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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1106 on: January 27, 2020, 12:13:18 PM »
I cannot be the only one whose happy that Rutgers are ranked and doing well.

And how long has Wisconsin been an Under Armour school?

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1107 on: January 27, 2020, 12:44:50 PM »
Zavier Simpson suspended for tomorrow's game for a violation of team rules

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1108 on: January 27, 2020, 12:51:23 PM »
He said, "this is my court".

Better lock him up now.

The cursing came from the fans.
After the go-head bucket, CBS got him saying “F— you, F— you, b—“

Then as the game ended, he waved for more boos, said this is my court. Knelt down to tap the court and then his chest to let the fans know. And as he took another step toward the crowd (students?), he coach got up in his face screaming at him.

I enjoyed it a good deal.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1109 on: January 27, 2020, 02:17:31 PM »
Updated weekly Massey composite rankings (34 rankings)

  • Kansas (1)
  • Baylor (2)
  • Duke (3)
  • Gonzaga (4)
  • West Virginia (9)
  • Dayton (5)
  • Louisville (7)
  • San Diego State (6)
  • MICHIGAN STATE (8)
  • Seton Hall (10)
  • MARYLAND (13)
  • Florida State (11)
  • Oregon (14)
  • Villanova (17)
  • Colorado (19)
  • Arizona (15)
  • Butler (12)
  • Auburn (16)
  • IOWA (18)
  • Kentucky (21)
  • PENN STATE (-)
  • LSU (-)
  • Houston (22)
  • OHIO STATE (23)
  • ILLINOIS (-)





  • 30. Rutgers (20)
  • 32. Indiana (37)
  • 35. Wisconsin (32)
  • 37. Michigan (30)
  • 38. Purdue (41)
  • 40. Minnesota (42)
  • 132. Northwestern (132)
  • 136. Nebraska (149)


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1110 on: January 27, 2020, 02:41:26 PM »
Can we have the tiers pinned somewhere for those of us that don't know them by heart?
Prior to this weekend they were:
  • UMD, MSU
  • PSU, UW, M, IA, PU
  • IL, IU, RU, MN, tOSU
  • blank
  • UNL, NU
All are within +/-1 except:
  • Michigan is -2:  Their two upsets were home losses to Illinois and Pen State so even if we drop them, they'll still be -2.  I think we should drop them anyway.  
  • Purdue is -2:  Their two upsets were a road loss to Nebraska and a home loss to Illinois.  They did beat MSU at home so I don't think we should drop them yet.  
  • Illinois is +3:  Their three upsets were road wins over Wisconsin, Purdue, and Michigan.  All three would be upsets even if we move them up a tier, but I think we should anyway because they are +3.  
  • Ohio State is -2:  Their upsets were home losses to Wisconsin and Minnesota and would still be upsets even if we dropped them.  Since they won at Northwestern this weekend I think we should leave them.  
  • Nebraska is +2:  Their two upsets were home wins over Purdue and Iowa which would be upsets even if we move them up a tier.  
Thus, I propose that we make the following changes:
  • Move Michigan down to tier-3 from tier-2, and
  • Move Illinois up to tier-2 from tier-3
Thoughts?


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1111 on: January 27, 2020, 03:14:10 PM »
Assuming that the group is ok with the changes I proposed above, the new tiers are:

  • UMD, MSU
  • IL, PSU, UW, IA, PU
  • IU, RU, MN, tOSU, M
  • blank
  • UNL, NU
And the new projected final standings/BTT seeds are:
  • 15-5 Maryland
  • 14-6 Michigan State
  • 14-6 Illinois
  • 12-8 Wisconsin
  • 12-8 Penn State
  • 11-9 Iowa
  • 10-10 Rutgers
  • 10-10 Purdue
  • 10-10 Indiana
  • 10-10 Minnesota
  • 9-11 Ohio State
  • 9-11 Michigan
  • 3-17 Nebraska
  • 1-19 Northwestern

Tiebreakers:
The two-way tie between MSU and IL for 2nd/3rd at 14-6:
  • First tiebreaker is H2H.  They play each other twice.  MSU already won their home game and IL is expected to win theirs.  
  • The second tiebreaker is record against the best team in the league.  They both play UMD twice and both are expected to go 1-1.  
  • The next tiebreaker is record against the 12-8 teams.  Illinois does not host either PSU or UW so they are projected to go 0-2 while MSU is projected to go 2-2, thus MSU wins the tie.  

The two-way tie between PSU and UW for 4th/5th at 12-8:
  • First tiebreaker is H2H.  They only play once, in State College and UW won.  

The four-way tie between PU, IU, RU, and MN for 7th/8th/9th/10th at 10-10:
  • First tiebreaker is H2H2H2H:  Rutgers is projected to go 3-1 (no games in Bloomington or Minneapolis).  Purdue is expected to go 3-2 (no game in Minneapolis).  Indiana is projected to go 2-3 (do not host Rutgers).  Minnesota is projected to go 1-3 (do not host PU or RU).  

The two-way tie between tOSU and M for 11th/12th at 9-11:
  • First tiebreaker is H2H.  They play twice and are each expected to win the home game.  
  • Second tiebreaker is record against the best team in the league.  Both are expected to go 0-season against Maryland.  
  • Third tiebreaker is record against the 14-6 teams.  Ohio State is projected to go 1-1 while Michigan (with their upset home loss to Illinois is projected to go 0-4.  


The projected match-ups at the B1G Tournament in Indianapolis are:
Wednesday, March 11, 2020:
  • #11 Ohio State vs #14 Northwestern, 9:30pm, BTN
  • #12 Michigan vs #13 Nebraska, 6pm, BTN
Thursday, March 12, 2020:
  • #5 Penn State vs M/UNL, 2:30pm, BTN
  • #6 Iowa vs tOSU/NU, 9pm, BTN
  • #7 Rutgers vs #10 Minnesota, 6:30pm, BTN
  • #8 Purdue vs #9 Indiana, noon, BTN
Friday, March 13, 2020:
  • #1 Maryland vs PU/IU, noon, BTN
  • #2 Michigan State vs RU/MN, 6:30pm, BTN
  • #3 Illinois vs IA/tOSU/NU, 9pm, BTN
  • #4 Wisconsin vs PSU/M/UNL, 2:30pm, BTN
Saturday, March 14, 2020:
  • UMD/PU/IU vs UW/PSU/M/UNL, 1pm, CBS
  • MSU/RU/MN vs IL/IA/tOSU/NU, 3:30pm, CBS
Sunday, March 15, 2020:
  • UMD/PU/IU/UW/PSU/M/UNL vs MSU/RU/MN/IL/IA/tOSU/NU, 3:30pm, CBS


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1112 on: January 27, 2020, 03:18:40 PM »
If OSU moves down, then Wisc is no longer an upset.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1113 on: January 27, 2020, 03:27:09 PM »
Here is the full sheet for anyone who wants to see it.  The columns (L->R) are:

  • Team:  The team in question
  • noAway:  A team they do not visit this year.  
  • noAway:  A team they do not visit this year.  
  • noAway:  A team they do not visit this year.  
  • noHome:  A team they do not host this year.  
  • noHome:  A team they do not host this year.  
  • noHome:  A team they do not host this year.  
  • RR-W:  Projected wins (before accounting for upsets) on a full, 26-game double-round-robin schedule.  
  • RR-L:  Projected losses (before accounting for upsets) on a full, 26-game double-round-robin schedule.  
  • miss-W:  Projected wins in the six games they do not play (see columns #2-#7)
  • miss-L:  Projected losses in the six games they do not play (see columns #2-#7)
  • Proj-W:  Projected wins (before accounting for upsets) on their schedule.  
  • Proj-L:  Projected losses (before accounting for upsets) on their schedule.  
  • RR%:  Projected winning percentage on a full double-round-robin (before accounting for upsets)
  • Proj%:  Projected winning percentage on their schedule (before accounting for upsets).  
  • Diff:  Column #15 minus column #14.  This is a measure of how favorable or unfavorable the team's schedule is.  
  • +Var:  Positive Variance, ie, positive upsets.  
  • -Var:  Negative Variance, ie, negative upsets.  
  • Var:  Net Variance.  
  • Conf-W:  Projected conference wins after accounting for schedule and upsets.  
  • Conf-L:  Projected conference losses after accounting for schedule and upsets.  
  • OOW-W:  Out Of Conference wins.  
  • OOC-L:  Out Of Conference losses.  
  • Team:  A duplicate of column #1.  
  • ProjT-W:  Projected total wins (Column #20 plus column #22).  
  • ProjT-L:  Projected total losses (Column #21 plus column #23).  
  • Chk:  This is a mathematical check column I use to make sure I haven't screwed anything up.  It should be zero for each team.  
  • ProjC-W:  This is the same as column #20 but it is calculated a different way so that I can double-check.  
  • ProjC-L:  This is the same as column #21 but it is calculated a different way so that I can double-check.  




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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1114 on: January 27, 2020, 03:33:13 PM »
If OSU moves down, then Wisc is no longer an upset.
Yes, and I was expecting to move tOSU down because I thought they would lose in Evanston but they won.  The difference between tier-3 (where Ohio State is now) and tier-4 is projected result in home games against tier-2 teams and road games against tier-5 teams.  For the Buckeyes, those potential games are:
  • vs UW, lost
  • vs IA, not played
  • vs PU, 2/15
  • at UNL, 2/27
  • vs IL, 3/5
  • vs PSU, won
  • at NU won

There are seven potential games but one is not played leaving six.  Three have been played and the Buckeyes are 2-1 with three more to play.  

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1115 on: January 27, 2020, 03:35:25 PM »
Thus, I propose that we make the following changes:
  • Move Michigan down to tier-3 from tier-2, and
  • Move Illinois up to tier-2 from tier-3
Thoughts?


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1116 on: January 27, 2020, 03:36:49 PM »
I cannot be the only one whose happy that Rutgers are ranked and doing well.

And how long has Wisconsin been an Under Armour school?
I'm pleased for them, but man, football... Maybe that will get better now with Schiano, but this I not the Big East without the big boys who left for the ACC. It will be a lot harder for him to win in this conference than that old one.

Under Armour, probably around 3-4 years.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1117 on: January 27, 2020, 03:43:22 PM »
hey, if Rutgers can stay ranked and give the conference another hoops program, that's something
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1118 on: January 27, 2020, 03:44:48 PM »
This week (Mon-Thur) each B1G team plays exactly one game except for:

  • Ohio State has the week off, and
  • Iowa plays both Monday and Thursday.  
The games this week are:
  • Wisconsin+1 at Iowa-1 tonight at 8:30 on BTN:  We project an Iowa win.  If Wisconsin wins it would move them to +2 and Iowa to -2 which would probably necessitate a change.  
  • Michigan-2 at Nebraska+2 Tuesday at 7 on ESPNU:  We project a Michigan win.  If Nebraska wins it would move them to +3 and Michigan to -3.  We would then need to move Nebraska up.  
  • Purdue-2 at Rutgers Tuesday at 8 on BTN:  We project a Rutgers win.  If Purdue wins it will bring them closer to even and only move RU to -1 so no big deal.  
  • Northwestern at Michigan State -1 Wednesday at 630 on BTN:  We project a Michigan State win.  If Northwestern wins well that would be REALLY shocking.  
  • Indiana+1 at Penn State Wednesday at 830 on BTN:  We project a PSU win.  If Indiana wins it would move them to +2 and might necessitate a change.  
  • Minnesota+1 at Illinois +3 Thursday at 730 on FS1:  We project an Illinois win.  If Minnesota wins it would leave both MN and IL at +2.  I don't think that would require any changes.  
  • Iowa-1 at Maryland Thursday at 830 on BTN:  We project a Maryland win.  If Iowa wins it would move them to even and UMD to -1 so no big deal.  


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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1119 on: January 27, 2020, 03:49:08 PM »
I cannot be the only one whose happy that Rutgers are ranked and doing well.
Yes and no.  Part of the reason we do the tiers is so that we can more easily notice if a team is actually good or just looks good because of schedule.  Rutgers is a lot better than they have been, but a BIG part of their record is simply schedule.  We have them in tier-3 and they have no upsets.  Thus, they are actually not doing as well as Indiana and Minnesota (both tier-3 and +1 in upsets).  

So far in league play the Scarlet Knights haven't done anything unexpected.  They are 6-3 but the schedule gets a lot tougher and we project them to go 4-7 down the stretch.  Now if they can win the four expected wins and pick up a couple positive upsets I'll be impressed.  

 

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