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Cincydawg

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Re: Beer
« Reply #140 on: October 29, 2019, 08:14:00 AM »
When I was in college, we had maybe 10 beer types available, and several were cheaper versions of the main one, like RW&B and PBR.

They all tasted pretty much the same, and "Coors" was this extremely rare magical stuff that I thought was favored by folks who don't like beer taste.  We also had Stroh, which was "fire brewed".  No one every explained to me why that was some kind of a thing.  There were a couple of German beers in some stores here and there, St, Pauli Girl I recall, and Heineken, but we couldn't afford them.  One bar downtown had Schlitz Dark on tap and I really liked that stuff.  Miller Lite was off in the future.

Bud, Miller, Schlitz, PBR, Stroh, and derivatives.  That was basically IT.  

Compare that with today, it's pretty amazing.  I have to credit Sam Adams in part for this revolution.  Europeans used to scoff at US beers for obvious reason.

I was in Seattle in 1988 (or so) at a conference and chanced upon this thing called a "brew pub".  It was fascinating, they made their own beer on site, and had great salmon sandwiches.  What a concept.  They had DIFFERENT beers that really tasted GOOD and not like horse piss in the rain.

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« Reply #141 on: October 29, 2019, 11:20:15 AM »
Yup, craft brew revolution in the USA has given us a lot more variety and choice.  I used to have to drink nothing but Euro beers since our own were so bad.  Life is good.

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« Reply #142 on: October 29, 2019, 11:59:05 AM »
yup, back in college I drank the St, Pauli Girl and Heineken, when someone else was buying

preferred the Grolsch in the flip top bottle when available

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« Reply #143 on: October 29, 2019, 01:57:55 PM »
The wife and I remind ourselves daily of "Good Things".  It's easy to spiral down into thinking Life is Awful (and there are times, I'm just back from the dentist).

The profusion of good beer is a good thing.  Of course, some of the "experiments" are not to our liking, but we have so many choices.  I'm happy with a Samuel Adams, quite happy in fact.  Goose Island I like.  If I feel like a lighter beer, the Sweetwater 420 Ale is excellent (to me).  And this is grocery store beer, not something I can get at however many brew pubs are around me today.

I'm warm, have plenty to eat and drink, I live in a pretty safe environment, pollution is way down from 1970, cars today are fantastic, even some Cadillacs have over 600 hp.

Wine down here is incredibly cheap, and Costco has a BOX WINE (their own brand) that is incredibly quaffable (bit not transcendent) at $3.50 a bottle equivalent.

And TVs.  Holy cow are TVs fantastic today, and "cheap".  Most of us are old enough to have watched sports on some 13" B&W TV where you had to stand just so to get decent reception.

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« Reply #144 on: October 29, 2019, 02:47:53 PM »
life is good, until your football team only wins 4 games in a season
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« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2019, 03:37:00 PM »
life is good, until your football team only wins 4 games in a season
So, you're not a Bengals fan then?

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« Reply #146 on: October 29, 2019, 04:10:21 PM »
not even during the Ickey shuffle daze
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« Reply #147 on: October 29, 2019, 08:48:10 PM »
Heineken is stinky beer.  How we ever thought--back in college--that it was something special is beyond me.
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« Reply #148 on: October 29, 2019, 09:06:39 PM »
Heineken draft is ok.  But the green bottles do it no favors.  The beer goes bad due to light-strike which sets off a chemical reaction starting with riboflavin and ending with a skunky smelling/tasting compound called 3-MBT,  I'm sure CincyDawg could explain it way better than I can.

Clear and green bottles are bad, brown bottles are a little better, but cans are the only individual-sized transport vessel that are impervious to light-strike and they're also better sealed against oxidation.

Anyway, like I said before the draft version doesn't get that skunky taste, but it's still not a great beer.  It's always surprised me that a mediocre beer from the Netherlands became much more popular in the US than a bunch of really fantastic beers from Holland's neighbor, Belgium-- but such is the power of marketing.

 

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« Reply #149 on: October 29, 2019, 09:19:15 PM »
I've never had Heineken draft.  But out of a green bottle, it's bad stuff.
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« Reply #150 on: October 29, 2019, 09:59:29 PM »
I'm with you, I won't drink it either.

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Re: Beer
« Reply #151 on: October 30, 2019, 08:01:40 AM »
In Europe, it's "OK".  I have not found Europe to have the profusion of beers we have here, maybe I'm too wine-centric.

Bars will have 2-3 taps usually, name brand beers I recognize.  I guess they have local breweries somewhere.

I did find some whiskey they are making in Brittany that was pretty good/interesting, a micro type.  They grow a good bit of corn there, mostly for cattle.  The French people by and large don't eat much corn.  They don't even seem to have grits.

Alsace does have some good beers, and they grow a lot of hops there of course, but it has been Germany in the past a few times.  Interesting region, they even have their own language (as do Bretons and some areas in the south, like Languedoc, which means language of the Occitanes, apparently related to Catalonian.




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« Reply #152 on: October 30, 2019, 03:28:28 PM »
To be clear, France is similar to Spain and Italy regarding beer, but is really nothing at all like Germany, Belgium, Czech Republic, or the UK.  Way more options for beer in those latter countries.

Even so, outside of a couple of large cities in Belgium, the local bars tend to carry the local beers.  So you still might only see 3-4 taps at a Belgian beer bar.  One could be a major national pilsner/lager like Maes, Jupluer, or Stella Artois.  The other three taps are likely to be all from the local monastery, so there might be a golden ale, a brown ale, and a dubbel or trippel ale, all from the same local/regional brewery.  Most of those local ales are bottled, and bottle-conditioned, and served to you in the exactly appropriate glass.

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Re: Beer
« Reply #153 on: October 30, 2019, 04:06:43 PM »
Football season and Beer is back to the top.

Yep, Texas and OU both lost.

 

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