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medinabuckeye1

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2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« on: March 24, 2019, 11:06:21 PM »
Fans of Purdue and the two Michigan Schools can join us in a week, or hopefully two.

The other 11 fanbases can get a head start.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2019, 11:43:10 PM »
the Mayor in Lincoln???
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 11:49:31 PM »
Fans of Purdue and the two Michigan Schools can join us in a week, or hopefully two.

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I feel pretty good about MSU's chance to make it through next weekend all things considered 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2019, 12:11:51 AM »
It's not easy to predict the 2019-2020 roster for Michigan. It's possible the whole team could return. But Charles Mathews bolting for the NBA/Europe feels so likely, let's just say it's happening. Maybe Teske or Poole will also leave. A month ago, we weren't expecting that for either, but I could see one or both going. Teske would be the one that changes the outlook for next year; if he stays, no matter the other moving parts, Michigan should be the offseason front runner for the first time in a few years.

Xavier - Iggy - Poole - Livers - Teske is a great lineup.

And it'd be an unusual luxury for Michigan to have reliable depth at the 5 with Teske + TrSo Castleton. Additionally, that'll move Livers back to his more natural position, so we can go back to capitalizing on his outside shot (he may have the best 3 on the team).

If Poole were to also go, there'd be an extra amount of question, though Beilein does his best underclassman work with guards and at least on recruiting profiles, David DeJulius and Jalen Wilson are good clay to mold. Having said that, DD hasn't yet (albeit in limited minutes) shown off any shooting acumen, and that spooks me a bit.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2019, 12:13:17 AM »
Still hopeful about this season, of course, though Texas Tech looked good today, but Michigan should be at least as good if not better next year with only Matthews expected to leave. Livers will replace him as a starter, as we've already seen when Matthews was out and it didn't make much difference except exacerbating the lack of depth. Poole and Brazdeikis have pro potential, but they still both have room to improve and be more consistent.

The lack of depth issue should be mitigated for next year. Over the off-season, Castleton should further solidify his place as the top backup center and same should go for DeJulius at PG, and then they'd be ready to start their last two years after Simpson and Teske graduate.... The 2/3/4 backups are wide-open, though. Brooks will probably remain the default option unless/until someone else emerges, at least at the 2-spot. Johns will presumably focus on learning the 4-spot this off-season. Nunez could emerge as a viable 2/3 if he puts on enough weight. The two incoming freshmen are 2/3/4 players, and they're fairly highly ranked, but returning players generally get the benefit of the doubt under Beilein so they'll have to prove themselves like Brazdeikis did. With any other transfers, Michigan could add someone late. Apparently they're already looking at a grad transfer from William & Mary and a few other recruits, including Moe Wagner's younger brother, who might just stay in Germany, but Michigan is probably the favorite over Butler and Stanford if he decides to play college basketball.

Not much is known about scheduling yet. Michigan is in the Atlantis tournament, again, in a strong field (Gonzaga, Alabama, North Carolina, Oregon, Iowa State, Seton Hall, and Southern Mississippi for some reason), and also recently scheduled the Ducks in a non-con series with the first one at home. Presumably they'll get a top ACC team other than North Carolina since they've played the past 2 years and the potential to play in Atlantis, be it Duke, Virginia, Florida State, or Virginia Tech, presumably. The other 6 games will probably be guarantee games as was the case this year.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2019, 12:17:16 AM »
Michigan getting Franz Wagner would further tick this team back toward being an elite ("classic Beilein") team from 3. I'd be over the moon to see *this* defense paired with *that* offense.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2019, 08:07:20 AM »
IIRC UM needs one guy to leave to to be at the scholarship limit, which presumably is Matthews.  To add Wagner, they'd need one other guy to go pro or transfer.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2019, 08:38:27 AM »
That's true. I'm betting on another transfer out. With Castleton passing him so strongly, Austin Davis is the best bet, though I can see the role of Brooks diminishing too.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2019, 10:20:32 AM »
I predict that this thread will be on page 9 when the first game tips off.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2019, 02:28:07 PM »
T-Rank projections for 2020 atm. Numbers are pretty high on the BIG again.

http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php



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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2019, 11:33:50 PM »
I don't think Michigan will be the best team in the country (even though it apparently assumes Matthews is gone, and I'm not sure how it predicts anything about incoming freshmen - One obvious flaw is it assumes Faulds, a walkon transfer who played at Columbia, will play over Castleton) to be sure, but they could be the best in the BigTen since MSU loses McQuaid and Goins, which really diversified their offense this year. Of course, Langford will be back from his injury, though.

Before Brooks emerged late I would've guessed he could transfer, but now I'm not sure. Davis has no incentive to, because he's already redshirted and he'd be able to grad-transfer after next year, anyway. I still don't think anyone else goes pro, and everyone else who didn't play meaningful minutes was just a true freshman this year.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2019, 07:24:16 AM »
Fans of Purdue and the two Michigan Schools can join us in a week, or hopefully two.

The other 11 fanbases can get a head start.
and yet only fans of TT'sUN are posting here. 😈

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2019, 07:47:33 AM »
For Ohio State, I want to start with some roster analysis.  For each player I am listing year, position, name, minutes per game, points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game:
  • SR, G, C. J. Jackson, 30.7 MPG, 12.0 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 3.5 APG
  • JR, F, Andre Wesson, 30.0 MPG, 8.6 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 1.8 APG
  • SR, G, Keyshawn Woods, 27.5 MPG, 8.1 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 2.5 APG
  • FR, G, Luther Muhammed, 26.6 MPG, 7.6 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 1.7 APG
  • SO, F, Kaleb Wesson, 25.9 MPG, 14.6 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 1.8 APG
  • SO, F, Kyle Young, 20.5 MPG, 6.0 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 0.9 APG
  • FR, G, Duane Washington JR, 17.2 MPG, 7.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 1.1 APG
  • SO, G, Musa Jallow, 15.0 MPG, 2.9 PPG, 2.9 RPG, 0.7 APG
  • FR, F, Justin Ahrens, 9.6 MPG, 3.2 PPG, 1.8 RPG, 0.3 APG
  • FR, F, Jaedon LeDee, 6.6 MPG, 3.0 PPG, 1.7 RPG, 0.2 APG

Nobody else had more than 3.0 Minutes Per Game.  

At this point I do not *THINK* that any of the underclassmen will leave early.  If they don't then Ohio State should certainly improve.  C.J. Jackson and Keyshawn Woods were good players who contributed heavily to the team these past few years but they were far from superstars.  My eyeball guess is that the usual year-over-year improvement will be enough for Muhammed, Washington, and Jallow to replace them without any drop-off.  Then, if we simply assume that the Wessons, Young, Ahrens, and LeDee also improve that alone makes Ohio State better in 2019-2020 than they were in 2018-2019.  Losing 57.6 MPG, 20.1 PPG, 7.1 RPG, and 6.0 APG *feels* pretty replaceable to me.  

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2019, 11:57:50 AM »
OSU will add four guys. Three freshmen as well as transfer PG CJ Walker. Walker might be the most important add, as they haven't really had a natural point guard in Holtmann's time here. If I had to guess I'd say he, Muhammad, Washington, and both Wessons start next year, but they play a deep bench.

 

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