @NU.  They probably need to be perfect and even that would require two UMD losses just to get a tie.  
  • 9-6 Iowa, Rutgers, Illinois, Michigan State, and Wisconsin:  If any of these teams manage to finish perfect they would still need a PSU loss and three UMD losses just to get a tie.  
  • 7-7 Ohio State and Michigan:  They are mathematically in the race but practically eliminated.  Even if they finished perfect, they would still need four UMD losses (out of five), two PSU losses, and a loss each for the 9-6 teams just to get a tie.  
  • 6-8 Indiana and Minnesota:  The Hoosiers and Gophers are still mathematically capable of tying UMD, but they would need all kinds of help.  
  • Purdue, Nebraska, and Northwestern are mathematically eliminated.  

A Maryland win in Columbus on Sunday would eliminate IU, MN, tOSU, and M (unless they win at RU tonight AND at PU on Saturday).  

Maryland could clinch as early as next Wednesday, February 26.  If they win in Columbus (Sunday) and Minneapolis (next Wednesday) they would improve to 14-3.  Thus, the worst they could do would be 14-6.  That would eliminate IU, MN, tOSU, M.  Additionally, it would mean that IA, RU, IL, MSU, and UW could do no better than a tie (if they win out from today forward).  That only leaves PSU and the Nittany Lions are currently 10-5 so the best they can do is 15-5.  Between now and next Wednesday they visit Bloomington and host Rutgers.  If Penn State were to lose either of those games then Maryland would clinch at least a share of the title by beating Ohio State and Minnesota.  


 

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