Coors regular is my beer of choice when I am at home. If I am at the Lake or beach, its Miller Lite.I too am a Miller Lite drinker
Miller Lite is one of the very few beers I can't drinkI think you may be right
there seems to be an issue with Budweiser drinkers and Miller Lite and the opposite
many Miller Lite drinkers I know just can't stomach the heavy Bud
Coors, Shiner Bock, Corona,Rolling Rock.... all in my garage fridge.
Tasted like Killian Red strained through the panties of a very old hooker.I drink quite a bit of Guinness, It's very good for a light beer
I drink quite a bit of Guinness, It's very good for a light beerNobody ever knows how old they are. The one I had in mind would look about 70 but she might only be 46.
I'm curious regarding Charlie's description of a "very old" hooker
I'm guessing a lady in her 40's. 50's and above would probably require something more like "very very old" or "scary old"
Nobody ever knows how old they are.true and true
It’s a hard knocks life.
I used to like Shiner Bock and Negra Modelo, back in the day. They were okay, but just okay.Fred, isn't it beneath you to be a Sooner fan?
However, it's been years and years since I've had a mass produced beer like Bud or Miller. I can't remember the last time. Life is just too short to waste my limited beer space, my limited beer time, in this ever shortening life, on that stuff. If that's being a beer snob, so be it, but it's just a matter of taste for me.
The choice between a mass produced beer vs a microbrew (preferably on draft) is like choosing between a bama pie out of the vending machine vs a homemade fruit pie by your grandmom (or her recipe anyway, and I did learn how to make a respectable pie crust from my grandmom). I mean, in a pinch I'll eat the bama pie, but given the choice, give me the homemade style. Give me the craft brew. Give me the true good taste. Life is too short for the swill. Sorry.
and why cans are better than bottles in every possible way.I knew it!! Canned beer does taste better. I knew it wasn't in my mind.
I prefer beer on tap, followed by beer in bottles. I never buy canned beer. It just tastes better from a glass IMO.You're actually 100% correct on this. All beer is made to be poured into a glass. Regardless of the transportation vessel-- can, bottle, keg, wooden cask-- it's all better when poured into a glass and consumed that way. Even crappy macroswill is slightly less crappy when poured into a glass. A large part of this is because the smell is better detected from the large opening of a glass compared to the smaller opening of a bottle or can, and like anything else we eat or drink, the smell is a large contributor to the flavor and experience. A secondary part is that the "mouth-feel" of the glass is more pleasant to most people, compared to a bottle or can.
Buy what you like and drink what you like, but if cans are an option, then they're 100% guaranteed to preserve the beer better than bottles ever could.And possibly give you Alzheimers.
All beer is made to be poured into a glass. Regardless of the transportation vessel-- can, bottle, keg, wooden cask-- it's all better when poured into a glass and consumed that way. Even crappy macroswill is slightly less crappy when poured into a glass. A large part of this is because the smell is better detected from the large opening of a glass compared to the smaller opening of a bottle or can, and like anything else we eat or drink, the smell is a large contributor to the flavor and experience. A secondary part is that the "mouth-feel" of the glass is more pleasant to most people, compared to a bottle or can.learned all this at seaworld in San Antonio - brewmaster school or something while my daughters were feeding the dolphins
And possibly give you Alzheimers.nearly all beer cans, not just Keystone, are lined with Epoxy resins, most of which are made from bisphenol A (BPA).
nearly all beer cans, not just Keystone, are lined with Epoxy resins, most of which are made from bisphenol A (BPA).big deal ...... just another thing I like that can kill me
Probably much more dangerous to your heath than aluminum
I'm sure Cincy can tell you plenty.
I thought keystone was glass-lined, not resin-lined? Did they LIE????can you imagine if Charlie broke the glass and sucked down the shards?
If one consumed enough canned beer to develop Alzheimer's, I'm sure he's on his third liver.who are you
Increasing bouts of extreme heat waves and drought will hurt production of barley, a key beer ingredient, in the future. Losses of barley yield can be as much as 17 percent, an international group of researchers estimated.
Consumers of beer have proven to be relatively price-inelastic over the decades, which means that increases to beer prices don't correlate to decreases in demand.
anyone have an opinion on the Shiner Oktoberfest?It's below average for a Marzen/Oktoberfest beer.
I noticed it in the grocery the other evening, but wasn't willing to give $8 for a sixer to test it.
Leonard Smalls, the bounty hunter played by Randall "Tex" Cobb in "Raising Arizona," put it quite eloquently when he said, "Price. A fair price. That's not what you say it is, and it's not what I say it is... It's what the market will bear."For sure, the market is situational and varies based on proximal environment.
In certain venues that offer certain entertainment, I have paid exorbitant prices for certain foods and beverages that would have no business costing near that much in other venues offering other entertainment options.
But once you've spent $20 bucks on a beer or $30 on a burger, you feel a bit hypocritical complaining about the comparatively small yet seemingly outrageous costs of those same items elsewhere.
That's life. If you want a beer and can afford the price, you'll pay it.
For sure, the market is situational and varies based on proximal environment.It's the old,
But I thought those places that charged for $20 beers also compensated by giving you a juicy sirloin steak for only $3.99?
I'll admit my familiarity with such establishments is minimal.
Do I want to pay $37,500 for this new F150 and have them give me $9,000 on my old beater?
Or would I prefer to pay only $28,500 to the people who refuse to take my trade in?
I'm not sure how I feel about the internets when it comes to new car shopping.Huh, Cave, maybe we have more in common than I thought, except that my wife is at least as much of a hard bargainer as I am. When we buy a car, we show up in the morning, pick out the car we want, and then sit there all day if need be until they give us essentially dealer cost. It has worked for all four of our most recent purchases. The trick is that they still get credit as a dealership for simply selling the car, and there are about I dunno 7-8 or so techniques they go through (including bringing out the store manager who angrily accuses you of not appreciating that they have lives and families and need to make a profit to live) before they finally give in. They don't want you to leave, but you have no obligation to agree, and so we just sit on our price until they finally come down to it. It usually takes a full day, but we've always saved a bundle that way.
On the plus side, you pretty well know what your best purchase price will be for an F150. A man doesn't have to drive all over the state to compare deals/prices. You just hop on the internets. Hence, dealers have to be competitive at first blush or they'll never get your attention. Not like the old days.
On the negative side, there's no room for bargaining anymore - which I excelled at. I took great pride 20 years ago driving home in my brand new Chevy single cab 2500 that I got for $21k, and talked the dealership into chrome bumpers to boot. Sticker was $26k and had black bumpers.
My wife was embarrassed to stand by me while I operated on these guys. I had to leave once - they called me while we eating lunch. (We were in Abilene) But after I closed the deal, my wife felt like she had just won the man lottery. I couldn't get her off me the rest of that week.
The good ol' days of bargaining, I miss 'em.
Huh, Cave, maybe we have more in common than I thought, except that my wife is at least as much of a hard bargainer as I am. When we buy a car, we show up in the morning, pick out the car we want, and then sit there all day if need be until they give us essentially dealer cost. It has worked for all four of our most recent purchases. The trick is that they still get credit as a dealership for simply selling the car, and there are about I dunno 7-8 or so techniques they go through (including bringing out the store manager who angrily accuses you of not appreciating that they have lives and families and need to make a profit to live) before they finally give in. They don't want you to leave, but you have no obligation to agree, and so we just sit on our price until they finally come down to it. It usually takes a full day, but we've always saved a bundle that way.Trick is to come in with financing already settled and STICK WITH IT.
When we buy a car, we show up in the morning, pick out the car we want, and then sit there all day if need be until they give us essentially dealer cost.
My approach was always to be disinterested. As if I'm not even shopping for a car that day. I tell the wife to go to the mall when I'm in this stage of the process. She's way too easy to read. I got screwed sideways on a Lexus about 12 years ago because they could read it all over the wife's face. She was either getting that car or I was living out of a backpack.Got an awesome deal on my most recent F150 purchase, doing just that. The key was, I actually could take it or leave it. Plenty more out there where this one came from and there was no urgency to my buying now, vs 3 months from now. The salesman felt a lot more urgency than I did.
At any rate, I play it nonchalant - make me a ridiculous deal and I'm all checkbook. Otherwise, I got a ball game to watch at noon.
I'm cold hearted when it comes to my moneyWait.
I will spend the day.
I'm working on a Husker Red C6 Corvette this fall. Dealer knows he can't sell it in the winter. Will be April before anyone comes around. I told him, "it can either sit in your garage or my garage over the winter."
I'm softening him up via email before I spend the time in his office.
At the moment, it is 48, cloudy and rainy and I hope it doesn't get any colder or wetter than this or I'm just going to stay in bed.
Sweet - What year corvette? New or ?2013 Grand Sport 1LT listed at $33,997
Some of you people change cars often.The Montana was rear-ended and deemed a total loss by the responsible party's insurance company.
I've had my last two SUVs for 12, and 11 years, consecutively.
I have no idea what a Montana or Odyssey might be. Those names sound made up. Are they made up?Please give me an example of a word that was not made up.
You’ll be stylin’ either way. >400 horses. How far are you from SD? I think the top speed limit on SD freeways is 80. Good for a vette.I'm 30 minutes from South Dakota
I'll have to try some Cazadores. I might like it. Then again I might not. Tastes differ. I know a guy who loves Natty Light. None of my friends have wives I would've married. I know people who drive vehicles I wouldn't drive, live in houses I wouldn't live in, work at jobs I wouldn't want and vote for candidates I wouldn't vote for. Tastes can vary greatly. But for less than $30 it's worth trying. Thank you for the recommendation, Junior.
None of my friends have wives I would've married.Yep, same here when it comes to my own friends and their wives. But, when it comes to a few of my wife's friends, that's a different story, particularly those from Argentina. As I'd like to live into old age, those thoughts have always just stayed with me entirely, but ... damn.
Now that I'm over 50, my friends' wives are no longer interesting and attractive and my wife's friends are no longer interesting and attractive.
some days I fight harder than others. I don't think it's vanity for me and I don't really mind getting older, except for the pain my body feels.
The more I see those qualities in my peers, the more I want to fight them. Maybe it's vanity. Maybe I don't want to grow old.
too late for me, there's been some painYep, hard to escape it
Medieval Super Yeasts would make a great band name.
life is good, until your football team only wins 4 games in a seasonSo, you're not a Bengals fan then?
Circuit of the Americas can't be that far from home to require a camperCamping out there is way easier and way more fun, than driving back and forth every day. It's basically a 4-day-long tailgate party.
good call on the camperCurrently sitting beside the house, plugged in, refrigerators cooling, getting ready for the short trek to the racetrack. No hookups there so we'll be dry camping off propane, 12V batteries, and generator to keep the batteries topped off.
I see women with PINK shirts and shorts on fairly often, I surmise that means the band?
ahh, a carnival act
So, does P.I.N.K. have a meaning? Didn't see any pink color in the pic.
Is that a trapeze?
It looks like something that--in my ignorance of both--I would associate with S&M or B&D.
What is the best hot dog going?
What is the best hot dog going?Once upon a time, there was a hot dog shop called "Coney Island." I have to believe that it was in New York City, but I don't know that to be the case. I was started by a Greek immigrant. They made small, short (ca. 5") hot dogs called "coneys." The topping was yellow mustard, a mild chili, and onions. The only extra was cheese. They were cheap. 5 cents or so at the start, back around 1900. He spelled "wieners" as "weiners" to avoid any trademark infringement. Or maybe just because his English spelling was not so good. The original guy licensed other Greek immigrants to start similar restaurants with the same name in other cities.
You can get hot dogs at a lot of restaurants, but I can't think of a single hot dog specific restaurant in Austin.
Mich Ultra crowd
I am a full supporter of macro brew but Mich Ultra sucks to me. Do I need to try it again? So many friends seem to like it - I bought a sixer once and it had no taste to me.
And make no mistake, I can fully appreciate low-rent swill. I down Coors original like water.
But Mich Ultra just seemed like a waste of time and taste buds.
Man, how much Mic Ultra would it take to GET drunk? I doubt I could do it.
much too sophisticated for a dirt farmerBulljive, you like liquor that tastes good. You'd dig it.
I got somewhat of a liking for calvados after a heavy meal. Or marc (which is pronounced "mar").Do they "drop" the consonant, or do they re-jigger the sentence so there's no word at the end that has a terminal consonant?
The French don't like "h" or consonants at the end of sentences.
A consonant at the end is only pronounced if the next word in sentence starts with a vowel.
Boulevard is pronounced roughly "boo-luh-var", no "d" sound at the end.
"Marc" is pronounced "Mar". Calvados oddly enough is pronounced as it sounds, maybe because Normans aren't quite French enough. Sometimes they call it simply "calva".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxpLQZdyYkk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxpLQZdyYkk)
We know two folks named Bernard and another Gerrard, and the d is not pronounced.
Another strange phenomenon of pronunciation, this time in English, is-- why do many Brits, and even some New Englanders, add an "r" to the end of words that end in "a?"Maybe for the opposite reason that some Americans--Southerners, usually, drop the final "r" in words like "runner." And sometimes also do the same thing you mentioned. My 9th-grade Alabama history teacher said both "runnah" and "winder" (for "window").
For example: "Hey, I have an idear!"
I read somewhere (and doubted it) that the British accent of our revolutionary period was very much like today's American accent, and their current accent came later.British Received Pronunciation (traditional "BBC English") is a result of the Great Vowel Shift in the English language that began in the mid-14th century and ended in the early 18th century. The earliest English settlers came to America in the middle of that, about the time of the death of Shakespeare. And, generally, their speech did not continue shifting, so that by the time of the American Revolution, Americans spoke more like Shakespeare had than the average Englishman did.
Of course, one encounters all sorts of accents in Britain, but I mean the more typical "TV accent". I've met a few Germans who I thought were Brits because their English was so good. My step son speaks accentless American English and French which is impressive to me, both like a native. The wife has a nice French accent. It's interesting how good her English is until something gets technical, or financial, or medical, etc. That makes sense, you wouldn't learn what "death benefit" means in French class, or Required Minimum Distribution.
I may be busy next week as the wife goes in for a "hip revision". Interesting term, I've had to translate a lot of medical jargon for her of late.
Sam Adams' Boston Lager is too hoppy for my taste. I like the Boston Ale better.I do as well, but have not seen it in years. SA makes all sorts of other renditions, but no ales.
As far as Mexican beers, Modelo isn't very good, but Negra Modelo is.Mexico has a beer thats not Corona
And Bohemia is actually a VERY good rendition of a typical European pilsner.
Mexico has a beer thats not CoronaOh yeah, they have a bunch of national brands, their equivalents of our Bud-Miller-Coors. There's Dos Equis, Carta Blanca, Sol, Tecate. None of those are particularly good, but I do like Pacifico Clara, although it's yet another macro, it's a pretty light pilsner/lager but still has good flavor, the perfect beer served ice cold after mowing the lawn in July heat.
who'd a thought
As far as Mexican beers, Modelo isn't very good, but Negra Modelo is.agreed
And Bohemia is actually a VERY good rendition of a typical European pilsner.
I stopped drinking Corona because of this virus thing ...Switching to Lone Star?
I hear that attracts ticks, so no.Probably the sort of ticks that carry Texas Fever.
Probably lots of beer will be consumed in the USA this afternoon/evening. I'm still in the midst of Sober January (even though it's February) so I'll be enjoying some sparkling water during the festivities.
I'm not drinking any less:57:
my favorite simpson line
Everytime I learn something new, something old gets pushed out.
10 Great “Intro to Craft” Beers for the Hop-Averse
https://www.pastemagazine.com/drink/craft-beer/10-great-intro-to-craft-beers-for-the-hop-averse/ (https://www.pastemagazine.com/drink/craft-beer/10-great-intro-to-craft-beers-for-the-hop-averse/)
I agree with this. Some of my favorites
haven't tried #4. Allagash White
it's on my list
I used to do a wine tasting with 3-4 kinds of wines and 4 different kinds of glasses. Folks would be astonished, all of them, at the difference, and it's more than just shape.Yup, beer is just like wine, the glass makes a big difference.
Those cheap Libby wine glasses are pretty awful.
the wrong glass is still much better than drinking from the bottleYup. Or can.
cans need better marketingThe word is definitely out among the craft brew crowd. Cans are the standard at this point, bottles more rare by the month.
The wine in a can is mostly used for picnics and outings of that ilk. The other advantage is they are 350 mL, so half a bottle. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I prefer the Stelvin closures (screwcaps) in any wine not meant for some aging. I despise synthetic corks, and even the composites are problematic at times because I use an "ah so" cork remover.do you drink older aged wines often? or just don't want to mess with multiple gadgets?
Incidentally, Kirkland has a "box wine" Napa cab for $13 for 3 L that is entirely palatable. They have an Oakville Napa cab for $20 that is excellent.
That Costco box cab is tasty, I agree. But box wines make it difficult to gauge consumption. I had to stop buying them...boxes also block light!
we had quarter 10 oz glasses of PBR in the small town bar during happy hourWas Nebraska "UNL" before you guys moved to the B1G?
that way the keg wouldn't go as stale. at the end of the keg I'd use a salt shaker to add a little head
Keggers while I was at UNL were $2 per plastic cup, free refills.
that's when I learned to drink beer, never liked it much before then. Drank canadian whiskey and bourbon in high school
[img width=463.991 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/S9GT8u5.jpg[/img]Is there a connection between Catawba and a dragon?
This is the IPA my neighbor game me. It's pretty decent I think, and not crazy on the hops despite the name. Catawba, NC.
Was Nebraska "UNL" before you guys moved to the B1G?yes, because there's UNO
I guess you understand you are on the Big 12 boardWhen did that happen?
Meh. Drink what you like on two occasions. When you're alone, and when you're with someone.Don't mind if I do!
Champagne costs too muchThe real stuff does. Kirkland has a real Champagne for $20. It's meh. The better values I find are Cremants from Burgundy or Alsace. They are usually made the same was from the same grapes but from a different region. Cavas can be quite good also for $10-15 (Spain). The wife loves Kirkland Prosecco, which I quaff with her at times.
My fav is Tangueray Ten, but I make do with the regular stuff usually.
I find the Ten evaporates when I get it home.
I'm making a lot of rum punches these days.We're doing ranch water out by the pool quite a bit this summer.
We're doing ranch water out by the pool quite a bit this summer.My daughter bugged me a bout ranch water a couple of weeks ago. Significantly easier build than the rum punch. I just hafta remember to keep Topo Chico on hand.
My daughter bugged me a bout ranch water a couple of weeks ago. Significantly easier build than the rum punch. I just hafta remember to keep Topo Chico on hand.Yeah, I still love a good margarita but they're sweet enough they get really heavy after a while. Ranch water is great as an all-day-at-the-pool kind of beverage.
They're not bad! Less syrupy than my usual Margarita concoction. There's still 3oz of tequila in a pint glass!
worst beer I ever had was Texas Pridesounds horrid
sounds horridIt was but you could get drunk on $3
Small beer
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A modern Belgian tafelbier
Type Lager or ale
Country of origin Europe and North America
Alcohol by volume Between 0.5% to 2.8%
Just got back from New Orleans, drank a lot more bourbon than beer on that particular trip.glad you got back safely
glad you got back safelyIs it? I didn't hear or see anything unusual while we were there, but I also didn't watch the news.
I understand its getting a bit rowdy there
nothing like Chicagonothing is like Chicago
Old beer brands I recollect:Stag.
Stroh - fire brewed, whatever that could possible mean, tasted pretty bad to me
Schlitz - tasted like Bud to me
Falstaff - tasted worse than Bud
Lone Star - not very good
Jax - worse than Lone Star
Heileman's - not very good
Hamm's - still around in a few spots, not very good
but, not as bad as BudweiserOr Jax--brewed in New Orleans.
Better yet, make a couple Sazeracs side by side, one with cognac and one with rye whiskey. Only then can you crown a champion.Challenge accepted.
Speaking of Sam Adams, the difference between its Boston Ale and its Boston Lager is the difference between beers I like and beers I don't like.
We once thought Michelob was high end beer.That's certainly the way it was marketed!
I'm having a glass of Kirkland Cabernet box wine right now.On my way, when's dinner?
It's amazing. I'm fixing beef stew with leftover grilled ribeyes.
I like lots of lagers. Sam Adams just isn't one of them.yup, pilsners Vienna-style Marzens Bocks
All pilsners are lagers and I love a good Czech or German pilz. Vienna-style lagers are delicious too, when executed well. Marzens (aka Oktoberfestbiers) are lagers, plenty of tasty examples of those. Bocks are lagers, I dig them too.
see, I prefer the lagerI have nothing against lagers.
but, us Bud Men prefer lagers to ales, for the most part
I have nothing against lagers.Yup. They were doing that long before the recent trend of breweries attempting to make "India Pale Lagers." Blech.
But Sam's lager is hoppier than I like it.
I can enjoy most beers as long as the International Bitterness Units are 30 or less
leaves out most IPAs
you are correct - I really like the Live Oak Pilz
and I've enjoyed some others over the 30 IBU, but they are rare
so, when perusing the menu at a local brewery I start with the selections at 30 IBU or less
in the spring/summer there are fewer bocks, marzens on the menu and I try more things
my daughter is a fan of the sours, I've found one or two that I can almost enjoy
I am having good luck finding balanced IPAs. When I ask for them, the bar tender nods and gives me 2-3 choices usually which are fine.Yup, it can be done.
Yup, it can be done.Ed Zachery
The relatively recent trend of "hazy IPAs" or "juicy IPAs" or "New England IPAs" are considerably less bitter than their West Coast counterparts, and I've found several of them to be enjoyable.
They're still not ever going to be my go-to beers, though.
utee have you ever considered brewing your own beer
there are brewing supply stores all over
I got into it at about $100 but today it might be twice that amount
I dont do it anymore but back in the day I could bottle several cases at about 25 cents a beer
today cost would be somewhat higher
anyway it was a lot of fun
A really nice longform article on Live Oak Brewing here in Austin, from the folks at GoodBeerHunting.Czech-style Pilz, or award-winning Hefeweizen - They could stop right there,nothing else needed really I have 3 Marzens right now,Great Lakes Gold Medal Winner of course and Thirsty Dogs from Akron and FestBier from Columbus brewing. Nursing them of course as the nights have been dipping into the 50s,might go for a stroll here shortly and see if I can raust up Mad King Ludwig,we've met
https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2022/9/13/bamberg-on-the-colorado-live-oak-brewing-company-in-austin-texas?fbclid=IwAR3U38n7hlZ50tCqJU-_aJcnFTherK1qSLuqpErfezmR9qKE2RGTRSGRe7Q
@MrNubbz (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17) in case you don't check down here, I know you're always interested in beer stuff. :)
Czech-style Pilz, or award-winning Hefeweizen - They could stop right there,nothing else needed really I have 3 Marzens right now,Great Lakes Gold Medal Winner of course and Thirsty Dogs from Akron and FestBier from Columbus brewing. Nursing them of course as the nights have been dipping into the 50s,might go for a stroll here shortly and see if I can raust up Mad King Ludwig,we've metI've had a couple 6-packs of various Oktoberfest beers in the fridge for the past several weeks, and a few nights ago it dipped down to 69, so I took that as a sign to crack one open. :)
If I ever did, my first beer would undoubtedly be a (https://chainlinebrewing.com/beer-item/cerne-czech-black-lager/)Černé Czech Black Lager .Sad day about 3 weeks ago my local corner market closed after being in business since '77. Fetched me all sorts of fine suds.He procured for me Sprechers Black Bavarian Lager from Milwaulkee.I hear they know a thing or two of zymurgy up there. If you are are having problems with fridge content I've been known to make cameos. No sense sending FF
They're still not ever going to be my go-to beers, though.You're a young man still - don't do it!!!
If I ever did, my first beer would undoubtedly be a (https://chainlinebrewing.com/beer-item/cerne-czech-black-lager/)Černé Czech Black Lager .nice
(https://chainlinebrewing.com/beer-item/cerne-czech-black-lager/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrScZdC1yn0Doesn't make me want to go out and buy some.
I guess my first beers were from Adolph Coors.could get those in Iowa for a long time
if you hung with the young crowd you might find wine that was very light and meh.Which wines? Rose is pretty light, some can be excellent depending on situation. My wife and her friend had a St. Joseph with the caviar (which I questioned slightly), it was pretty meaty. I think wine does offer a broader range of tastes than beer.
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If you like Bud, you would have liked Falstaff. Or Schlitz. Or Miller. Etc.Don't like Bud, don't like Schlitz, don't like Miller. So I likely wouldn't have liked Falstaff either.
I suppose I'm not all that adventurous when it comes to beer. I don't want "remarkable" personally. I don't want "flavors" added, a good beer is fine with me, it can be an IPA if it's balanced (one could say they have flavors added of course). A nice well balanced ale or lager works for me.That's about where I am on beer.
I suppose I'm not all that adventurous when it comes to beer. I don't want "remarkable" personally. I don't want "flavors" added, a good beer is fine with me, it can be an IPA if it's balanced (one could say they have flavors added of course). A nice well balanced ale or lager works for me.Not sure why you'd equate "remarkable" with "flavors added" that's an odd attempted connection to draw.
anything beyond the 4 basic ingredients of beer "could be" considered adding somethingNot really.
anything made with one of those 4 missing could be considered - not beer
you know... like adding beans to chili
Many types of lambic beer require-- by definition-- the inclusion of fruit.fruit that they added to perfectly good be the produce a specific type
fruit that they added to perfectly good be the produce a specific typeIt's a subject I know and love.
utee likes to argue about beer
Well, I like basic kinds, mostly ales and lagers ...Well we can certainly agree on that!
anything beyond the 4 basic ingredients of beer "could be" considered adding somethingShut your whore mouth
anything made with one of those 4 missing could be considered - not beer
you know... like adding beans to chili
You too
I don't care for wheat beer either
It's a subject I know and love.Stick to smokin' your meat or sipping Tito's,next time I'll just send fearless to do my easy work
And the Flemish monasteries were making beer-- without and without fruit-- centuries before the proto-Germans ever imagined such a thing. Your narrow view of what beer should be, is shaped by the tedious rules and regulations established by the Germans in order to illegalize the products of other beer-producing regions that were much older and better at it.
So you're literally taking the beer-nazi view of things.
Pilsner's were made in the early 1800s hardly new.And it was actually a lighter version of lager which started where? You bloviating Bohemian. And the Germans just started making Helles Lager in response - it was a competive market before Bud/Miller,Molsons/Labatt.And it doesn't change the fact the Belgians weren't brewing first.So much for "fruits" of your research :D.Oh and New Mexico has much better chili than Texas
Indeed, I was in the biz, slightly a while back. Wine prices in France are very reasonable.Yes they are. They seem to view it as a table necessity that should be available to all regardless of means. Gotta love the French... :)
For the three months I was living/working in Nantes, I ate quite a few meals at the hotel, especially on weekdays because often I was too tired to go out and find a restaurant. After the first few weeks, the regular bartender Philippe, started inviting me to eat with the hotel staff. They always ate early (7 or so) in the main dining room, before any guests would come down to eat. So a couple of times per week, I'd eat with them. And because they were comp meals for the staff, served family style, Philippe never charged me. He claimed he had no way to do it, no code for it, but I think he just didn't want to bother.
But what I COULD do, what he COULD charge me for, was wine. So I always ordered a few bottles of whatever the staff told me they wanted that day. And even their best wines were priced reasonably enough that I could buy several bottles and still be within my corporate per diem meal limits. They started to really look forward to the days I'd eat with them, and I did, too.
It didn't hurt that the waitresses and front desk staff girls were all super-cute. I especially liked the young, sultry blonde Veronique.I'm not aware that creeping or being creepy has an age component
(I was only 23 so I wasn't creeping, she was at least 20 or 21 herself)
Chocolate .... beer?No chocolate is actually added to the beer. It's the roasted malt that develops some chocolatey notes.
No, chocolate is actually added to the beer.Ha.
I don't mind a mild hint of chocolate, but not too much in my beerYou might not even taste it as chocolate, it might bring something else entirely to mind, for you. But that's a pretty common descriptor that is used when talking about dark beers, due to the heavy roasting of the malt. Stouts, porters, dark Czech lagers, schwarzbiers-- all of them are often described as having hints of chocolate notes.
It's not unlike wines when they are described as charcoal or cigar box or toasty-- it's an attempt to describe the subtle, complex flavors that are coming through as a result of the tannins, or the oak barrels, or whatever else has imparted flavor to the wine.One actual used wine descriptor is "cat pee", really, usually with sauvignon blanc.
One actual used wine descriptor is "cat pee", really, usually with sauvignon blanc.Some of the ones for Scotch are just as weird. "Band-aid" and "dirty sweat socks" are not uncommon descriptors, especially for the Islay whiskys.
11 Of The Weirdest Wine Aromas | VinePair (https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/11-weirdest-wine-aromas/#:~:text=Cat's Pee,you often come in contact.)
I have liked nearly every dark beer I've tasted. But, at most, that's about a dozen different beers.I was reading one of the books about the 101st in Holland(Netherlands).A couple of the GIs took a German machine gun nest on top of a 4-5 story building.The Gerries in turn started dropping mortars on them and collapsing the roof as it caved in the GIs were saved about 15 ft down.It was stacked cases of Heineken,they were most happy in more ways than one.And the Gerries must have thought they were dead as they didn't return
I would apply the "dirty sweat sox" description (with the addition of "nicely aged") to green-bottle Heineken.
I'll drink Heineken and PBR in the same sittingreminds me when Id ask my dad which beer he liked hed say the one thats on sale that week
but, I'm not a beer snob
I'm a beer drinker
Guinness is pretty great-- for a Light Beer.Last March/April obviously after St Pat's Day we stopped at the local sports Bar that for the longest time had 2 dollar drafts. We use to procure Guinness at this price(felt like theft) any way they quit buying it in Kegs a while back because of the the price jump and the younger crowd doesn't seem to enjoy a good Draught as much.Well as luck would have it last spring they ordered quite a few kegs for ST, Paddy's Day and we reaped the windfall - at 2 Bucks :singing: .Couldn't believe it like ugly on a Steelers fan we were all over it .Was prolly myself and our small assembly that finished their reserve during the basketball tournament. I asked the lord if he could kindly arrange some kind of time warp for a few forlorn souls
I was gonna have a Coors light, but the Bud distributer was sitting a couple stools downHa back in the day(mid 90s) when Miller was still decent there were a couple of us Miller swillers surrounded by Bud guys. Anyway same-same Miller just unloaded their truck and was at the bar finishing paper work and bought us a couple
reminds me when Id ask my dad which beer he liked hed say the one thats on sale that weekMy dad use to buy kegs when my brothers and I were young and he had it in the cellar. With the washer/dryer,workshop,weights and furnace - none of those fancy-shmancy rec rooms like today. When I was in JR High after football me and some buddies would sometimes empty the contents if the folks weren't around. Of Course dad always suspected my one older brother and his friends .Well the ruse only lasted for so long until my brother threatened to stomp the snot out of me if I kept it up as he was catching some grief. Years later after the fridge died he'd buy find the cheapest sale in the county and stock up. Genessee was great on tap "Our One Brewery Makes It Best".
Last March/April obviously after St Pat's Day we stopped at the local sports Bar that for the longest time had 2 dollar drafts. We use to procure Guinness at this price(felt like theft) any way they quit buying it in Kegs a while back because of the the price jump and the younger crowd doesn't seem to enjoy a good Draught as much.Well as luck would have it last spring they ordered quite a few kegs for ST, Paddy's Day and we reaped the windfall - at 2 Bucks :singing: .Couldn't believe it like ugly on a Steelers fan we were all over it .Was prolly myself and our small assembly that finished their reserve during the basketball tournament. I asked the lord if he could kindly arrange some kind of time warp for a few forlorn soulsPints of Guinness at $2 is a crazy steal. Not sure I've seen prices like that around here since the late 90s. MAYBE early 2000s, but it's been close to 20 years anyway.
Increasing bouts of extreme heat waves and drought will hurt production of barley, a key beer ingredient, in the future. Losses of barley yield can be as much as 17 percent, an international group of researchers estimated.
That means beer prices on average would double, even adjusting for inflation, according to the study in Monday’s journal Nature Plants . In countries like Ireland, where cost of a brew is already high, prices could triple.
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I can drink a High Life when I must. Or a Coors Banquet.those three aren't much different
Budweiser? Never.
those three aren't much different
I think you might be jaded
I remember drinking Red White and Blue a fair bit. I probably killed my taste buds.Dead
One restaurant downtown Athens just off campus had Schlitz Dark which I thought was pretty good at the time. . . .There was a Pizza restaurant in Norman that had Schlitz Dark. I too thought that it was pretty good.
420 Extra Pale Ale - SweetWater Brewing Company (https://www.sweetwaterbrew.com/brews/420-extra-pale-ale/)
They don't call it a pils. I like it well enough, I prefer Sam Adams. They used to sell and ale I really liked.
39 IBUs.
420 is 5.7% ABV, so over your limit. I like it pretty well on a hotter day sharing one with my wife. If I let her, she'll open Champagne at the drop of a derby. Sometimes when I don't.I don't have quite that cachet, so I keep a lineup of Prosecco in the fridge. I guess I've reached the "ladies of a certain age" stage. They'll drink it mixed with any fruit juice I have on-hand.
When it comes to beer, I only like ales and lagers.
I limit the IBUs not the ABV%O-I-C
my experience is if the ABV is around 5%, I limit the IBUs to 30
but, if the ABV is say 8-10%, then I can handle 40-50 IBU
420 Extra Pale Ale - SweetWater Brewing Company (https://www.sweetwaterbrew.com/brews/420-extra-pale-ale/)I thought that Sam's Boston Ale was much, much better than the Boston Lager.
They don't call it a pils. I like it well enough, I prefer Sam Adams. They used to sell and ale I really liked.
39 IBUs.
I thought that Sam's Boston Ale was much, much better than the Boston Lager.I liked it better, some better, I'd buy it again if they sold it. I worked with a lot of smelly organosulfure compounds back in the day, think skunk plus. My smeller is probably toasted. I got a minor whiff of one and immediately threw up it was so bad. It's apparently nontoxic and could make a handy crowd control agent.
I thought that Sam's Boston Ale was much, much better than the Boston Lager.
I prefer a Heineken (even in a green bottle), over the tastelessness of a coors light or miller liteTo me, Miller Lite, going on 50 years ago anyway, had an "off" taste to it. It was not tasteless.
I think it's funny that the chart starts with "drop the Keystone Light". If you have more than one Keystone Light, you don't care about the taste at all. You're deliberately drinking it for the alcohol (I guess).if you're drinkin a 4.2 light for the alcohol......... well, you could do better
I think more malt/less hops as noted would be "smoother" (or rounder in my parlance).I guess maybe this is what they were going for? But then the ale=smooth lager=crisp dichotomy doesn't really hold because there are plenty of ales that are bitter and over-hopped and I wouldn't describe as "smooth" at all.
I hear that about making pinot noir, you can't hide mistakes with it. Well, you can, Meomi who makes a popular brand adds in some syrah. Otherwise, pinot is difficult to grow and to vinify.Isn't it fairly common in making varietals, to blend in at least a little bit of another grape? For some reason I thought the definition meant it had to be something like 95% main varietal, but up to 5% could be a blend of other grapes?
As for beer, I think it's a fine thing overallI mean, that's a good thing, seeing as you're posting on the BEER thread and all...
I wonder if French cuisine is something that a decreasing percentage of the American public enjoys. We don't get many immigrants from France. Our growing immigration is from south of the border, South/Southeast/East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.
I think it is, it's been subsumed in all the Asian and Hispanic fare. Italian restaurants seem able to persist though.Maybe this is just my perception, but Italian food seems like it works for the wealthy and the working class and everything in between. French food--perhaps wrongly, perhaps from the stereotypical image of French waiters--seems much more elitist. I don't think I've ever been in a French restaurant, and I doubt that I have had any "French" dish that hasn't been thoroughly Americanized, like when crepes were a big thing 30-40 years ago. I only know of one French restaurant in Tulsa (I'm sure that there are several more but I don't know about them), but I can list half a dozen or more Italian restaurants off the top of my head. And that's not counting the pizza restaurants.
My Dad would let me have a sip of his Budweiser when I was ~10 (my Mom hated that). Being used to sugary drinks, I of course thought beer was horrible. I never thought I'd drink it, ever, but of course that changed. I had my first pizza when I was 16, I went out with my sister and her BF to a pizza place, I thought pepperoni pizza was way too spicy. I started liking beer in college because I had to, everyone else did, and it went pretty well with pepperoni pizza, which I also started to like. (We had very bland food when I was growing up.)Schlitz Dark was the first dark beer I ever had too. It was served at a pizza parlor about a mile off-campus in Norman. I thought it was really good. Maybe it was just good with pizza.
I discovered Schlitz Dark at a place just off campus where I'd eat lunch and it went down pretty well too. Then I fell into drinking with a dorm friend Friday nights, usually whatever 12 pack was cheapest, RW&B usually. I tried to like wine, because it seemed to be a cool hip sophisticated thing to do, but it didn't taste good.
I recall in grad school I'd buy a bottle of Lancer's Vin Rose' in case I had a date I wanted to impress, I learned that cooking dinner for a date was a good idea. That Lancers was high end stuff for me. Mostly by that time I'd drink beer, we had a group who went to one bar every Thursday night for drinking, usually a Bid Light kind of thing.
My wine story is pretty typical, going through the various stages of liking wine. I fell in with a couple folks who really knew wine and got interested, and then met more folks, and went to a wine tasting every Friday which really expanded my world of wine.
I was surprised to learn the addition of hops is relatively recent. Maybe that was added as a preservative and became a flavor component?Yes that's exactly what happened.
I wonder if the different legal environment for beer after 1978 encouraged the growth of microbreweries in addition to home-brewing.Absolutely. The origin stories of many of the original American microbreweries start with home-brewing clubs and coops and such.
Like a lot of hobbies, I've had countless friends invest in all the funky stuff you need to home-brew. As Utee referenced, they usually end up spending $250 to ferment some sour water in barely carbonated trash. Most get distracted and move on to another hobby once they realize that vast amounts of cheap beer isn't in their immediate future.2010s: Beer Happenings
Like a lot of hobbies, I've had countless friends invest in all the funky stuff you need to home-brew. As Utee referenced, they usually end up spending $250 to ferment some sour water in barely carbonated trash. Most get distracted and move on to another hobby once they realize that vast amounts of cheap beer isn't in their immediate future.Yeah my friend Bald Greg-- who I ran the tailgate with for all those years-- actually got pretty good at it after a few years of not-so-great results. But once we became friends with Chip at Live Oak and got free high-quality beer any time we wanted it, he pretty much stopped brewing and hit the Easy button.
I do have a few friends that stuck with it, kept a book on their successes and failures, realized the importance of going slow, CLEANING ALL YOUR GEAR, and studying others advice, and they eventually created a living drink that could be enjoyed.
If you are traveling somewhere, say the beach a long way from home, and want a 12 pack of beer, what are you buying, presuming you're at a 7/11 or grocery store, not some special beer place?depends on my mood and where I'm at and the weather(environment if inside)
I'd go for Sam Adams for me, my wife like Corona at the beach, I'd get her some, or 420 if they had that. (I like 420 better than Corona by a lot.)
But presume whatever you drink that is local is not available.
From what I can tell, most cars today are highly reliable. You can get a clunker from anyone. You might buy Honda that has problems and a Toyota that runs for half a million miles, or vice versa. Our GTI never had anything go wrong, so far, except two tires that got nails or something.just what kind of beer did that Porsche drink
It's really a Porsche of course ...
From what I can tell, most cars today are highly reliable. You can get a clunker from anyone. You might buy Honda that has problems and a Toyota that runs for half a million miles, or vice versa. Our GTI never had anything go wrong, so far, except two tires that got nails or something.you seem to be harder on tires than average Joe
It's really a Porsche of course ...
you seem to be harder on tires than average JoeA tire picked up a nail somewhere too close to the sidewall. Then my wife hit something that tore the tire up, complete flat. I actually changed the tire for the spare. The car now has about 31 K miles on it, the tires look decent still. Sometimes the unlock feature doesn't unlock and I have to use the key fob, oh misery.
I'm surprised that Toyota was using drum brakes in 2010.
I'm surprised that Toyota was using drum brakes in 2010.Yup, I agree that drum brakes are just fine for a lower end vehicle. Simpler, and not a safety issue with cars meant to be driven "normally".
We were in Cincy staying in a motel 4 nights and I went out to find some beer for the room and stopped at a Shell station nearby that had a refrigerated room with beer. No Sam Adams anywhere. I ended up with Modelo Dark, which I hadn't had in a long time, it was "OK", my wife thought it fine. By "OK" I mean I drank it, but I wouldn't get it again. They had all sorts of beer, but nothing decent really, it was a bit odd, I was too lazy to find another place.There's a difference in making a run-on landing and landing to a point on the ground. In the former case, you're reducing power and altitude while you maintain the desired touch-down speed. Pretty much like an airplane, I'd say. Except that there are no flaps to worry about, because with a helicopter you can maintain a steep approach angle without causing you to have a high forward airspeed. When you get into ground effect, you've got to reduce some more power and fly the bird onto the runway. In landing to a point, you essentially come to a high-forward hover while continuing to reduce power until you come to a near-stop just as you touch down. All of that is assuming that you've got sufficient power. If you're marginal on power (due to density altitude and your aircraft's weight), then you might have to use a rolling takeoff and a run-on landing. Doing a "rolling" takeoff in a helicopter with skids is a nice trick. Helicopter pilots in Vietnam had to do a lot of that.
The old neighborhood has barely changed since we left five years back. My wife commented on that. The old Blue Ash airport is now a development which is OK.
I used to fly in and out of there at times when I was learning, I had a few pretty bounced landings as I recall before I got the hang of it. I don't know if landing a chopper is something that requires a certain "feel", I have a notion it does, you probably get into ground effect and might flare early or something?
The oldest continuously operating brewery in the world is located at Weihenstephan Abbey in Bavaria, Germany. The Benedictine monks at Weihenstephan began brewing beer in 1040 AD.Yup, them monks know beer.
I usually order wine, tea, or water at Indian restaurants. I should check and see if either of my two faves have any Indian beer.I had two kinds, they were fine, not amazing, they had weird names, one sounded German, the other was like 1492 or somesuch. I had three, now that I recall, one was named something like Taj Mahal.
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life is good
even with Joe in the white house!
In my experience it matters very little who is in the white house. Joe's fine, the guy before him was fine aside from some mean tweets, the guy before him was fine, and so on.
Just keep them suds flowing.
The President gets blamed, and credited, for things well outside his purview, often as not.Yup
. . . I was musing about the beers of my "youth", Stroh came out, "fire brewed", whatever that meant, it wasn't very good. Coors was very rare so folks liked it. I recall Heineken and St. Pauli Girl in bottles, they were pricey. Schlitz was around, and dark Schlitz. Red White and Bllue, cheaper PBR.I remember Schlitz dark with great fondness.
Old Mil and Busch were cheaper Bud and Miller, I think. . . .
Kinda funny on how Day One after it ended they had all those bottles of beer handy ....They had been legally selling 3.2 beer from March to December 1933, and they had spent the entire Prohibition era selling soft drinks, many of which came in dark bottles back in "the day."
mmmmm beer and corny dogs...looks like something that someone with those fingernails might enjoy
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