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Happy Hunting
https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Football/TransferPortal/
Michael Fletcher from MSU looks interesting
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I was thinking this needed its own, long-term thread, but wasn't sure when to do it. Let the games begin!
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wonder if Travis Hunter hits the portal and follows Deion to Colorado or if he looks somewhere else.
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former 2022 5* CB Denver Harris hits the portal and is leaving A&M. He's one of the A&M players that got suspended from the team for smoking weed in the locker room. Talented af, but I think I'd pass.
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Good Point about Travis evidently has the tools unless he's too close to home and doesn't want to leave
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former 2022 5* CB Denver Harris hits the portal and is leaving A&M. He's one of the A&M players that got suspended from the team for smoking weed in the locker room. Talented af, but I think I'd pass.
Von Miller says hello
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former 2022 5* CB Denver Harris hits the portal and is leaving A&M. He's one of the A&M players that got suspended from the team for smoking weed in the locker room. Talented af, but I think I'd pass.
Why Mazi has a pending Felony,hippy lettuce ? Hell you couldn't field a punt return team if everyone came clean
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couple Nebraska ones look interesting to me...LB Ernest Hausmann and DB Jaeden Gould.
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Thanx for the heads up I'll e-mail C-Bus as RD seems to forget about that side of the ball
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DB JQ Hardaway from Cinci looks real interesting too. I'll bet he follows Fickell to Wisconsin.
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Florida safety McMillon is in the portal. He was unremarkable in a bad pass defense.
Originally a 4*, top 200 overall prospect, from PA.
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Gimme ratings I'm trying to help
the Death Star,er Pluto
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LB Ernest Hausmann is legit
the CB, not so much
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DJ Ungalelililiey is open for business! Now, now, don't all fight each other for his services!!!
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DJ Ungalelililiey is open for business! Now, now, don't all fight each other for his services!!!
he should go to the MAC or something like that.
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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2022/12/135827/ohio-state-safety-jaylen-johnson-enters-transfer-portal
A redshirt freshman safety who did not play in any games in his two seasons with the Buckeyes, Johnson entered the portal on Monday morning, the first day of the transfer portal’s new entry window that will allow players to enter the portal for the next 45 days, according to multiple reports.
Ohio State DB Jaylen Johnson has entered the portal,
@247SportsPortal (https://twitter.com/247SportsPortal)
has learned. He was ranked as the No. 406 overall player in the 2021 class.
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https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1599595680120852480?s=20&t=NYbyDybsjEL4_i-1fZo7VA
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1599765551424757760?s=20&t=_VImgXFBL2WimhcxBWGs-g
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Michigan reportedly looking at this guy, he was 2nd team All-ACC at CB in coaches & media All-ACC teams and 1st team All-ACC on PFF's All-Conference teams. With Mikey S coming back at nickel and Will Johnson developing into a star at outside CB, this would be a reallllll niiiice addition....
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1599780713959927809?s=20&t=FfcXxv7MB9uBQ579lqPtTQ
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Every damn one is gonna be after the UVA kid.
Someone pointed out, a starting Alabama player leaving means he likely already has his landing place picked out.
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Every damn one is gonna be after the UVA kid.
Someone pointed out, a starting Alabama player leaving means he likely already has his landing place picked out.
yes, but is the UVA kid looking at them in return. early wots is....he's looking at Michigan. Olu Oluwatimi has been a feather in Michigan's cap so far in that one.
It's really weird seeing a kid starting at Bama leave. Makes no sense to me.
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Alabama G Javion Cohen has announced that he is entering the transfer portal
Zero sacks allowed in his college career
Pay attention Day quit begging Jaxon and get on the stick
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hey Iowa you can have Cade McNamara and Erick All if you give us him....MAN Junior Colson and Jestin Jacobs would be a bomb ass ILB duo. Michigan D would be gnarly in 2023 if they could somehow land this kid and the UVA CB.
https://twitter.com/DavidEickholt/status/1599924897828020224?s=20&t=GFtlAL27C1DoiIVdy9WMtA
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https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1599899354260967429?s=20&t=1t0fNy8RTO2-CQxbkw6xrw
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https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/1599929840156786688?s=20&t=TzxMeHOv6rtkW9cwsaI_jQ
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This is madness. I can't imagine being a HC.
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This is madness. I can't imagine being a HC.
you ain't lying. apparently over 1,000 kids hit the portal today. complete insanity.
recruiting has got to SUCK- you have do these dog and pony shows and freaking beg snot nosed entitled brat 16 and 17 and 18 year olds to come play for you- then when you do get them to come play for you then you have to walk on eggshells and appease 19-20-21 year olds so they won't hit the portal at first sign of any tiny little bit of adversity. F THAT. could see Jim going back to the NFL honestly. who the f wants to be coach in the P5 and deal with that bullshit when you have options to coach in the NFL?
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https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1599942721900544000?s=20&t=KEpNSNjbLk2TQg10AaI1KQ
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Holy S.
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https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1599942721900544000?s=20&t=KEpNSNjbLk2TQg10AaI1KQ
Well that should make everything a lot simpler...
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https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1600123109872267264?s=20&t=B2TXixujqt3OeqbZre-nZg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqtZmPEZbFU
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https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1599942721900544000?s=20&t=KEpNSNjbLk2TQg10AaI1KQ
Ruh-Roh guess you can't fill the cart before check out w/o reading the small print.Not a bad rule IMHO
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Rivals lists the best RB in the portal as Wake Forest RB Christian Turner, who played his first three years at Michigan.
So in 2020, Michigan had Hassan Haskins, Zach Charbonnet, Blake Corum, Christian Turner, and Chris Evans, and went 2-4, finished #11 in the Big Ten in rushing.
I think one of the more interesting what-ifs, is that if Michigan hadn't opted out of the end of the season, and instead played (and presumably lost by 50) Ohio State, would Harbaugh have even had the option to return?
Not playing that game, may have delivered Michigan these back to back Big Ten championships
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This is madness. I can't imagine being a HC.
opportunities
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Rivals lists the best RB in the portal as Wake Forest RB Christian Turner, who played his first three years at Michigan.
So in 2020, Michigan had Hassan Haskins, Zach Charbonnet, Blake Corum, Christian Turner, and Chris Evans, and went 2-4, finished #11 in the Big Ten in rushing.
I think one of the more interesting what-ifs, is that if Michigan hadn't opted out of the end of the season, and instead played (and presumably lost by 50) Ohio State, would Harbaugh have even had the option to return?
Not playing that game, may have delivered Michigan these back to back Big Ten championships
Had to look it up, kinda surprises me Rivals has him as he the best RB in the portal when he only averaged 4 ypc and ran for roughly 500 yards this season. You’d think there has to be better RB’s in the portal.
Turner had nice burst when he was at Michigan just needed to get little bigger and had fumbling issues if I recall correctly. Sounds exactly like current true frosh RB CJ Stokes.
And yeah, you’re right. Canceling that OSU game might’ve saved Jeem’s hide.
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opportunities
Yeah, initially. But like everything else, it's bastardized itself into players holding their HC hostage for playing time and/or $$$ like HCs hold their schools hostage sniffing other offers to get a big raise.
The sheer volume of it all is nuts.
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Former Georgia quarterback JT Daniels reportedly re-entering transfer portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Former-Georgia-quarterback-JT-Daniels-reportedly-re-entering-transfer-portal-199748131/?fbclid=IwAR0PnLM1rPvpEjCkALAQQOKSFpcCEcVQTMf_TU_9iAP5S4y-DYYImUwVOaI)
I have some sympathy for this guy, but bouncing around like this isn't making for a good look at all. USC->UGA->WVU-> ...
He has a strong arm and is tall which about makes for a five star, but those things are not even necessary necessarily.
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Former Georgia quarterback JT Daniels reportedly re-entering transfer portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Former-Georgia-quarterback-JT-Daniels-reportedly-re-entering-transfer-portal-199748131/?fbclid=IwAR0PnLM1rPvpEjCkALAQQOKSFpcCEcVQTMf_TU_9iAP5S4y-DYYImUwVOaI)
I have some sympathy for this guy, but bouncing around like this isn't making for a good look at all. USC->UGA->WVU-> ...
He has a strong arm and is tall which about makes for a five star, but those things are not even necessary necessarily.
damn that's gotta be 4 teams in like 4-5 years. the kid screwed up reclassifying. Ewers at Ohio St did same thing. Just be a HS senior and develop your game more....why rush to college?
Hard to not call this kid a bust. And I think his biggest problem is his lack of mobility. Stetson can RUN. I think that's the model you need todays cfb at QB. Need a guy who is a passer obviously- but he also needs to be able to make plays with his feet and escape pressure.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Ga4yHGr.png)
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my complete guess here is....he's staying put in Wisconsin. if he was gonna hit the portal...he would've done it by now.
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just saw this on 247....Alabama had 27 signees in their 2019 class which was the #1 class in America. They've had 21 players of that class transfer out. That means only SIX players from what should be the seniors/rs jrs and leaders on their team this year left. 78% of that class transferred out. That's insane.
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Daniels is not a bust in my view, he has some skills, mobility is of course not his forte'. I presume he wants to play on Sunday and figures he needs a team with a great OL perhaps in a lesser league to show his wares.
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Former Georgia quarterback JT Daniels reportedly re-entering transfer portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Former-Georgia-quarterback-JT-Daniels-reportedly-re-entering-transfer-portal-199748131/?fbclid=IwAR0PnLM1rPvpEjCkALAQQOKSFpcCEcVQTMf_TU_9iAP5S4y-DYYImUwVOaI)
I have some sympathy for this guy, but bouncing around like this isn't making for a good look at all. USC->UGA->WVU-> ...
He has a strong arm and is tall which about makes for a five star, but those things are not even necessary necessarily.
Kids get over focused on brand in the portal era.
Go to NIU, throw for 4,000 yards. Stop going to situations that will thin you out.
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just saw this on 247....Alabama had 27 signees in their 2019 class which was the #1 class in America. They've had 21 players of that class transfer out. That means only SIX players from what should be the seniors/rs jrs and leaders on their team this year left. 78% of that class transferred out. That's insane.
Econmy hit the bagmen hard,no so with St Nick :111:
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https://twitter.com/Pete_Nakos96/status/1600197126935678976?s=20&t=S3ZHZ_PDztmE5Eo13uvVqg
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Husker legacy receiver Keagan Johnson gets a Nebraska offer after entering the transfer portal out of Iowa.
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No one is exactly sure what happened with Daniels this year. First month of the season he looked like the QB we hoped he would be, but when the calendar hit October he started regressing. He’d have a bad game, then a pretty good game, then a bad game, and so on.
There was speculation maybe he was playing though an injury. Then after a terrible performance against Iowa St when he went 8-22 for 81 yards Neal Brown was finally asked if he was injured and his response was, “You will have to ask him.” The problem with that was WVU had stopped making him available to the media.
The next week against Oklahoma he starts off the game by throwing a terrible pick and then just flat missing two easy throws. They pulled him from the game and he was never seen from, heard from, or talked about again.
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JT Daniels = Tate Martell
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Anyone moving around that much is a chode. Pure and simple.
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OKST QB Spencer Sanders
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Florida RB Lorenzo Lingard, former 5*........can't get on the field. Boo hoo.
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17 Gators have entered the portal.....mostly guys that can't get on the field.
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Florida RB Lorenzo Lingard, former 5*........can't get on the field. Boo hoo.
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17 Gators have entered the portal.....mostly guys that can't get on the field.
I mean yeah, unless they are getting a sweet NIL deal, that's going to be 90% of cases. Same as before. Just more guys now because they don't have to sit out, and they can have open communication.
I also appreciate the guys posting they are going to the Draft, when actually they are out of eligibility, simply because with the redshirting rules, and the COVID year, I honestly don't know where anyone is in their eligibility anymore
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It's hopeless to attempt to keep tabs on this.
I don't know how these preseason mags can even try to publish by June the way they historically have.
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It's hopeless to attempt to keep tabs on this.
I don't know how these preseason mags can even try to publish by June the way they historically have.
And it's a crapshoot how the new talent integrates. That's why I stopped even trying with the countdown
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And it's a crapshoot how the new talent integrates. That's why I stopped even trying with the countdown
this is a really good point. the odds of striking gold on a transfer like Jameson Williams and really hitting are probably 1 out of every 10. Williams was a talented player buried on the depth chart at Ohio State and couldn't really get on the field- and never really showed anything in games on tape that he'd be what he was for Alabama. Could probably say the same thing of Joe Burrow. Most of these transfers probably are not going to work out- and especially not at that insane high end level like those two.
Michigan struck gold with Olu Oluwatimi at center, but he was already an established starting All-Conference center who was runner up for the Rimington Award. That is what's crazy to me- is guys that are already established stars transferring looking to join better teams or for more NIL $- like Jordan Addison being the Biletnikoff winner at Pitt then up and leaving for USC. Almost has a feel like the NBA where guys just leaving bad teams to go form super teams.
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It's hopeless to attempt to keep tabs on this.
I don't know how these preseason mags can even try to publish by June the way they historically have.
No one loves preseason mags more than me, but I haven't bought one in years. For one, they're like $12 now, when they used to be $5-6. Second, I'd feel stupid paying for something I can effortlessly find online, and more up-to-date.
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P5 teams with double digit portal entries...
TX A&M-21
Oregon-15
Bama-14
Florida-14
Oklahoma-13
Maryland-13
N Carolina-11
Miami(Fla)-11
Va Tech-10
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Edge defender Jimari Butler becomes the 10th Husker scholarship player to enter the transfer portal.
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Some teams are hemorrhaging players at a remarkable rate. I've never seen this before.
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Some teams are hemorrhaging players at a remarkable rate. I've never seen this before.
it’s flat out not sustainable…they’ve got to make significant changes to the portal and implement clear guidelines and rules for NIL.
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it’s flat out not sustainable…they’ve got to make significant changes to the portal and implement clear guidelines and rules for NIL.
They can keep all the NIL stuff, and the portal. Just put the one year sit out rule back in, and remove waivers. I think that would solve 95% of it.
I'm not a Pitt fan, but Pitt literally hit their ceiling last year, with an ACC Championship, and a NY6 bowl. They had a Heisman Finalist QB, and the best WR in the nation. Instead those guys sat out a "meaningless" Peach Bowl, and the WR took $1 million to go to USC. They got a transfer QB from USC, who left for no apparent reason, he started every game. But they added the Boston College starting QB, who transferred to BC from ND.
What is the incentive to be a Pitt fan? Your peak is a top 5 bowl that nobody cares about, and your best players skip, and then leave. That's why I'm all for playoff expansion if the rest of the postseason is completely irrelevant. I was listening to a podcast discussing Mel Tucker, and whether he was worth the money, if he can't even hit Dantonio levels. The counter point was that nobody cares if your program hits Dantonio levels anymore. You are either a regular CFP participant, and an actual contender, or you aren't. The difference between 9-3 and 3-9 is negligible, so even if Mel Tucker crashes and burns, he did so trying to get the types of players who could *potentially* make MSU relevant. In the current climate, the Dantonio MSU really would not have been. Hell, it's not even 2012 anymore, let alone 1992.
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Some teams are hemorrhaging players at a remarkable rate. I've never seen this before.
not just teams changing coaches?
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not just teams changing coaches?
I think I saw Miami is up to 12
It's also hard to track because of the COVID stuff. MSU has had multiple players "announce for the draft" but nobody knows their eligibility status. I think they have legitimately had 5 players enter the portal (one being a walk on). But between the redshirt rules, and the COVID year, I have no idea where anybody's eligiblity sits.
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Some teams are hemorrhaging players at a remarkable rate. I've never seen this before.
Good thing us fans are normal as hell,salt of the earth types or salty types what evs
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Drake Maye is staying put. Very likely the #1 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft imo.
https://twitter.com/DrakeMaye2/status/1600643212481372160?s=20&t=bJz6Od4fG7zNvK4b6e0now
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Drake Maye is staying put. Very likely the #1 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft imo.
https://twitter.com/DrakeMaye2/status/1600643212481372160?s=20&t=bJz6Od4fG7zNvK4b6e0now
So was Sam Howell at the same point in his UNC career
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This portal and NIL needs some guidelines,too much tampering and agents prowling on gullible young guys.Heard that a lot of kids end up losing their schollie when pulling up stakes then find no takers - just some empty promises that weren't brought to fruition.Forfitting a chance for a paid education a lot of down side and slippery slope type of shyt
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This portal and NIL needs some guidelines,too much tampering and agents prowling on gullible young guys.Heard that a lot of kids end up losing their schollie when pulling up stakes then find no takers - just some empty promises that weren't brought to fruition.Forfitting a chance for a paid education a lot of down side and slippery slope type of shyt
But whose fault is that? The players have agency in their lives, they make their own decisions. I don't agree there should be some systemic or institutional regulations in place to save these guys from their own stupidity.
I've said all along that we should expect the Wild Wild West for a few years, but that things will settle down and stabilize over time. Borderline kids will eventually learn that the portal isn't some guaranteed solution to their problems.
And similarly, the money-slinging NIL sponsors will eventually figure out they're not getting the ROI they'd hoped for, when throwing cash at recruits or transfers.
Equilibrium will be reached, but it was always going to be messy getting there.
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I wonder if A&M is driving the portal entries or if players are fleeing A&M.
Most of the guys leaving are trouble makers and players who will never see the field.
And then, how many players are transferring in ?
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But whose fault is that? The players have agency in their lives, they make their own decisions. I don't agree there should be some systemic or institutional regulations in place to save these guys from their own stupidity.
I'm not crying a river that they made their own bed,but many were funneled that way. Just a buyer beware type warning seminar's.I'm sure some responsible adults along the way may be helping.They could be signing their career away like many of the boy bands from unscrupulous agents
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There may come a time when I lose interest in CFB (hopefully not before the Dawgs collapse and are 2-10....).
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So was Sam Howell at the same point in his UNC career
And this is why how many returning players a team has doesn't matter all that much.
UNC's case is funny.
Howell has a big year with 2 great RBs and good WRs.
They all leave, Howell returns.
UNC is ranked in the top 15, top 10.
UNC stinks.
Howell leaves.
UNC is unranked.
Maye comes in, plays as good or better than Howell.
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Rinse, repeat.
People are inordinately obsessed with QBs.
QBs stink without all their fun toys to play with.
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I agree with Marcus. Let the initial craziness settle down, give it a few more years. And let NIL settle down. Maybe even rich guys will grow bored of paying big bucks every year with the same results. I can see it kinda getting to the point where only a handful of great players are getting real nil money every year, like the Bryce Young types and the rest are getting low five figures.
I read that a former OU TE is transferring back from USCE. Talk about full circle.
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I'd think coaches would love the portal
easy way to shed scholarships from kids that aren't going to play and reuse them
easy way for a new coach to clean out the current roster of kids that don't buy in to what he's sellin
seems to be taking scholarships away from a good percentage of kids
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I'd think coaches would love the portal
easy way to shed scholarships from kids that aren't going to play and reuse them
easy way for a new coach to clean out the current roster of kids that don't buy in to what he's sellin
seems to be taking scholarships away from a good percentage of kids
The problem is with NIL, guys don't just leave because they aren't playing enough. So it also forces you to play true freshman who are ready, and would otherwise transfer and you have to recruit your own roster every year
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yes, you have to recruit your own roster, but you can also unrecruit your own roster to open up spots for kids you'd rather have
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Okay, so I have like 7 LBs that aren't walk-ons on the roster, and only 4 of them play. 1 kid stays because he loves it here, but 2 enter the portal to go play elsewhere.
Great.
So I get to bring in 2 other LBs who I think might play....but they don't know the system and left their own school either because they didn't play enough or want a bunch of money.
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I traded 2 known commodities for a guy no better than they were and another who is a chode. And I'm not sure either will take playing time away from the 4 already contributing on the field.
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Grrrrrreat!
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If your team is pretty bad, swapping out, on average, should be an improvement. A second stringer from an upper level team should help a lower level team and play.
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Okay, so I have like 7 LBs that aren't walk-ons on the roster, and only 4 of them play. 1 kid stays because he loves it here, but 2 enter the portal to go play elsewhere.
Great.
one of them ends up in the FCS
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I think the portal is helping about 25% of the kids that enter - they find more playing time or more money or just a better situation overall
about 25% find a very similar situation with different scenery
about 50% end up in a lesser situation (FCS, JuCo, no scholarship, or struggling to learn a new system and again looking up the depth chart)
until the kids realize this or get better advice from parents and coaches this is just a better way for coaches to manage rosters
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I'm guessing coaches often "counsel" certain players to depart and portal out, covertly perhaps, or with subtlty. As noted above, it's roster management, especially if you can sign a premium freshman class.
"Hey, Ryan, hate to tell ya, but the HC doesn't think you are cutting it here. You won't play much next year."
How much does the top player make off NIL?
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I'm guessing coaches often "counsel" certain players to depart and portal out, covertly perhaps, or with subtlty. As noted above, it's roster management, especially if you can sign a premium freshman class.
"Hey, Ryan, hate to tell ya, but the HC doesn't think you are cutting it here. You won't play much next year."
How much does the top player make off NIL?
They absolutely do. In the business it's called "processing" and over the past decade it's been one of Nick Saban's greatest strengths.
Of course, it's pretty easy for him, when every 5* wants to come and they all think they're going to beat out the next guy. Normally "the market" would adjust and people would start distrusting the coach of a program that is so heavily reliant on processing/roster management, but these kids all think they're bullet-proof. No amount of warnings from the guys getting processed, to the new recruits that are about to enter the meat grinder, can dissuade them, because they all think it can't possibly happen to them.
But NIL and the more open portal are going to remove some of that advantage from Saban and the other coaches that were so skilled at it. As FF and others are pointing out, now there are more opportunities for ANY coach to do the same thing.
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Would a coach perhaps at some lesser program have benefit in offering four year schollys?
In return, you don't portal.
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Im hoping in the future NIL will help against opting out for bowl games
if a player stands to lose a lot of money to opt out that might change his mind
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Im hoping in the future NIL will help against opting out for bowl games
if a player stands to lose a lot of money to opt out that might change his mind
I'm not sure the NIL sponsors care enough, to write that into the NIL contract. And in some states I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to use that kind of contract language anyway, because in those states it's neither intended as nor permitted to be a pay-for-play opportunity.
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I was under the impression that NIL allows a player to make money advertising various products using his name and likeness
Seems to me to be a two way street in that the company involved gives up their money in return for this player so why shouldnt there be a guarantee from the player to participate in all games to secure the money commitment
but I dont pretend to be a legal expert so maybe it is only a one way street
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I'd write it into the contract
unless it was illegal, but I'd have some verbiage written to allow some encouragement to play in games as opposed to opting out
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Edge defender Jimari Butler becomes the 10th Husker scholarship player to enter the transfer portal.
Jimari Butler says he has decided to stay at Nebraska rather than transfer.
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I was under the impression that NIL allows a player to make money advertising various products using his name and likeness
Seems to me to be a two way street in that the company involved gives up their money in return for this player so why shouldnt there be a guarantee from the player to participate in all games to secure the money commitment
but I dont pretend to be a legal expert so maybe it is only a one way street
Because NIL is not a pay-for-play deal, it's a pay-for-advertising deal. And in some states, the NIL laws explicitly prohibit any clauses that would be considered pay-for-play, which is precisely what you are suggesting.
In its true form, NIL is nothing more than allowing NCAA college athletes to benefit from their name, image, and likeness, in the exact same way that all other college students have been able to do, since the dawn of time. The NCAA forbade it, and I understand their reasoning, but it was never legal, and the states have decided to enact specific mandates that overrule anything the NCAA previously had in place. So NIL's true intent, is simply to grant explicitly to college student athletes, the rights they already had, but that the NCAA illegally prohibited.
Many NIL deals-- in fact the most lucrative NIL deals-- aren't tied to any university whatsoever. They're simply brands, that want a popular athlete to advertise for them. Ewers' big deals are all negotiated separately and would be granted to him no matter what school he chose. The deals he signed when he went to Ohio State, are still in place with him at Texas, because he negotiated those deals directly with the companies that want to use him to help advertise their brands, and those companies don't care where he goes to school, as long as he remains a high profile public character.
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Jimari Butler says he has decided to stay at Nebraska rather than transfer.
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Strangely worded and you could read into it, but it's probably harmless. I doubt he's that tactful, lol.
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Would a coach perhaps at some lesser program have benefit in offering four year schollys?
In return, you don't portal.
I don't think any player would take that deal.
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Because NIL is not a pay-for-play deal, it's a pay-for-advertising deal. And in some states, the NIL laws explicitly prohibit any clauses that would be considered pay-for-play, which is precisely what you are suggesting.
In its true form, NIL is nothing more than allowing NCAA college athletes to benefit from their name, image, and likeness, in the exact same way that all other college students have been able to do, since the dawn of time. The NCAA forbade it, and I understand their reasoning, but it was never legal, and the states have decided to enact specific mandates that overrule anything the NCAA previously had in place. So NIL's true intent, is simply to grant explicitly to college student athletes, the rights they already had, but that the NCAA illegally prohibited.
Many NIL deals-- in fact the most lucrative NIL deals-- aren't tied to any university whatsoever. They're simply brands, that want a popular athlete to advertise for them. Ewers' big deals are all negotiated separately and would be granted to him no matter what school he chose. The deals he signed when he went to Ohio State, are still in place with him at Texas, because he negotiated those deals directly with the companies that want to use him to help advertise their brands, and those companies don't care where he goes to school, as long as he remains a high profile public character.
how can it not be a pay for play situation
folks are paying money to use the players name and likeness
there would be no appeal if the player didnt play
if the player gives up football see how long he gets NIL money
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I don't think any player would take that deal.
perhaps a few smart players looking at Northwestern or Stanford or similar
you know, playing school
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how can it not be a pay for play situation
folks are paying money to use the players name and likeness
there would be no appeal if the player didnt play
if the player gives up football see how long he gets NIL money
I've explained it twice, I don't know how to make it any clearer.
NIL simply compensates a player for using her or his name, image, or likeness to promote a brand. It CAN be linked to a specific university, but that's not its intent and in many cases it is not. Additionally, in some states there is specific language in the statutes that it CAN NOT be linked to pay-for-play.
I understand it's confusing to a lot of people. It's confusing to a lot of players, and it's confusing to a lot of university officials. But once you understand its basic intent, it should help you understand how it's being used "correctly" and how it's being perverted, but still technically within the rules.
To address the concern I highlighted in red-- the deals are typically time-bound because if a player isn't playing then the marketing appeal isn't present. But again, it's not pay-for-play and in some states it would be illegal to put such language into the contract. If an NIL-deal-sponsor doesn't like the terms, he certainly is not obligated to engage in NIL at all.
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you are right its not pay for play instead its pay for having played but the bottom line is the same
I can see future NIL contracts requesting the bowl game be played or maybe an additional bonus if they participate in the bowl game
maybe this would be an additional NIL offered by the Bowl Game sponsors themselves
and yes I know that would be pay for play but I predict thats coming
as far as states prohibiting it laws can change
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The deals he signed when he went to Ohio State, are still in place with him at Texas, because he negotiated those deals directly with the companies that want to use him to help advertise their brands, and those companies don't care where he goes to school, as long as he remains a high profile public character.
This is what I don't get,they are seperate deals right? I mean who ever ponied up for his cup of coffee in Columbus has gotta be thinking WTF did I just do?Never even saw his picture except when the story broke he was coming to tOSU.What was his likeness used for mouthguards,chin straps,Uncle Josh's Bass baits?
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This is what I don't get,they are seperate deals right? I mean who ever ponied up for his cup of coffee in Columbus has gotta be thinking WTF did I just do?Never even saw his picture except when the story broke he was coming to tOSU.What was his likeness used for mouthguards,chin straps,Uncle Josh's Bass baits?
The Kombucha company that Ewers signed with, is a Texas-based company. Like I said, that deal was never contingent on WHERE he went to school, only that he he remains popular and in the public eye. So they have zero interest in whether or not he plays a bowl game. It really doesn't matter whether or not he plays at all, right up until the point that he drops out of the public eye, in which case I'd expect they'd choose to stop extending the deal.
I can't comment on whether or not they feel they're getting a decent ROI. But that's pretty much the point I've been making-- the first couple years of this thing were inevitably going to be wild and weird. Eventually, I do expect the market to settle down.
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the only ROI some bad men are looking for is wins & losses
the $$$ is simply a tax write off
Kombucha might not have ever even taken a picture of the kid
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Any of us could enter an NIL contract. Nobody is interested in me for obvious reasons. College players once could not do this and remain "amateurs" Now, they can, like any of us, and some companies will want to feature them so long as they are "famous".
There is a gaping hole here obviously. At least it makes Bag Men irrelevant.
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plenty are interested in you, Cincy
just not enough to lay down some hard coin
especially when they can get it for free
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The Area 51 fellows claim I'm boring, but they do seem to respond to my posts fairly often. I've been labeled a "whateverist", which has some truth to it.
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Georgia football sees first player enter the transfer portal ahead of College Football Playoff game (dawgnation.com) (https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgia-football-bill-norton-transfer-portal/CQ3L4LXG65AEHAHZJBKKFZMCFQ/?fbclid=IwAR3quss-yNeOTlK0Pk8vmv3FrPg9vUTk8zMImOl6qhyPL99CvTbEaBBJk7k)
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The Area 51 fellows claim I'm boring, but they do seem to respond to my posts fairly often. I've been labeled a "whateverist", which has some truth to it.
I've never been they say there are seances,Ouija Boards,Witch Doctors,deep state operatives,Db Cooper,Jimmy Hoffa,Elvis,Hunter Biden,Poker playing Yeti's,Eggnog drinkers,Egg Board lobbyists and Orange Afro What evers over there.NOPE
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2 more notable ones, each a sad situation, on opposite ends of the spectrum:
Former Florida QB and current ASU player Emory Jones enters portal....wasn't good enough to keep his job in Gainesville, was replaced 7 games into the season in Tempe....going to run off somewhere else now. I just find it sad when these kids bounce around so much. Stick with it someplace. The only way I see this is a plus is if he goes someplace smaller (football-wise) and just plays for the love of the game. If he transfers to some upper-half P5 program just to struggle again....what's the point?
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Coastal Carolina QB and face of the program Grayson McCall enters portal. I hate this. To just about all of us, there IS no Coastal Carolina without McCall, and now he's trying out the Jeffersons theme song (Movin' on Up). Why not just remain a legend at CC?
He'll likely go somewhere 'bigger' and do good/not great, but why? To show off for the NFL? This isn't 1985, exposure isn't a problem, even at CC.
This one just kind of stinks for the program.
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2 more notable ones, each a sad situation, on opposite ends of the spectrum:
Former Florida QB and current ASU player Emory Jones enters portal....wasn't good enough to keep his job in Gainesville, was replaced 7 games into the season in Tempe....going to run off somewhere else now. I just find it sad when these kids bounce around so much. Stick with it someplace. The only way I see this is a plus is if he goes someplace smaller (football-wise) and just plays for the love of the game. If he transfers to some upper-half P5 program just to struggle again....what's the point?
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Coastal Carolina QB and face of the program Grayson McCall enters portal. I hate this. To just about all of us, there IS no Coastal Carolina without McCall, and now he's trying out the Jeffersons theme song (Movin' on Up). Why not just remain a legend at CC?
He'll likely go somewhere 'bigger' and do good/not great, but why? To show off for the NFL? This isn't 1985, exposure isn't a problem, even at CC.
This one just kind of stinks for the program.
Jones I could see as sad, but I also don’t know the backroom politics. His coach very well might not want him. And then, what are you gonna do? (you’re also right, he should’ve gone G5 off the bat and tried to put up numbers instead of insisting he was P5 good)
McCall is a more interesting one to me. I live a little bit closer to that school and have more interest in small school football, so obviously I am aware more of that program’s history and situation. In truth, if he stays, he sets himself up for a far more disappointing fall.
They couldn’t keep his coach, and then Instead of continuity, they made a bit of a croney hire. So his choices were: 1. Stay and try to raise up a Tim Beck offense (which likely won’t be a great fit)). 2. Find out if he is power five good (and, for better or worse, leverage the financial value he currently has before not making the NFL)
This way, he’s at worst still a legend who gave four years to a small program and lifted it up. At best he’s something more. I’ve been told again and again how a team like his is basically playing in a high school league, why wouldn’t a person want more?
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I do wish someone would do more do more nuanced studies about the composition of the population in the portal.
It overall is a catch all for a wide variety of experiences and kinds of players.
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only 32 teams out of 130 have a player in the portal?
shoot, that's not so bad
over half of the Big Ten w/8 teams
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I do wish someone would do more do more nuanced studies about the composition of the population in the portal.
It overall is a catch all for a wide variety of experiences and kinds of players.
Not even sure how you would split that demographic. Walk ons vs. scholarship players? Upperclassmen vs. underclassmen? Starters vs. backups? Guys with NIL offers?
I think the telling thing is once the dust settles, how many land at P5 programs, or even FBS programs. Granted that's a double edged sword too. On one hand having a bunch of guys transferring down means you aren't losing contributors, but on the other hand, if it's the same coaching staff in place, that raises some red flags regarding evaluation
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My SENSE is most of these guys, say 70%, won't be getting PT. They will "trade down" in hopes of playing. Another 20% doesn't like the situation, but could catch on at another P5 program and half of those might start. Maybe a tenth are good players who would start most places.
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Not even sure how you would split that demographic. Walk ons vs. scholarship players? Upperclassmen vs. underclassmen? Starters vs. backups? Guys with NIL offers?
I think the telling thing is once the dust settles, how many land at P5 programs, or even FBS programs. Granted that's a double edged sword too. On one hand having a bunch of guys transferring down means you aren't losing contributors, but on the other hand, if it's the same coaching staff in place, that raises some red flags regarding evaluation
First I want to filter out walk-ons. Then kids who went JUCO/NAIA. I think they don’t take you out if you go pro, but that’s not so clear.
Then I want to start breaking down by conference, class, position, usage, recruiting rating. Maybe reported criminal history if we have it. I want to know, who we’re taking about. (I care less about NIL here. I’m interested in people actually stuck in there vs not)
And if some enterprising journalists want to start asking kids what happened, I’m sure the picture will be interesting and complex. Kids fell of rosters all the time in 2012. Almost every one of them would have a name in the portal. I lived near a college where a four-star left the team and said he’d transfer (pre-portal). He stayed at school and got his degree. I don’t assume he’d take his name out, as there’s no reason to do so. Shoot, you can punch your GF, get thrown off the team and put your name in there. It’s just a very large group.
I think of it like pro day. For some, it’s a high-leverage moment. For a lot, it’s a thing to do because it costs nothing and why not see if there’s a chance.
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it would be nice to know how many kids dropped off D-1 or P5 rosters in 2012
Saban may have buried the numbers
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A&M has a ton in the portal, but the vast majority are non-contributors. Backup WR with 2-5 catches in 1-3 years. A few are trouble makers getting kicked off the team. 1-2 are major contributors.
The other portal, the NFL draft, will hurt us the most.
Always remember that a lot of these coaches will remember some of these players from recruiting days and there will be some familiarity with them.
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I see the occasional post about a couple players the Dawgs should try and sign, which is talk by posters of course, but nobody seems all that anxious to sign more than 2-3 ...
A few portals are really good, or could be really good in a different setting, but most are ... not so good.
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very similar to JuCos
if your team has a glaring need for a player or some depth at a certain position group, grab a mature player from another team.
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former Michigan TE Erick All to Iowa. Sucks he's leaving- really think All + Colston Loveland could've been the best TE duo that Michigan has had maybe ever in '23. I can totally see why a TE would go to Iowa as well- he's bound to get lot of targets and be the #1 weapon on that offense plus he's got lot of familiarity with Cade McNamara.
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former starting Alabama OL Javion Cohen trending to Miami. Giving up a starting job at Alabama to go play for Miami’s abortion trainwreck of an offense is certainly a questionable decision. A very, very bad decision. DOLLA DOLLA bills y'all. Miami throwing out NIL bags like they are A&M....and they still gonna suck in '23 lol.
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only 32 teams out of 130 have a player in the portal?
shoot, that's not so bad
over half of the Big Ten w/8 teams
No, it says "notable teams."
There's FAR FAR more.
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Florida's departures and info on each:
NFL Draft:
QB Richardson - sucks for us, idiotic to leave, imo
OG Torrence - sucks for us, he is a badass, will be the first guard drafed
DT Dexter - sucks for us, huge AND active, should go in 1st or 2nd round
WR Shorter - sucks for us...not actually GOOD, but tall and goes deep
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Portal guys/dismissed
OL Braun - played some early in career, not this year, grad transfer
WR Whittemore - went to my HS, tall-ish, possession receiver - good player
TE Elksnis - never heard of him, buried on depth chart
WR Reynolds - played a little, had a breakout game vs Vandy (LOL), now leaving. Bye.
RB Lingard - 5* transfer from the Canes, couldn't get on the field.
QB Kitna - perv
RB Wright - played a lot in '20 and '21, but down to 3d-string now
OL Mugharbil - never heard of him, never played in 2 years
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S McMillon - didn't play much until 2nd half of this year, backup, ho-hum
DT Lee - played some, but just when we had no depth on DL mid-season, unremarkable SOPH
DL Thomas - dismissed then returned, never really played
DE Summerall - played more and more this year, lanky edge guy who might actually be good some day....I'd rather he didn't leave
LB Borders - fans were excited about him, but he's just been a special-teams guy
LB Black - another guy fans were optimistic about, but just couldn't get playing time
S Collier - don't know who he is. Bye.
LB Reese - he's been a backup for like 3 years it feels like....can't get playing time
CB Helm - got some playing time as a FR, but lost his starting job this year....wish he could develop at UF, but he's gone
DB Wilcoxson - last name looks made up, lol...left program, but didn't really play, so......bye.
DE Cox - dismissed from team, going into draft, lots of potential but didn't actually DO a lot
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plus a long-snapper who lost his job and a guy who played 3 diff positions, yielding no playing time
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So out of all those guys, sure, I'd like to have the early draft guys back, but that's different than losing guys to the portal.
If I had my way, out of all those guys, I'd want Summerall and Helm back, then one of Borders or Black. 3 out of this whole big list.
Meh.
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WR Germie Bernard is the only big blow out the transfer portal. A couple of DTs, who weren't starters, but were in the rotation at a position where you can never have enough contributing bodies, I'd have preferred to keep, but I wouldn't consider to be devastating losses
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Florida's departures and info on each:
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Portal guys/dismissed
a long-snapper who lost his job
welcome to Lincoln
Geez
long snapper for punting was a senior last season
but, I'd guess the long snapper for FG could Git'r done. He's JR from Lincoln
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Michigan lands Nebraska transfer LB Ernest Hausmann. Iowa and Ohio St were trying to get him, he had an impressive true frosh season for Nebraska with 54 tackles, 2 TFL's, 1 sack and a fumble recovery. Seems like a really nice pick up for Michigan that adds depth and talent to their ILB corps. Starting ILB Nikhai Hill-Green missed all of 2022 with a hamstring issue, literally just returned to practices for the playoffs like a week ago. Hill-Green is a RS Soph that will be back next year. The other starting ILB Junior Colson will be back in '23 as he's only a true soph. Michael Barrett filled in and played at a really good level for Hill-Green, he's a 5th year SR but he can get a 6th COVID year if he wants it. Jimmy Rolder saw lot of time in the rotation as a true frosh- these bowl practices and spring practices are big for his future in '23 and beyond.
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UW looks to be in really good shape to land QB Nick Evers from Oklahoma. Fits what the new OC wants to run, but he's only a true freshman.
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UW looks to be in really good shape to land QB Nick Evers from Oklahoma. Fits what the new OC wants to run, but he's only a true freshman.
Wisconsin not going all in on the Devin Leary sweepstakes?
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Fick says he likes QB's who can move, so I'm thinking no.
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Fick says he likes QB's who can move, so I'm thinking no.
last time Wisconsin took a NC State transfer QB it worked out amazingly for them...just sayin'
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Michigan lands Nebraska transfer LB Ernest Hausmann. Iowa and Ohio St were trying to get him, he had an impressive true frosh season for Nebraska with 54 tackles, 2 TFL's, 1 sack and a fumble recovery. Seems like a really nice pick up for Michigan that adds depth and talent to their ILB corps. Starting ILB Nikhai Hill-Green missed all of 2022 with a hamstring issue, literally just returned to practices for the playoffs like a week ago. Hill-Green is a RS Soph that will be back next year. The other starting ILB Junior Colson will be back in '23 as he's only a true soph. Michael Barrett filled in and played at a really good level for Hill-Green, he's a 5th year SR but he can get a 6th COVID year if he wants it. Jimmy Rolder saw lot of time in the rotation as a true frosh- these bowl practices and spring practices are big for his future in '23 and beyond.
physically talented kid
needs to be coached up a mature a little
wish he would have stayed
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last time Wisconsin took a NC State transfer QB it worked out amazingly for them...just sayin'
Only because he transferred due to his own coach being an idiot, and had an NFL QB at #2.
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Only because he transferred due to his own coach being an idiot, and had an NFL QB at #2.
Who was that?
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Who was that?
think it was Mike Glennon.
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Only because he transferred due to his own coach being an idiot, and had an NFL QB at #2.
Russ could also move.
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so far by my count Michigan has lost 4 to the portal and gained 2.
Lost:
QB Cade McNamara - Iowa
TE Erik All - Iowa
TE Louis Hansen - leaning UMass apparently
DL George Rooks - undecided
Gained:
LB Ernest Hausmann, Nebraska
OL LaDarius Henderson, Arizona State
Cade lost his job to a better player and wasn't going to stick around to be a back-up. Would've loved to keep him for depth, but it is what it is. Rooks was buried on the depth chart but only a RS Frosh so jumping ship this early doesn't make a lot of sense- ditto Hansen. All was the only real hit/loss imo. Kid is a stud TE.
Really like both the portal additions. Both could wind up starting and will provide great depth at the very least. I wouldn't be shocked if WR/PR/KR AJ Henning winds up hitting the portal. He's got a ton of talent but for whatever reason it's never really clicked for him at Michigan.
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Who was that?
Mike Glennon
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MSU adds UNCs kickoff specialist. Apparently he was boxed out of being the PK there, but clearly MSU's slot is WIDE open, and he wants to do both
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https://youtu.be/eYTVBXOIBic
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not clickin on that
the dude has a Tigers cap on
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They are like when Fox News used to throw Alan Colmes on, before the channels just leaned into their brands. He was the token worst Democrat they could find. Detroit media found the two worst MSU slappies they could find, so nobody could accuse them of being biased, but they actually do more to embarass MSU fans, like Colmes did every time he debated Sean Hannity. MSU would rather have zero representation in Detroit media, than these two jokers be the voice of it
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They are like when Fox News used to throw Alan Colmes on, before the channels just leaned into their brands. He was the token worst Democrat they could find. Detroit media found the two worst MSU slappies they could find, so nobody could accuse them of being biased, but they actually do more to embarass MSU fans, like Colmes did every time he debated Sean Hannity. MSU would rather have zero representation in Detroit media, than these two jokers be the voice of it
yeah they are both terrible and just talk out of their ass. Valenti gonna Valenti, but sometimes his takes make me laugh. Rico is especially stupid however. They are basically like Skip Baylesses of Detroit local sports radio. They just throw outlandish sh*t at the wall to try and drum up calls/listens/views. Click-bait.
That little NIL rant they went on about is without a doubt probably false. I don't believe for a second that Georgia collectives offered an edge rushing 2023 HS football prospect from Florida $1.8 million up front and $800,000 a season and that's why he didn't pick Ohio State and whatever else those two nincompoops were blabbing on about.
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Valenti has his schtick. So whatever, local sports talk guys have a schtick. If you love him or hate him, you tune in, and that's what they want. Rico brings nothing other than having a lot of connections inside the MSU program 20 years ago.
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MSU had added two non contributing UW transfers, who they didn't offer out of HS, as PWOs. I guess bodies are bodies, and it's cheaper for them to pay in state, since they weren't going to get a 5th scholarship year at UW.
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MSU would rather have zero representation in Detroit media, than these two jokers be the voice of it
yeah they are both terrible and just talk out of their ass. Valenti gonna Valenti
Bullcrap they bring a lot of valid points up.Like UM and UZI Smith and why they sat on it for 2 months while ripping into the Spartans as thugs in the same time frame.They're like Jose Canseco - everyone called him every name in the book when he came clean until the truth was found to be much larger than anybody suspected.McGwire,Sosa,Bonds and the rest of them were juicing. As Patton once said if everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking
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Bullcrap they bring a lot of valid points up.Like UM and UZI Smith and why they sat on it for 2 months while ripping into the Spartans as thugs in the same time frame.They're like Jose Canseco - everyone called him every name in the book when he came clean until the truth was found to be much larger than anybody suspected.McGwire,Sosa,Bonds and the rest of them were juicing. As Patton once said if everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking
They are the only two people in the Detroit media that calls Michigan out on their BS. But that's why I compared them to the token D that Fox News forced to debate Sean Hannity. It allows them to claim neutrality, but the people who are arguing the other side are a total clown show, which actually makes the side they are arguing against look better
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MSU adds a grad transfer TE from Boise State. He's the 4th TE we've added via transfer portal, granted two are PWOs
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MSU had added two non contributing UW transfers, who they didn't offer out of HS, as PWOs. I guess bodies are bodies, and it's cheaper for them to pay in state, since they weren't going to get a 5th scholarship year at UW.
Bracey and?
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https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/120/Contents/article-on-dasan-mccullough-200630517/?page=1
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Interwebs were saying Mertz was going to transfer to Kentucky, but he in in Gainesville today. Interesting development.
Florida 247 board is NOT happy with the 247 Wisconsin writer's crystal ball to Florida.
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Interwebs were saying Mertz was going to transfer to Kentucky, but he in in Gainesville today. Interesting development.
Florida 247 board is NOT happy with the 247 Wisconsin writer's crystal ball to Florida.
Most Gators would probably try out a 4* or 5* FR over a mediocre trans kid from Wisconsin as a stop-gap.
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SEC rep'in
"managing" rosters
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Former Florida defensive back Corey Collier Jr will transfer to Nebraska, he announced Saturday via Twitter. Collier just finished his redshirt freshman season with the Gators and will have three years of eligibility remaining.
Corey Collier ranks as the No. 22 safety according to On3’s Transfer Portal Rankings. The young defensive back played in four games this season for Billy Napier’s squad, primarily on special teams. He recorded his first career tackle in the Oct. 2 win over Eastern Washington.
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Michigan adds Stanford OL transfer Myles Hinton. Hinton was a 5* recruit from the state of Georgia in the 2020 HS class and is the younger brother of former Michigan DL Chris Hinton.
Myles Hinton is listed by Stanford at 6’7, 320 and has started 20 games at RT for Stanford over the last two seasons.
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this kid looks like a monster. so does that Henderson kid they got in the portal from Arizona State. that'll work on the LOS.
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Interwebs were saying Mertz was going to transfer to Kentucky, but he in in Gainesville today. Interesting development.
Florida 247 board is NOT happy with the 247 Wisconsin writer's crystal ball to Florida.
This report is bogus. If Mertz was visiting Florida yesterday it would have had to been in Vegas.
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Michigan gets former Coastal Carolina OLB/DE Josiah Stewart (6'2, 235) from the portal. Stewart had 15.5 TFL's and 12.5 sacks as a true freshman in '21 and this past year while his production dipped to 10 TFL's and 4 sacks he did have 43 QB pressures. 247Sports ranks him as the #2 EDGE defender and #24 player overall in the portal. Not sure how they come up with those rankings. But man this adds really nice piece to the pass rush rotation/depth. Jeem stacking talent for a B1G three-peat run.
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Georgia Tech dual-threat quarterback Jeff Sims announces he’s transferring to Nebraska
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Georgia Tech dual-threat quarterback Jeff Sims announces he’s transferring to Nebraska
That's a big get. I believe he was a top 3 QB when he signed.
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appears to have been a 4-star coming out of HS
hopefully Rhule has a QB coach that can maximize talent
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Michigan gets former Coastal Carolina OLB/DE Josiah Stewart (6'2, 235) from the portal. Stewart had 15.5 TFL's and 12.5 sacks as a true freshman in '21 and this past year while his production dipped to 10 TFL's and 4 sacks he did have 43 QB pressures. 247Sports ranks him as the #2 EDGE defender and #24 player overall in the portal. Not sure how they come up with those rankings. But man this adds really nice piece to the pass rush rotation/depth. Jeem stacking talent for a B1G three-peat run.
Damn Jeem getting guys - Hinton,Henderson,Hausmann - now this guy ready to stop for a cup of coffee,step in win Conference and maybe a playoff. With out missing a beat.Hinton for sure should help and i don't know about the other guys but they can't hurt.Unless bringing baggage
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Damn Jeem getting guys - Hinton,Henderson,Hausmann - now this guy ready to stop for a cup of coffee,step in win Conference and maybe a playoff. With out missing a beat.Hinton for sure should help and i don't know about the other guys but they can't hurt.Unless bringing baggage
Hausmann was arguably Nebraska's best LB as a true frosh in '22, and 247Sports had him pegged as the #1 player in the portal. Henderson and Hinton are both in the two deep at a minimum on the OL and both have 2 years left to play I believe. OLB/DE Josiah Stewart was a guy that Michigan actually offered out of HS and was former HS teammates with Mike Sainistril. Stewart has two years left to play, and LSU and USC were both trying to get him. He was a highly productive pass rusher in the Sun Belt, how it translates to the next level in the P5 remains to be seen, and he's going to have some dudes ahead of him in that pass rush rotation.
Jeem hasn't stopped there, he just got a commit in the portal from another former Stanford OL, center Drake Nugent. Kind of makes sense that he'd go after a center with them losing Olu Oluwatimi to NFL after this year. PFF seems to really like him.
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1604840726382010368?s=20&t=Fefsyhtnd9SWGtCfvynsCQ
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Michigan boards doing sleuthing...looks like former 5* ATH and #1 overall player in '22, Travis Hunter from Jackson State who is expected to hit the portal since Deion left for Colorado- just went on a Twitter following spree of Michigan related peoples and followed-Harbaugh, Clinkscale (DB coach), Will Johnson & Keon Sabb (M players), Fred Moore (M commit), and Nyckoles Harbor (assumed M lean in '23 class). Probably nothing.
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I guess God decided Jackson State has had enough blessings.
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appears to have been a 4-star coming out of HS
hopefully Rhule has a QB coach that can maximize talent
That kid can play.
it’s remarkable what a stupid mess Georgia Tech turned into.
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his numbers at Georgia Tech aren't great
could be the offensive system or lack of talent around him or whatever
he's maybe happy for a fresh start & a season to sit behind Casey Thompson and learn the system and mature
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his numbers at Georgia Tech aren't great
could be the offensive system or lack of talent around him or whatever
he's maybe happy for a fresh start & a season to sit behind Casey Thompson and learn the system and mature
definitely a factor. also doesn't help when your best player portals to bama...
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Why would Michigan take Jack Tuttle? He's got no chance to do anything there.
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just to be pricks?
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Why would Michigan take Jack Tuttle? He's got no chance to do anything there.
Didn't they take some kid from Texas Tech last year, who was in the starting mix, and went to UM to be their #3?
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Didn't they take some kid from Texas Tech last year, who was in the starting mix, and went to UM to be their #3?
yes, Alan Bowman. Last year he wound up getting passed over for the 2nd string job by a true frosh JJ and this year he wound up getting passed over for 3rd on the depth chart by a walk-on Davis Warren and Bowman actually just hit the portal.
Michigan is taking Tuttle for obvious reasons. They need the QB depth. They just lost their 2nd string QB to the portal to Iowa in Cade and they just lost Bowman to the portal as well. They took two QB's in 2022, but one is a development guy that needs time in Jayden Denegal and the other is a guy that was a project who is probably going to wind up playing either RB or LB next year in Alex Orji. Kid is really athletic but....he's not a legit QB.
They don't have a QB in 2023 as they literally went all in and put all their chips in the 5* Dante Moore basket and despite being from Detroit and having a diehard Michigan fan father- he never really cared for them. He was all Notre Dame until they took 5* '24 QB CJ Carr. Moore was looking for NIL + a starting job. Michigan collectives don't really offer recruits NIL money and JJ is here for at least another year.
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Michigan adds former Indiana TE AJ Barner in the portal. Barner fills a huge need there with Michigan TE Erick All hitting the portal and going to Iowa and with TE Luke Schoonmaker accepting an invite to play in that NFL Senior Bowl so yeah...he gone.
Looks pretty good. Hopefully see more of this :)
https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1591487804520873984?s=20&t=9V37JcymXsQ4M5_0XM-vhA
https://twitter.com/_ajbarner_/status/1600930551988629504?s=20&t=GFyh0ljqnEIql_3I7ELlxA
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sounds like former Clemson QB DJ U-Alphabet is going to Hawaii.
Screaming hot take: kid should go to USC with his little brother who is a 5* DE (who is said very likely be signing there) and quit playing QB- he just don't got it there- and move to either TE or DE. He's big enough and athletic enough to play either spot. How this kid was a 5* top 10 player is crazy to me. Just shows the sites ain't always right- they whiff a lot more than we'd all care to admit.
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Nebraska football continued its run of landing transfer portal targets on Tuesday evening, picking up a commitment from Florida linebacker transfer Chief Borders.
Borders, who officially visited Nebraska this past weekend, announced his decision on social media, becoming the third transfer from Florida to announce his intention to join the Huskers in 2023.
Borders participated in four games as a true freshman in 2021 before redshirting. He appeared in all 12 of the Gators’ regular season games in 2022, though the vast majority of his reps came on special teams. He recorded two total tackles in his second season with the team and was recognized as one of four special teams players of the year by teammates and coaches.
While Borders did not see much field time in two seasons in Gainesville, he quickly became a fan favorite due to an exuberant personality. Borders was recognized as the inaugural Danny Wuerffel Man of the Month, an award presented to the Florida football scholar-athlete who exemplifies the Gator standard, demonstrating holistic excellence in leadership, character, service and academics.
Borders, who played his high school football in Georgia, was a four-star prospect in the 2021 recruiting class, holding a 0.8989 rating according to the industry-generated 247Sports Composite.
Borders will have three seasons of eligibility remaining in Lincoln.
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MSU adds a PWO LB from UMass, who was originally committed to Michigan, but processed out; and a scholarship DT from Florida State.
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by my count Michigan now has 7 guys from the portal....
Indiana QB Jack Tuttle - will be in contention for back-up QB.
Indiana TE AJ Barner - Michigan plays tons of 2 TE sets. He's probably going to be the other TE to Colston Loveland. That should be a nice duo.
Stanford C Drake Nugent - should be in the two deep at worst at center. Very likely the starting C. This was a need with Olu Oluwatimi off to the NFL. PFF is super high on him.
Stanford RT Myles Hinton - former 5*. Looked like an NFL player in high school. He's freakishly big. Wonder if they try him at LT with Ryan Hayes leaving for the NFL.
Arizona State LG LaDarius Henderson - this one makes me think one of if not both starting guards Trevor Keegan and Zak Zinter are off to the NFL. He's a plug and play high level starter.
OLB/DE Josiah Stewart - he's a highly productive pass rusher from the Sun Belt. He's got lot of talented and experienced guys ahead of him- doubt he starts but that's a great depth piece. By adding Stewart, Michigan can rotate like 6-7 really good players at EDGE next year that could start on a lot of other B1G teams and wear offensive lines down.
LB Ernest Hausmann - he was probably Nebraska's best linebacker as a true frosh this year. Very talented player, pops athletically when you watch him on tape. Junior Colson was Michigan's best LB as a true soph this year and he's locked in as a starter in '23. Nikahi Hill-Green was one of the starters at ILB in '21 but missed all of '22 with a hamstring injury. That's going to be the position battle to watch- Hausmann vs. NHG. If Michael Barrett comes back they'll have awesome depth at ILB.
These move add a lot of depth to their 2023 team. Corum might actually come back in '23. Michigan will have serious shot at 3-peating in the B1G next year without Corum. If he comes back and teams up with Donovan Edwards, wow.
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Idk if Corum should stay because he'll never run better than a 4.7 or he should leave because of that.
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If you are a draftable RB you should leave 100% of the time, if you want a prayer of signing a second contract
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Idk if Corum should stay because he'll never run better than a 4.7 or he should leave because of that.
Tell me you haven't watched Blake Corum play football without telling me you haven't watched Blake Corum play football.
Lmfao where on earth do people get this crap? Blake Corum is FAST. He's a legit 4.4 kid with a track background. He was running laser timed 4.4's in HS. Corum busts long runs consistently. Has been doing so since 2021.
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he don't look that fast
but, you would know better than I
I've only just watched him on the field
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Blake ran 4.44 laser timed at Nike Opening when he was a junior high school. Typically high school skill athletes get faster in a college strength & training program. Not slower.
https://247sports.com/Player/Blake-Corum-92992/high-school-178202/
also...Corum was tracked at 22.1 MPH on GPS last year on his 67 yard TD run vs Washington. That's absolutely flying.
Mike Hart ran 4.7. Blake Corum leaves Mike Hart in the dust. Corum is actually a very similar player to Hart. He's basically Mike Hart + 15 LBS that can run 4.4.
https://twitter.com/RAanalytics/status/1439294231734931456?s=20&t=s5hZnYY_orCpYMZ4PHF12Q
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he don't look that fast
but, you would know better than I
I've only just watched him on the field
Lmao...what? Do you even watch him play? Corum can run.
How does that not look fast?
https://twitter.com/BigTenNetwork/status/1436861941436190722?s=20&t=s5hZnYY_orCpYMZ4PHF12Q
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Transfer portal background information
The NCAA Transfer Portal, which covers every NCAA sport at the Division I, II and III levels, is a private database with names of student-athletes who wish to transfer. It is not accessible to the public.
The process of entering the portal is done through a school’s compliance office. Once a player provides written notification of an intent to transfer, the office enters the player’s name in the database and everything is off and running. The compliance office has 48 hours to comply with the player’s request and that request cannot be refused.
Once a player’s name shows up in the portal, other schools can contact the player. Players can change their minds at any point and withdraw from the portal. However, once a player enters the portal, the current scholarship no longer has to be honored. In other words, if a player enters the portal but decides to stay, the school is not obligated to provide a scholarship anymore.
The database is a normal database, sortable by a variety of topics, including (of course) sport and name. A player’s individual entry includes basic details such as contact info, whether the player was on scholarship and whether the player is transferring as a graduate student.
A player can ask that a “do not contact” tag be placed on the report. In those instances, the players don’t want to be contacted by schools unless they’ve initiated the communication.
The portal has been around since Oct. 15, 2018 and the new calendar cycle within the portal begins each August. For example, the 2021-22 cycle started Aug. 1. During the 2020-21 cycle, 2,626 FBS football players entered the transfer portal (including walk-ons). That comes after 1,681 entered during the 2019-20 cycle and 1,709 during the abbreviated 2018-19 cycle. In comparison, 1,833 Division I basketball players entered the portal during the 2020-21 cycle after totals of 1,020 in 2019-20 and 1,063 in 2018-19.
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I don't think there is anything the NCAA could have done about NIL. They maybe could have done something to postpone it, or make it slightly better structured. But I honestly don't think they thought the investment levels would be like this.
But they absolutely can get ird of the portal. They have plenty of rules regarding playing eligibility, and there is no legal challenge to those. They are not artificially restraining players' earning capacity. They are not restricting movement. You can transfer whenever you want. You just have to sit out a year. I think if you keep unregulated NIL (hell, I'd even be fine with getting rid of the pay to play restrictions), but get rid of the transfer portal, and do away with waivers, I think you can by and large save the sport.
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agreed
sign a letter of intent and take a scholarship
there are rules
make as much money as you're worth, but accept the transfer rules
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agreed
sign a letter of intent and take a scholarship
there are rules
make as much money as you're worth, but accept the transfer rules
Yup. It's not like guys who are great college players, but aren't NFL/NBA players can just play college forever. Once you sign a letter, you are still free to leave whenever you want, but if you want to move within the NCAA, you have to abide by a transfer rule. I'd even be fine with getting rid of the one time transfer issue there used to be. If you want to play for 4 schools over 8 years, knock yourself out
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Those Corum numbers are JT23 worthy. Plenty fast for the NFL.
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I find this outcome absolutely wild
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I find this outcome absolutely wild
Yes, me too.
I wish #5 all the best. I do think, in hindsight, he was dealt a bad hand in Madison. A new start might be good for him.
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Ouch. First few posts on the Gator board about #5 coming in... Not gonna bother to look at the rest of the 25 pages.
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Report: Wisconsin transfer QB Graham Mertz commits to Florida (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/florida/board/14/Contents/report-wisconsin-transfer-qb-graham-mertz-commits-to-florida-201020835/?page=1)
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settle down gator fans, it's only one ship for one season
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seems like a weird fit. Mertz needed to go down to G5 or FCS imo. He's going to stink in the SEC. That's if he even plays.
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He could play two, actually, with the Covid year exception.
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seems like a weird fit. Mertz needed to go down to G5 or FCS imo. He's going to stink in the SEC. That's if he even plays.
I'd guess he doesn't play much, but ya never know
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"This must be what a fatal diagnosis feels like" from the Gator Board :D .Seeing how things unfolded i can see why they think like that but they might be pleasantly surprised if surrounded by the right people/decent talent
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well, decent chance there's an upgrade at WR
but O-line, running game, and TE are pretty solid in Madison
coaching perhaps
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Ryan on Twitter: "Some of y’all are hating on the Mertz pickup without actually seeing him play. Watch the tape and you’ll be excited like me https://t.co/pP9T8Wbf8v" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/Ryanmcc_9/status/1605572017217867776?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1605572017217867776|twgr^96d0417a76726948751767a205f20e817f28c765|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fwisconsin%2Fboard%2Fbadgers-message-board-23%2F)
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Stole that tweet from the Badgers 247 board, along with this:
"Paul Chryst's last 3 starting QB's have transferred to Florida State, Notre Dame and Florida."
Let that sink in a little.
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That twitter video was a bunch of hand offs :017:
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That twitter video was a bunch of hand offs :017:
That was the point...
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in a surprise to no one, Jackson State star athlete Travis Hunter has transferred to Colorado to rejoin Deion Sanders.
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That was the point...
What that fans in Gainesville should be happy that he can hand off? Either this Ryan is a bad comedian or a UW Fan happy to be done with Mertz(who I like BTW)
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It was tongue in cheek. Ryan is a Gator fan - not UW.
I also liked Mertz. Needed a new start. I'm cheering for him. Great kid.
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HA! This on a Buckeye Board:
JT Daniels is on his fourth team in five years and hasn’t had to sit a year yet. Not sure exactly how it happened…but it did.
USC,Georgia,W.Virg. and now Rice
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jt-daniels-once-highly-sought-qb-recruit-transfers-fourth-school-report
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Like the prom queen on her 4th husband.
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What that fans in Gainesville should be happy that he can hand off? Either this Ryan is a bad comedian or a UW Fan happy to be done with Mertz(who I like BTW)
IT'S A JOKE
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Even if Mertz was decent/good, the Gator Nation just had a QB that could throw the ball 80 yards and runs a 4.4 @ 230 lbs.
No, he wasn't even good, but we could dream on him a bit, and he'd show flashes.
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Even if Mertz was decent/good, the Gator Nation just had a QB that could throw the ball 80 yards and runs a 4.4 @ 230 lbs.
No, he wasn't even good, but we could dream on him a bit, and he'd show flashes.
My first thought when I saw the move was, I honestly thought Florida could do better. Not doing better felt worrisome.
(he might turn out fine, or even good, if they make things simpler for him)
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Huge get, NU grabs a multi year OL starter from Arizona State in Ben Scott. GBR!
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Purdue lands former Texas back-up QB Hudson Card. 247Sports had him rated as the #3 QB and the #10 player overall in their transfer portal player rankings. Seems like a big-time pick up for them.
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My question- where will Grayson McCall go?
Kid can play.
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My question- where will Grayson McCall go?
Kid can play.
would Georgia take him? Stetson is finally out of eligibility...he's only been in college for like 12 years already.
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If UGA gets McCall, I quit.
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If UGA gets McCall, I quit.
You got your QB. Quit bitching.
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Looked like he was headed to Auburn but he cancelled his trip there, suddenly.
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If UGA gets McCall, I quit.
he aight. he's certainly no Graham Mertz.
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Deshaun Mallory was just a rotational DT, but I thought he had a role and was bummed to lose him. Just announced his transfer options as Temple and 3 MAC schools, so apparently what do I know?
Or maybe those junior/senior rotation guys are just never sticking around anymore. Theyd rather go start at a MAC school
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MADISON, Wis. — When it comes to quarterbacks, new Wisconsin offensive coordinator Phil Longo (https://247sports.com/Coach/Phil-Longo-3865) has the kind of resume the Badgers need to attract high-end talent.
That has already been evident over his first three weeks with the program.
The Badgers on Thursday emerged as the favorites to land SMU transfer Tanner Mordecai (https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Mordecai-91436), a two-time semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award, given annually to the nation's top quarterback. He is expected to commit to the Badgers, 247Sports' Chris Hummer has learned (https://twitter.com/chris_hummer/status/1608636404418117633), confirming On3's initial report.
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Purdue lands former Texas back-up QB Hudson Card. 247Sports had him rated as the #3 QB and the #10 player overall in their transfer portal player rankings. Seems like a big-time pick up for them.
Big time pick up here. I think Card will kill it in Graham Harrells system.
It cost Purdue 4* QB Brady Allen, who in return entered the portal. He was supposedly the next in line in the Cradle of QBs.
I'm not sold on Indiana QBs though. Too many busts.
Card is from an Austin, TX HS that is well known for producing QB talent. No doubt Brees and Harrell played a big role in getting him to Purdue.
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Wisconsin has quickly become a hot destination for quarterbacks.
After receiving commitments from Oklahoma transfer Nick Evers (https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Evers-46097634) and four-star 2024 signal caller Mabrey Mettauer (https://247sports.com/Player/Mabrey-Mettauer-46110460), the Badgers have landed SMU transfer quarterback Tanner Mordecai (https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Mordecai-91436).
“After conversations with coach (Luke) Fickell and coach (Phil) Longo, I am excited to announce I will utilize my last year of eligibility at the University of Wisconsin. I could not be more fired up to play at a school with a rich history and a winning culture. Let’s ride!”
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With three, potentially four defensive backs departing after the 2022 season, Wisconsin has picked up an experienced transfer on the back end of its defense.
Former Boston College defensive back Jason Maitre (https://247sports.com/Player/Jason-Maitre-46043250) has committed to the Badgers for the 2023 season, he announced Friday.
Maitre had committed to Liberty, but re-opened his recruitment earlier this week.
A graduate transfer, Maitre will have one year of eligibility remaining. UW likes the 5-foot-10, 190-pounder at nickel cornerback.
Last season with the Eagles, Maitre posted 42.0 tackles, six pass breakups, and an interception. Maitre has appeared in 44 games with BC, including 133.0 tackles, 9.0 for loss, three interceptions, and 22 pass breakups. Over his five-year career, Maitre owns 30 starts at the power-five level.
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Kentucky DL Justin Rogers (6'3, 332 lbs) in the portal. Rogers is from the Detroit area and was the #1 player in the state of Michigan and a 5* 'croot in the 2020 class. Kentucky already lost one former 5* LoS recruit when class of 2022 5* OT Kiyaunta Goodwin (6'8, 340 lbs) hit the portal.
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Apparently Goodwin is back to having the weight and fitness issues he had earlier in HS
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probably could use a fresh start and some motivation with Coach Rhule
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Apparently Goodwin is back to having the weight and fitness issues he had earlier in HS
Kentucky "insiders" were saying kid was trending towards bust status and couldn't get on the field on a bad OL because he was overweight and stunk in practice.
Goodwin and Rogers both might just be a case of dudes getting ranked 5*'s in HS because they are genetic freaks who maxed out early and just are bigger, stronger, and faster than everyone they play in HS.
OL/DL 'croot rankings should always be taken with a grain of salt imo.
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Sounds like the Kentucky coaches actually still like Rogers, and it's a pure NIL move
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Florida gonna suck for awhile. Napier about to get fired in the next 3 years.
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Bobby Petrino will convince guys to stay
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MSU RB Eli Collins, entering his 6th year, is going into the portal. Don't blame him. This staff wasn't smart enough to recognize that he was their best back this year
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Florida gonna suck for awhile. Napier about to get fired in the next 3 years.
Just getting rid of the guys who aren't buying in.
I did a player-by-player review, and I only wish 2 or 3 of those guys would have stayed, and that's just based on potential. The rest weren't seeing the field anyway.
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All 4 of the guys suspended for allegedly smoking dope in the locker room have entered the portal.
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yup, a WR from Omaha that wasn't on the Husker team this season just entered the portal
but might be credited to Nebraska - the last team he was a part of
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Michigan sophomore WR Andrel Anthony in the portal. Been rumors about him for months. Kid played the game of his life vs Sparty and had a td in garbage time vs UGA in the semis last year as a true frosh, really thought he was going to make a jump as a sophomore this year. Never happened.
Can't say I blame him. If I was a QB or WR I would NOT play for Jim Harbaugh. You just won't be developed like you should playing for him in that 1983 crapfest of a passing offense.
Now if I'm a RB, OL, or TE, I'm playing for Jeem all day long bc I'm gonna get developed and used a lot.
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All 4 of the guys suspended for allegedly smoking dope in the locker room have entered the portal.
Of course it's were all the stoners hang out
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Michigan sophomore WR Andrel Anthony in the portal. Been rumors about him for months. Kid played the game of his life vs Sparty and had a td in garbage time vs UGA in the semis last year as a true frosh, really thought he was going to make a jump as a sophomore this year. Never happened.
Can't say I blame him. If I was a QB or WR I would NOT play for Jim Harbaugh. You just won't be developed like you should playing for him in that 1983 crapfest of a passing offense.
Now if I'm a RB, OL, or TE, I'm playing for Jeem all day long bc I'm gonna get developed and used a lot.
Yes- that kid looked really good when he had opportunity.
Of course we as fans never know what a player’s practice habits are. I trust the UM coaching staff to play the ones who earn it.
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you're talkin bout practice?
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you're talkin bout practice?
😂😂. That never gets old. That and:
”playoffs…. Did you say playoffs”
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https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/04/what-to-expect-from-ohio-states-newe
The Ohio State football programed gained its first big win of the 2022-23 transfer cycle when it received a commitment (https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/03/ohio-state-football-lands-jahad-carter-former-syracuse-safety-from-transfer-portal/) from former Syracuse (https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/tag/syracuse/) safety, Ja’Had Carter (https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/tag/jahad-carter-2/). The rising fourth-year player has two years of eligibility remaining. He has been terrific for the Orange, making the freshman All-American teams in his first year, followed by a solid sophomore year and a better junior year.
Carter was a menace with takeaways this season, grabbing three interceptions to go along with a fumble recovery that he took to the house. He played his best football in a three-game stretch against Pittsburgh (https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/tag/pittsburgh/), Notre Dame (https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/), and Clemson (https://clemsonwire.usatoday.com/). Carter had 20 tackles, 3 picks, and a fumble recovery during that run.
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4 turnovers is menacing?
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For Syracuse perhaps You've double bogeyed a couple of times isn't it.
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rumors starting to swirl that USC CB Domani Jackson may hit the portal. Jackson is from LA area and was a 5*, the #1 CB, and the #5 player overall in the 2022 class according to 247Composite. He was *this* close to going to Michigan last time around, wonder if they'll be a factor here if he hits the portal. He grew up a fan of Michigan and became really good friends with fellow 5* CB Will Johnson.
Wonder if Michigan will be a factor here if he decides to bolt from 'SC. Makes sense that Michigan would want to go after him again with CB DJ Turner declaring for the NFL draft and CB Gemon Green up in the air if he wants to try his hand at the NFL or come back for a 6th year. Kid also has to be watching how awesome Will Johnson played as a true frosh on a playoff team and thinking man, I'd like to do that as well. Meanwhile he didn't really get developed on an awful defense.....which is probably why he's likely leaving.
Michigan just signed Jyaire Hill, a guy who the Michigan staff is super high on and feels like he's a 5 star player. BERT was trying everything under the sun to keep him home in Illinois. Kid is a big-time talent. Adding Domani and Hill to Will Johnson, Mike Sainistril, and Rod Moore- who were all first year starters- man that secondary would have some reaaaaaal nice potential.
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sounds like WR Andrel Anthony is going to either Oklahoma or Miami.
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sounds like WR Andrel Anthony is going to either Oklahoma or Miami.
Miami isn't great, and has a ton of NIL money. So he can play and get paid, that makes sense. Oklahoma is weirder. They certainly have issues, but generally not skill position players. If a defender left Michigan for Oklahoma PT, that check sout
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Miami isn't great, and has a ton of NIL money. So he can play and get paid, that makes sense. Oklahoma is weirder. They certainly have issues, but generally not skill position players. If a defender left Michigan for Oklahoma PT, that check sout
He’s got the connection with Gattis- which is crazy to me bc any player that wants to play in a Gattis offense gotta have a screw loose. Miami does have the NIL in place so he can get paaaaaid.
Insiders close to the situation on the M boards are saying he’s looking for an offense that passes the ball a lot and he’s looking to go somewhere that he’ll be the featured receiver. Miami & Oklahoma apparently both telling him he’s their #1 guy if he comes- which is why it’s down to those two as of right now.
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Supposedly he's got offers from ND/MSU/PSU & UCLA also. Had a decent season in '21 avg 20 ypc,then a drop off this season not sure why. Guess he's from the E.L. area
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Supposedly he's got offers from ND/MSU/PSU & UCLA also. Had a decent season in '21 avg 20 ypc,then a drop off this season not sure why. Guess he's from the E.L. area
he was dealing with injuries this year and also: Ronnie Bell came back from injury. Bell was out all last year with the ACL. Michigan doesn't throw the football a ton as is. The TE's are going to eat up a lot of the passing game targets and Ronnie Bell is going to get vast majority of the WR targets. So not only was he dealing with nagging minor injuries all-season but his opportunities decreased with Ronnie Bell coming back healthy.
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Bell is leaving though right? I'm not familiar with the UM's WR depth
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Make it seven additions from the transfer portal for first-year head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and Wisconsin. Monday morning, Michigan State transfer and junior defensive end Jeff Pietrowski (https://247sports.com/Player/Jeff-Pietrowski-46052116) announced his commitment to the Badgers.
Pietrowski was the most experienced defensive end for the Spartans. He played in 23 career games, but suffered a lower leg injury against Washington early in the season and appeared in just three contests in 2022, finishing with seven tackles.
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He's the second one, after Bernard, that I would have preferred to keep. He was a little undersized and got passed up on the depth chart, even before the injury, but I would have preferred he stay
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Former Cincinnati offensive lineman (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709) (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709)Jake Renfro (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709) has committed to Wisconsin, he announced Sunday night.
Renfro made two visits to check out the Badgers, most recently on Wednesday. The 6-foot-3, 310-pound lineman is coming off an official visit to LSU.
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Former Cincinnati offensive lineman (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709) (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709)Jake Renfro (https://247sports.com/Player/Jake-Renfro-46079709) has committed to Wisconsin, he announced Sunday night.
Renfro made two visits to check out the Badgers, most recently on Wednesday. The 6-foot-3, 310-pound lineman is coming off an official visit to LSU.
Oh Great another Bastage UW Coach gonna 'croot Ohio,Luke's old stomping grounds
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didn't see this, but maybe the top CB in the transfer portal, Fentrell Cyprus from Virginia has transferred to Florida State. Yeah, I don't see the sense in that. Especially when Ohio State and Michigan were both after him. Florida State is unmitigated trash. Ohio State has been one of the top 3 programs in CFB for like two decades and Michigan has been winning the B1G yearly and going to the playoff the last 2 years and looks like they've got a great shot to make it 3 in a row.
Florida State is.....????
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So, two down, and 5 more coming.
(https://i.imgur.com/W3tIEDO.jpg)
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Virginia transfer portal wide receiver Billy Kemp IV announced he plans to be a Husker. The sixth-year senior comes to Lincoln with one year of eligibility and is one of the all-time leading receivers in Cavalier program history.
Kemp ranks fourth all time on the Cavaliers’ career reception list with 192 catches and 10th all-time in receiving yards with 1,774.
While at Virginia, the 5-foot-9, 172-pound Kemp was a jack of all trades. He is one of the program’s all-time leading receivers, and he led the Cavaliers in punt return yardage each of the last four seasons.
At Nebraska, he expects to have a similar role. During his time at UVA, he had 64 attempted punt returns for 371 yards. He also fair caught 76 punts. In 50 games of action, he fielded 130 total punts.
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There will be three new quarterbacks on Wisconsin's roster when the 2023 college football season starts this fall.
On Tuesday, Mississippi State quarterback transfer Braedyn Locke (https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750) announced his commitment to the Badgers, joining fellow signal callers Tanner Mordecai (https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Mordecai-91436) (SMU) and Nick Evers (https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Evers-46097634) (Oklahoma).
A true freshman, Locke did not play for the Bulldogs during the 2022 season. Locke was a former 247sports composite four-star recruit coming out of Rockwall High School in Texas.
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so, the Badgers are going away from the fullback and the Huskers are going back to the fullback?
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The two FB's on UW's roster can also play H Back, which is a good thing.
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Meanwhile...
Make it five transfer commitments in five days for head coach (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88)Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and Wisconsin, and ninth overall. On Tuesday, Ohio transfer kicker (https://247sports.com/Player/Nathanial-Vakos-46129015)Nathanial Vakos (https://247sports.com/Player/Nathanial-Vakos-46129015) announced his intentions to play for the Badgers in 2023.
As a true freshman, Vakos made 22-of-27 field goal attempts, including 2-of-4 from 50-plus yards and 3-of-5 from 40-49 yards. He also cashed in on 49 of his 50 extra point attempts. In the Arizona Bowl win over Wyoming, Vakot hit a 56-yard attempt to send the game into overtime as the Bearcats finished their season 10-4.
The Badgers beat out Cincinnati for Vakos, who entered the transfer portal on Jan. 2.
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The two FB's on UW's roster can also play H Back, which is a good thing.
they can portal to Lincoln
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former Michigan WR Andrel Anthony to Oklahoma.
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my god dear lord in heaven BERT is such an insufferable unbearable fat fking pig douchenozzle...
https://twitter.com/BretBielema/status/1612907532242276353?s=20&t=mKIAVEkwv_V8yT6A-0kHKQ
https://twitter.com/BretBielema/status/1612907855694135297?s=20&t=YZOaKY5fVIcHdl6H_7D_zg
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this makes the chances...which was already very real and significant....that USC CB Domani Jackson hits the portal probably higher....
Grinch must have pics or dirt on Riley....only explanation.
https://twitter.com/Ryan_Kartje/status/1612887532332802050?s=20&t=5Vd7fY98O1s5aUz-QCdHTw
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So Bert lost Jones to Auburn because of NIL? how is that his fault,I'm not defending him just curious
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Grinch must have pics or dirt on Riley....only explanation.
Gator Guy and i already came to that conclusion in another thread. Grinch getting a lot of mileage out two decent seasons under the Pirate in the Paloose
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my god dear lord in heaven BERT is such an insufferable unbearable fat fking pig douchenozzle...
https://twitter.com/BretBielema/status/1612907532242276353?s=20&t=mKIAVEkwv_V8yT6A-0kHKQ
https://twitter.com/BretBielema/status/1612907855694135297?s=20&t=YZOaKY5fVIcHdl6H_7D_zg
How is he wrong?
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A wild Tuesday on the recruiting trail comes to a close as (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88)Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and Wisconsin picked up their third addition from the transfer portal on the day. Closing out a huge 24-hour period and last five days overall, Cincinnati wide receiver transfer (https://247sports.com/Player/Will-Pauling-46086326)Will Pauling (https://247sports.com/Player/Will-Pauling-46086326) announced his commitment to the Badgers.
A redshirt freshman, Pauling caught 12 passes for 122 yards last season on 23 targets. Per Pro Football Focus, Pauling had just one drop and was credited with five contested catches. Pauling also played in four games as a true freshman in 2021, recording one reception for six yards.
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How is he wrong?
he's a sore loser. That was a loss, BERT was after that players ass hard. NIL is here to stay. Tough titty fat boy BERT. Makes no sense for his fat fkn pig ass to bitch and moan about it publicly on twitter. It's a bad look for a head coach to do that on twitter it's a semi-kind of a classless shot at the kid. But that's who BERT is- he's a classless fat fk sore loser whiny bitch.
The irony in it all is that nobody ever is going to go to Illinois if they have better options. Illinois is a nothing have-not program. It's always going to be that. No matter what fat boy does. NIL might be the only thing that helps Illinois become a decent program- if they embrace it and use it the right way.
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Well Jones was never an Illini. I'm sure bert wanted him but he hardly said anything there cringe worthy like he did a few years back. Part of the problem with this are these misguided dweebs who reside on these sites having to throw shade on every single thing. Perhaps they should stretch their legs and try something different like employment. And the Illini came close to dumping Jeem in November
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Wisconsin and head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) picked up its 11th addition from the transfer portal. On Wednesday, Cincinnati wide receiver transfer Quincy Burroughs (https://247sports.com/Player/Quincy-Burroughs-46099242) announced his intentions to play for the Badgers in 2023.
Burroughs chose UW over South Florida, Georgia Tech, Memphis, and others.
A true freshman, Burroughs did not appear in any games for the Bearcats last season. A former three-star recruit out of Jacksonville Raines High School, Burroughs chose UC over Oregon State, UConn, and more. As a senior in high school, Burroughs caught 32 passes for 454 yards and three touchdowns. He also won a state championship in the 4x400 relay in 2021.
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There will be three new quarterbacks on Wisconsin's roster when the 2023 college football season starts this fall.
On Tuesday, Mississippi State quarterback transfer Braedyn Locke (https://247sports.com/Player/Braedyn-Locke-46093750) announced his commitment to the Badgers, joining fellow signal callers Tanner Mordecai (https://247sports.com/Player/Tanner-Mordecai-91436) (SMU) and Nick Evers (https://247sports.com/Player/Nick-Evers-46097634) (Oklahoma).
A true freshman, Locke did not play for the Bulldogs during the 2022 season. Locke was a former 247sports composite four-star recruit coming out of Rockwall High School in Texas.
Did they not have any in the stable? I mean how many do you need, someone tell these guys you can only play one at a time. Be interesting to see what Luke does with the offense.
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They only had three scholarship QB's on the roster. Wolf, Burkett (2022 signee) and LaCrue (2023 signee).
Wolf is entering his 6th season, and will mostly be in a coaching role, if you will.
Burkett has seemingly been recruited over, given that two of the transfers are in his same class.
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Burkett's latest tweet ("Compete with your brothers...love and work always!!!") suggests he knows he's got work to do. Fickell has to be telling all of these guys that they will have to earn the job on the field. Reminds me of what Carroll used to say at USC--everyone has to compete for their position every day. That will definitely be a change in the way Wisconsin approaches its QB position.
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Former Stanford offensive tackle Walter Rouse announced he’ll join Nebraska this year for his final year of college eligibility. He is a William V. Campbell Trophy finalist and starter in every game throughout his first three seasons.
The 6-foot-6, 318-pound tackle has played 40 games throughout his four years of college football thus far. He chose Nebraska over Iowa and Oklahoma, all of which he attended for official visits in the last week. He was originally a 3-star prospect from Washington, D.C. with 37 offers, including visits also to Northwestern and Notre Dame. Nebraska extended a scholarship offer to him in high school.
Rouse joins former Arizona State offensive lineman Ben Scott as veteran offensive linemen who arrived in Lincoln for the 2023 via the portal. Returning veteran offensive linemen for Nebraska are Turner Corcoran, Teddy Prochazka, Henry Lutovsky, Hunter Anthony, Ethan Piper and Bryce Benhart. Nebraska has also signed six offensive linemen out of high school as part of the 2023 recruiting class.
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https://twitter.com/TomBraggSports/status/1613221638165696513?s=20&t=dhfLMURqYLSQAS2JS7e2Hg
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NCCA changing the portal rules a little bit...trying not to make it a little bit less of a chaotic cluster fk free for all...looks like they are trying to limit 2nd time transfers a bit and get rid of this JT Daniels like situation where you just bounce around to a new school every off-season
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-council-votes-to-limit-eligibility-for-second-time-transfers-to-curb-ballooning-portal-usage/
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Brian Kelly's first big 'croot at LSU leaving. QB Walker Howard hitting the portal.
https://247sports.com/Player/Walker-Howard-46058715/
https://twitter.com/Walker_Howard4/status/1470191799662792705?s=20&t=epZs7XaEqltQV-o6KDFBtw
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NCCA changing the portal rules a little bit...trying not to make it a little bit less of a chaotic cluster fk free for all...looks like they are trying to limit 2nd time transfers a bit and get rid of this JT Daniels like situation where you just bounce around to a new school every off-season
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-council-votes-to-limit-eligibility-for-second-time-transfers-to-curb-ballooning-portal-usage/
Should have thought about this in the first place, but...
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better late than never
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In the WI offseason thread, too, but Badgers/Fickell landed CJ Williams, too. Definitely hitting the portal hard and with a lot of success (on paper).
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In the WI offseason thread, too, but Badgers/Fickell landed CJ Williams, too. Definitely hitting the portal hard and with a lot of success (on paper).
Do recall an offseason this exciting, as in ever? I knew he'd shake things up, but man, the Wisconsin Way is no longer.
In one of the biggest recruiting wins in program history, Wisconsin and head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) have landed USC wide receiver transfer C.J. Williams (https://247sports.com/Player/CJ-Williams-46082278).
A former Top 100 recruit, Williams chose the Trojans over Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, UCLA, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, LSU, Florida State, Penn State, Florida, and others when coming out of Mater Dei High School in California. Per 247sports, Williams was the nation's seventh ranked wide receiver in the class of 2022.
Per 247sports national recruiting analyst Greg Biggins, Williams is a projected 2nd or 3rd round NFL Draft pick who draws comparisons to Los Angeles Chargers receiver Keenan Allen.
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Do recall an offseason this exciting, as in ever? I knew he'd shake things up, but man, the Wisconsin Way is no longer.
In one of the biggest recruiting wins in program history, Wisconsin and head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) have landed USC wide receiver transfer C.J. Williams (https://247sports.com/Player/CJ-Williams-46082278).
A former Top 100 recruit, Williams chose the Trojans over Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, UCLA, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, LSU, Florida State, Penn State, Florida, and others when coming out of Mater Dei High School in California. Per 247sports, Williams was the nation's seventh ranked wide receiver in the class of 2022.
Per 247sports national recruiting analyst Greg Biggins, Williams is a projected 2nd or 3rd round NFL Draft pick who draws comparisons to Los Angeles Chargers receiver Keenan Allen.
Ok- won’t say this again for a while…but…your going to like this guy coaching your team.
And, I really think he will work hard to keep much of “ the WisconsinWay”. Very well trained, big offensive line, elite running backs and TEs.
Just more balance on O to create more conflict for the opposing D
Losing JL as your DC sucks- he was damn good. But remember Fick is a Defense first guy with a great track record too.
I feel like the Wisc. program is going to be extremely well positioned, almost immediately, for the new teams coming into the big 10 from the West Coast as well as the 12 team playoff.
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And on and on it goes.
Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and Wisconsin will not stop adding high level talent to the program.
Picking up their 13th transfer commitment, the Badgers reeled in Oklahoma State transfer wide receiver Bryson Green (https://247sports.com/Player/Bryson-Green-46051275) on Friday, capping off a monster seven days for the program.
UW beat out Auburn, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, and others for Green, who is coming off a sophomore season in which he caught 36 passes for 585 yards and five touchdowns in 10 games for the Cowboys. Green had three 100-yard receiving efforts, including 133 yards and a touchdown in a win over No. 22 Texas in October.
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Ok- won’t say this again for a while…but…your going to like this guy coaching your team.
And, I really think he will work hard to keep much of “ the WisconsinWay”. Very well trained, big offensive line, elite running backs and TEs.
Just more balance on O to create more conflict for the opposing D
Losing JL as your DC sucks- he was damn good. But remember Fick is a Defense first guy with a great track record too.
I feel like the Wisc. program is going to be extremely well positioned, almost immediately, for the new teams coming into the big 10 from the West Coast as well as the 12 team playoff.
He's growing on me quickly.
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rasslin
(https://scontent-ord5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325276799_672877364633707_7331134688233489371_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=lwuIx4lbZeIAX9HFmEg&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-2.xx&oh=00_AfDizxBHTPGRGLQPTUyPEq9lZHdIZ_C6FrDui1NKjMtK1A&oe=63C726B3)
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And on and on it goes.
Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/Luke-Fickell-88) and Wisconsin will not stop adding high level talent to the program.
Picking up their 13th transfer commitment, the Badgers reeled in Oklahoma State transfer wide receiver Bryson Green (https://247sports.com/Player/Bryson-Green-46051275) on Friday, capping off a monster seven days for the program.
UW beat out Auburn, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, and others for Green, who is coming off a sophomore season in which he caught 36 passes for 585 yards and five touchdowns in 10 games for the Cowboys. Green had three 100-yard receiving efforts, including 133 yards and a touchdown in a win over No. 22 Texas in October.
They have four receivers I think can be very functional and two tailbacks.
We're getting dangerously close to 2018 offense hype.
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Any time the buckeyes have to travel to play against Wisconsin at camp Randall, would make me very nervous.
With fickle there and what I think he’s capable of, the tension level just went up two notches. October 28.
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Zavier Betts stepped away from Nebraska football last year. Betts has since entered the transfer portal, but could be returning to play for the Huskers in 2023, per The Athletic’s Mitch Sherman.
Betts is reportedly intending to rejoin the team and play for Matt Rhule. Betts was a former 4-star WR from the 2020 class per the 247Sports Composite.
Betts played 18 total games in the two years he spent at Nebraska. He caught 32 passes or 417 yards receiving and 1 touchdown during that time.
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Sooooooo...
the 4/5* QB we turned from Miami (he's from CA) hasn't enrolled.
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The kid isn't to blame. However many millions of $$$ he was told he'd get....he didn't get (from the 3rd-party group - ie, not UF).
The HC isn't to blame. Napier and the university have nothing to do with what the kid was promised (officially).
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The person or group that set a $$$ number and didn't come through is royally screwing UF, so thanks for that.
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kid was smart
cash the check before you sign the paperwork
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Well it's the new version of "who's the dipshit booster who got us put on probation" and it's turned into "who's the dipshit booster who quoted this kid a (legal) number and didn't produce"
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Former Georgia linebacker Mekhail “MJ” Sherman pledged to Nebraska following his official visit and a week after convincingly winning the national title. The former 5-star recruit from the 2020 class tallied one tackle in that game.
Sherman entered the portal on Friday. He largely played special teams in three seasons for the Bulldogs. The vast majority of his true defensive snaps came in a reserve role. Sherman’s stat line over those three seasons includes 15 tackles, 1.0 TFLs and 0.5 sack. He became one of the displaced players who couldn’t crack the lineup as the Bulldogs continued to add highly touted recruits. Last season, he played a team-high 226 special teams snaps but just 42 defensive snaps in 13 games.
The Washington, D.C., native previously told Athens media the team’s national title campaigns helped him grow as a player and a person. Georgia head coach Kirby Smart spoke highly of Sherman’s contributions as well.
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Nebraska wide receiver Isaiah Garcia-Castaneda isn’t leaving Lincoln just yet, as he’s withdrawn his name from the NCAA Transfer Portal, per Matt Zenitz of On3.
The Cornhuskers wide out originally entered the portal all the way back in October, but he’ll be staying put with Nebraska after a couple months of uncertainty.
A former New Mexico State transfer, Isaiah Garcia-Castaneda thought he found a home at Nebraska. While it seemed like his time was up, he’s attempting a second go-round with the Cornhuskers, and hopefully this one will be more fruitful.
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Any time the buckeyes have to travel to play against Wisconsin at camp Randall, would make me very nervous.
With fickle there and what I think he’s capable of, the tension level just went up two notches. October 28.
I hope so. I used to really look forward to OSU games, but it's been a long time since the Badgers won one, and I'm still smarting from the 2017 and 2019 B1G championship games.
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Looks like Graham Mertz will be starting for Florida.
https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/florida-qb-signee-jaden-rashada-files-letter-of-intent-release (https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/florida-qb-signee-jaden-rashada-files-letter-of-intent-release)
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Looks like Graham Mertz will be starting for Florida.
https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/florida-qb-signee-jaden-rashada-files-letter-of-intent-release (https://www.si.com/college/2023/01/18/florida-qb-signee-jaden-rashada-files-letter-of-intent-release)
will be really wild if Graham Mertz gets Paul Chryst and then Billy Napier fired...
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PC got PC fired. It was his vision for the program, or lack thereof, that did him in.
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PC got PC fired. It was his vision for the program, or lack thereof, that did him in.
probably true. PC put all his QB eggs in a dogsh*t QB basket. among other things. but that was primarily what did him in imo. If Mertz didn't suck as hard as he does- Wisconsin probably would've won a lot more games and PC might actually still be there.
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I think Mertz was a victim of a bad offense and bad play calling.
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I think Mertz was a victim of a bad offense and bad play calling.
gonna have to agree to disagree. I think Mertz is just a victim of....being bad at playing QB. Really bad.
Looks like tarzan in t-shirt and shorts throwing the ball vs air in summer 7on7. Plays like Jane in actual football games.
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We got 2 big OL from the portal: one from Baylor and the other from Bama. So maybe Mertz will be well-protected.
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well for mertz sake hope they're all that
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I think Mertz was a victim of a bad offense and bad play calling.
I don’t know that the offense helped, but Mertz also simply wasn’t good enough.
Mediocre QBs can be fine in that scheme. We’re for a long time. Graham didn’t even reach “fine.” No one figured out a magic solve five years ago.
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Decision making was not his strong point.
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RE: Mertz
2020 QB Coach - Jon Budmayr
2021 QB Coach - Paul Chryst
2022 QB Coach - Bobby Engram (WTF???)
2020 OC - Joe Rudolph
2021 OC - Paul Chryst
2022 OC - Bobby Engram*
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Ya the kid could have got as much help from watching YouTube
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He certainly wasn't given any favors.
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This from 11 Warriors
Ohio State has finally landed a transfer offensive lineman.
Victor Cutler, who made 21 starts on Louisiana-Monroe’s offensive line over the past three seasons, announced his commitment to Ohio State on Wednesday.Cutler was the Warhawks’ starting left tackle in 2022 and also has experience starting at center and right tackle. While Ohio State has a hole to fill at left tackle, Cutler likely projects to playing on the interior offensive line for the Buckeyes at 6-foot-3 and 302 pounds.
With a Pro Football Focus grade (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/players/2022/REGPO/victor-cutler/98229/offense) of just 42.8 for the 2022 season, Cutler won’t come to Ohio State as a sure bet to earn a starting spot. That said, he earned one of his highest grades of the year last season against Alabama, allowing zero pressures in pass protection. And he gives the Buckeyes another veteran offensive lineman with significant starting experience, which Ohio State lacked outside of returning starters Donovan Jackson and Matt Jones. His experience playing both tackle positions and center could allow him to provide depth at all five offensive line spots.
So healthy and at least serviceable maybe more - good pick up
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RE: Mertz
2020 QB Coach - Jon Budmayr
2021 QB Coach - Paul Chryst
2022 QB Coach - Bobby Engram (WTF???)
2020 OC - Joe Rudolph
2021 OC - Paul Chryst
2022 OC - Bobby Engram*
I mean, that’s all structurally one offense overseen by one person. And while it’s not ideal, people have dragged their way to passing competence in worse spots.
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Too many cooks in the kitchen.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Xnl0dpg.png)
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Dean couldn't get on the field much last season as a WR, but I thought he should have stayed at corner and not tried WR. Not sure if was his idea or his dad's idea, but it was a bad one.
If he moved back to D, I'd love for him to stay.
But now that UW just brought in two highly rated 2023 WR kids and four highly rated transfer WR kids, there is no way he sees the field at WR for UW.
CB, for sure he'd play.
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He's growing on me quickly.
He was my wish-list coach after the O debacle. Not that I thought he had any interest, ergo, wish-list. I'll be very interested to see how he does in Madison. Out of the guys who were realistic, I wanted to give Napier a shot.
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Well it's the new version of "who's the dipshit booster who got us put on probation" and it's turned into "who's the dipshit booster who quoted this kid a (legal) number and didn't produce"
At least y'all are trying. We are laughably behind the times in the new NIL world. Literally one lawyer somewhere has inked every single deal in all sports, that I know of. I mean....he can't have that much $. And while I don't know the value of any of the deals, I'm lead to believe it's not much.
General vibe is the local businessmen need to step up BIG. Not sure how current pitches come off when we're only offering the same thing we could offer 10 years ago, but in a world where some Alabama car dealership will give them a mil.
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Georgia TE Arik Gilbert announced his commitment to Nebraska Thursday afternoon.
The 6-foot-5, 250 pounder previously played for LSU, before transferring to the in-state Georgia Bulldogs.
He was ranked as the No. 5 player in the 2020 class. Gilbert also tabbed in as the No.1 tight end and the top player in the state of Georgia.
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:D sounds like they were wrong, they meant 5 string J/K FF. See what Rhule can do with him
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just cause he's not the number 1 option in Gawja, doesn't mean he can't be the #1 option in Lincoln
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Georgia TE Arik Gilbert announced his commitment to Nebraska Thursday afternoon.
The 6-foot-5, 250 pounder previously played for LSU, before transferring to the in-state Georgia Bulldogs.
He was ranked as the No. 5 player in the 2020 class. Gilbert also tabbed in as the No.1 tight end and the top player in the state of Georgia.
I hope Gilbert works out. He was the highest rated tight end in history comiing out of hs. He left LSU and we had high hopes of a 3 headed tight end monster but he kept having undisclosed personal problems and we couldn't get him on the field. If he gets it together he is a 1st round draft pick, big, fast and great hands
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If he gets it together - well that kind of stands for all of the 4*/5*s
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It was never fully known to the public what his deal was at LSU. Certainly wasn't a lack of natural talent.
All we ever heard was it was not disciplinary problems, not bad chemistry with teammates, no personal problems or run-ins with the coaches. All very mercurial.
Most of us were left feeling like he just wanted to be closer to home. Now with the Nebraska xfer, who knows.
Physical freak, tho.
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fingers crossed
Fidone was the country’s top tight end recruit and a top 40 recruit in the 21 class, the highest-rated recruit to sign with NU since 2008
Hasn't don't much besides get injured and ride the bench
just need to get them both going now.
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fingers crossed
Fidone was the country’s top tight end recruit and a top 40 recruit in the 21 class, the highest-rated recruit to sign with NU since 2008
Hasn't don't much besides get injured and ride the bench,just need to get them both going now.
Double TE formations worx for Georgia
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two TEs, a fullback and an I-back have worked in Lincoln in the past
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Tyler Stewart
If we keep getting Georgia guys, we will have to change our name to the Corndawgs
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Jeebis they keep this up factoring in the newcoming coaches/teams the balance in the BIG TEN could head west
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the Penn St guy's wife was named Corndawg, right?
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Nebraska got Arik Gilbert, lol. He makes Tate Martell look like the marrying kind. Have fun with that.
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He makes Tate Martell look like the marrying kind.
I have no reference
I'm guessing the kid is a helluva athlete, especially for his size.
With the right motivation and development (ie coaching) he could be a decent starter
potentially of course
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He makes Tate Martell look like the marrying kind.
I have no reference
I'm guessing the kid is a helluva athlete, especially for his size.
With the right motivation and development (ie coaching) he could be a decent starter
potentially of course
Martell bounced around transferring more than he played.
Gilbert went to LSU, had a good year, went to Florida for like 5 minutes, then went to UGA. Played in a couple of games, left, been in limbo since September, and is now the Cornhuskers' problem.
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I'm guessing if he's a problem in Lincoln, he won't be there long
but hay, he can always go west to Boulder with Coach prime next
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Wow, more info on Rashada leaving UF......"insiders" say it wasn't Napier, wasn't the kid, wasn't the 'Gator Collective,' but a 4th party that communicated the $13 million number that got Rashada's signature on an NLI. FFS.
And that was known the Dec 7th and the after the collective saw that number and said NOPE, Napier and the kid, to their credit, communicated and tried to have this work, but after a month, couldn't do it.
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What a stupid mess.
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could have worked
just not enough Benjamin's
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could have worked
just not enough Benjamin's
It's not even that, it's that someone with no authority concerning the money was the one who made the deal. Even if you have the money, you're not going to pay up just because some other jackwagon said you would.
fwiw, I'm glad UF isn't shelling out $13 mil for one player. That's nuts.
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What a stupid mess. bag of snakes
FIFY
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fwiw, I'm glad UF isn't shelling out $13 mil for one player. That's nuts.
Brazen,wanton greed and it starts with the NFL/Networks/Agents. Pretty soon gonna be like the 1st half of the last century folks gathered around the radio. Because of the price of watching a game in your own living room
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The Nebraska football team has added a third player from the University of Georgia.
Bulldog transfer offensive lineman Jacob Hood announced his commitment to the Huskers after a visit to Lincoln this past weekend.
The 6-foot-8, 350-pound Hood spent just one season in Athens before entering the transfer portal on Jan. 13. He is the second transfer portal player NU has added on the offensive line, joining Arizona State center Ben Scott. Nebraska also signed five high school players in its offensive line class.
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Arik Gilbert has considerable talent at football. For some reason he transferred to a program with two tight ends that are better than he is, and he appears to have some other issues.
Brock Bowers is a junior next year ....
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Georgia DT Bear Alexander (6'3, 305) hits the portal in a bit of a stunner. Alexander was a top 50 overall 'croot in the nation in the '22 class and really flashed for Georgia in the national title game vs TCU. Looked very promising for a true frosh DT. Pretty sure he's going to be hounded by every coach in the nation now that he's hit the portal.
Rumors are he's leaning USC. Which, if true have to question this kids sanity. Any defensive kid who willingly goes to play football for Lincoln Riley is....pretty dumb. Especially one that is already playing for Kirby Smart- a defensive guru.
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he could follow the other 3 transfers from the Dawgs to UNL
immediate playing time on the Dline
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and the UGA DT that hit the portal has committed to USC....talk about dumbass sh!t.
Yeah, I've got Kirby Smart- the best defensive coach in the game at the moment coaching me- a dude who stays pumping out high NFL draft picks on defense- we just won a natty and made some huge plays in the title game as a true frosh- so yeah let me go transfer and finish my career playing for a guy in Lincoln Riley that has less than zero clue when it comes to defense and couldn't field a defense if his life depended on it. Has Lincoln Riley ever even had a defensive player drafted in the first 3 rounds? Honest question. Kirby has only coached probably dozens of 1st rd draft picks on defense if you include his time as BAMA DC.
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Bear will likely look like a standout at USC ...
NIL?
The Dawgs have two more NTs this year who would play a lot even with Bear.
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he could follow the other 3 transfers from the Dawgs to UNL
immediate playing time on the Dline
Thanks to the transfer portal, teams can now have pipelines to other programs? Sheeesh.
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not a surprise. he’s bad at WR. Excellent return man, reverse guy, and in space.
Should’ve been a RB imo.
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not that big of a surprise but thought he'd stay. Rod Moore, Makari Paige, and Moten were all co-starters at safety, with Paige eating a lot of his minutes and young former top 100 overall recruits at the position from '22 in Zeke Berry and Keon Sabb right on his heels.
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Michigan MLB Nikahi Hill Green has hit the portal as well. NHG was a starter in '21 but missed all of the '22 season with hamstring injuries. He had attempted to make a comeback and was with the team during spring. My guess is the Nebraska transfer Earnest Hausmann might've taken his starting spot. If that is the case- he's good enough to start somewhere else so can't say I blame him.
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I noted before one can portal and test the waters. It makes sense to do so unless you're really committed to your team. See who offers what and go there. A prominent player is going to get a lot of attention, he won't end up at Akron.
And a player who is 3rd string could also leave of course thinking playing at Akron is better than riding the pine at Alabama.
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I noted before one can portal and test the waters. It makes sense to do so unless you're really committed to your team. See who offers what and go there. A prominent player is going to get a lot of attention, he won't end up at Akron.
And a player who is 3rd string could also leave of course thinking playing at Akron is better than riding the pine at Alabama.
Not really. When a kid goes into the portal, the school is under no obligation to take him back.
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Not really. When a kid goes into the portal, the school is under no obligation to take him back.
Sure, they aren't, which is why I said for kids who feel no allegiance to their school. But for a pretty good player who is looking for $$$, I think it makes sense to test the waters if he's virtually a lock to get attention from several other P5 teams.
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I think Michigan would take Moten and NHG back, if they wanted back. Both are really good players who provide excellent depth at worst- and could be quality starters on a good defense.
AJ Henning, not so much. He's pretty much only good for returning punts and reverses. I'm sure they'd probably rather use that scholarship somewhere else.
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Notre Dame QB Tyler Buchner hits the portal. The Hartman transfer from Wake Forrest took what Buchner thought would be his job and kid has hit the portal.
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Florida has 2 starters in the portal - a WR and a good pass-rushing edge guy.
The WR has definitely underachieved - he's a long-strider with almost no quick-twitch to him. It's been so weird seeing him return punts and get a lot of bubble screens for a guy like that. His game is literally the opposite of that.
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coaching
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So, what is the risk/downside of a Bear Alexander type portaling? He might not win another NC? It seems likely to me he'll get more NIL. He'll get more PT (which could be bad). I don't know about coaching and development, that could be a downside, and not playing against elite OLs.
I guess I answered my question.
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So, what is the risk/downside of a Bear Alexander type portaling? He might not win another NC? It seems likely to me he'll get more NIL. He'll get more PT (which could be bad). I don't know about coaching and development, that could be a downside, and not playing against elite OLs.
I guess I answered my question.
there's your answer right there. he's flat out not going to develop and reach his full potential at a place like Lincoln Riley's USC program like he could've at Kirby Smart's Georgia program.
He'll probably get more NIL $$ right now, maybe he gets more playing time. Those are the only positives. At the moment. And those positives could turn out to be negatives. Maybe he winds up not developing and getting drafted as high as he should/could- and all he would've done is trade in higher long term $$$ via the draft for some quick NIL cash.
The first legit stud defensive lineman that Lincoln Riley develops will be....well the first one he's ever developed. Riley wouldn't know defense if it slapped him in the face.
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/colorado-buffaloes-18-players-enter-transfer-portal-following-spring-game
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46 total now
I get that the roster was bad, but you can't just churn this amount of the roster and expect anything. Including their best player in the spring game, their leading tackler from last year.
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46 total now
I get that the roster was bad, but you can't just churn this amount of the roster and expect anything. Including their best player in the spring game, their leading tackler from last year.
it will be interesting to see what kind of team they come up with
my question how in the world did UC get 41 players another team would be interested in
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not all 41 will end up at P5 programs
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not all 41 will end up at P5 programs
Even when Tucker came in and flipped the roster at MSU, I think it was 23 kids, and only 2(?) were starters. And they went 2-5
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46 total now
I get that the roster was bad, but you can't just churn this amount of the roster and expect anything. Including their best player in the spring game, their leading tackler from last year.
yeah that's an insanely high number. they're definitely going to suck this year- and maybe even next year as well. it's gonna take prime a few seasons methinks to flip that roster to where he wants it.
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it will be interesting to see what kind of team they come up with
my question how in the world did UC get 41 players another team would be interested in
I'm guessing less than 1/3 of those kids will have P5 chances - if that many.
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"best player in the spring game" is utterly meaningless
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but, much better than being the worst player in the spring game
you'd expect that poor kid to transfer
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"best player in the spring game" is utterly meaningless
Except when it comes to opportunity
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I don't view it as "utterly meaningless". It's one bit of data, often misleading, but at times a sign a player is breaking out. But one of the stars in the Dawg ST last year was Arik Gilbert at TE, he's now in Lincoln.
Very talented player, no doubt, could be some head issues.
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I haven't watched the tape yet, but according to stats, Gilbert didn't catch a pass in the Husker Spring Game
Georgia transfer Arik Gilbert dropped a perfectly-thrown 30-yard opportunity from Heinrich Haarberg and later caught a ball out of bounds.
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Nebraska defensive lineman Stephon Wynn has entered the NCAA Transfer Portal, according to On3’s Matt Zenitz.
This past year was his first with the Cornhuskers after spending the first years of his career with Alabama.
Wynn played high school football at Bradenton (Fla.) IMG Academy, where he was a four-star prospect. He was the No. 84 overall recruit and No. 9 defensive lineman in the 2018 cycle, according to the On3
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I haven't watched the tape yet, but according to stats, Gilbert didn't catch a pass in the Husker Spring Game
Georgia transfer Arik Gilbert dropped a perfectly-thrown 30-yard opportunity from Heinrich Haarberg and later caught a ball out of bounds.
4th program.....LSu, Florida, UGA, Nebraska....if we assume he enjoys playing football, he doesn't play much football. He must like paperwork and practice. Maybe he just like wearing different uniforms most of all.
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Ohio State WR Caleb Burton in the portal. Class of '22, gone after just one year. He was a 5* early on the 'crootin process but saw his rankings tumble into top 150 overall range. He's from Texas, so wonder if he goes back home to play for the Longhorns or A&M.
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TCU
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4th program.....LSu, Florida, UGA, Nebraska....if we assume he enjoys playing football, he doesn't play much football. He must like paperwork and practice. Maybe he just like wearing different uniforms most of all.
well, he was playin with the two's
the ball tossed OB might not have been his fault
drops aren't good
I think he'll be playin meaningful snaps next season
what do I know?
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I don't view it as "utterly meaningless". It's one bit of data, often misleading, but at times a sign a player is breaking out. But one of the stars in the Dawg ST last year was Arik Gilbert at TE, he's now in Lincoln.
Very talented player, no doubt, could be some head issues.
Well if he headed to lincoln he has some head issues
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I'd like to see Gilbert gets his S together and play meaningful snaps. I am dubious. He was behind 3 other guys at UGA.
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he appears to be behind a couple in Lincoln, for now
this guy has some talent...... has been hampered by knee injuries
Thomas Fidone II was rated as the No. 1 tight end in the 2021 recruiting class by both Rivals and 247Sports. Rivals listed Fidone as the No. 31 overall recruit in the country, while 247Sports tabbed Fidone as the nation’s No. 41 recruit. He was the consensus pick as the top recruit in the state of Iowa. Fidone held offers from nearly every major program in the country and chose Nebraska over Iowa, LSU, Michigan, Notre Dame and Penn State.
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Michigan backup safety Demani Dent (6', 190) has hit the portal. Dent was a "lowly" 3* ranked in the 700's from the state of Florida in the 2022 class, he was expected to see time on special teams possibly as a frosh but suffered an injury which sidelined him for the year. He'll be a RS FR in '23 with 4 years of eligibility left. His only other P5 offers as a 'croot were Oregon and Pitt, will be interesting to see if he gets any P5 offers in the portal.
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former ND QB Tyler Buchner to BAMA. Ruh Roh. Call me crazy but methinks Bama is gonna kinda suck this year. I'm thinking 8-4/9-3 which is a great season for most programs- but for St Nick- if he's not undefeated/1-loss - they suck. He's made the standard there that high...
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Alabama addition of Tyler Buchner should have Georgia football feeling better about its quarterback stability (dawgnation.com) (https://www.dawgnation.com/football/around-the-sec/georgia-football-alabama-quarterbacks-tyler-buchner/C7YCBWBLZJDQPOFFP5RPTQXVD4/?fbclid=IwAR1WBz74sCn08IvA3evs4_0Aa7ebM4vsksjOBKa4sR3Ei5h25gxBNzVmeQQ)
This isn’t to say that Georgia is going to be a runaway national championship contender while Alabama is destined to finish 9-3. The best Smart and Saban teams have always been teams that haven’t had to rely on dynamic quarterback play to lift up the rest of the roster. As important as the quarterback is, it is only one of 11 players on the field.
Buchner very well could not even see the field this year. Perhaps Milroe or Simpson dazzle over the summer and fall and emerge as the starting quarterback. There’s also no guarantee that Beck is destined for stardom. Georgia once felt confident about D’Wan Mathis as the starting quarterback.
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Just saw that Minnesota has 18+ players in the portal. What's going on up there?
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tired of rowing the boat
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Uw has lost 3 CB's so far today. None were going to see the field, and the room is crowded. Can't blame them for looking elsewhere.
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yup, Huskers had 20 DBs on scholarship for 5 spots
one left yesterday
3-3-5 ya know
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I hear that 3-3-5 D is stout, I'm glad my Dawgs never had to face one, probably would get shut out ....
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Notre Dame RB Logan Diggs is in the portal. Diggs was their #2 RB and second leading rusher in '22 with 820 rushing yards and lead all offensive players in yards from scrimmage with 1,011 total yards rushing & receiving.
Hits keep coming for ND. Love it. Hope Ohio State boat races them Sept 23rd.
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Notre Dame RB Logan Diggs is in the portal. Diggs was their #2 RB and second leading rusher in '22 with 820 rushing yards and lead all offensive players in yards from scrimmage with 1,011 total yards rushing & receiving.
Hits keep coming for ND. Love it. Hope Ohio State boat races them Sept 23rd.
Likely to LSU with Kelly.
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Likely to LSU with Kelly.
Maybe Bama?
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Bama might have a couple 5 star RBs
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Maybe Bama?
Kelly recruited him and had him.
I honestly don’t think he’s Bama good, but he’s alright.
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I was thinking about Tommy Rees.
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MSU's QB and top returning WR are in the portal.
Just a bit more of an issue than the leading spring game WR, imo.
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MSU's QB and top returning WR are in the portal.
Just a bit more of an issue than the leading spring game WR, imo.
See the MSU thread. The WR is an issue. The QB is leaving because he lost the starting job
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Michigan State starting CB Charles Brantley in the portal.
What’s going on there?
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I thought one of the Dawg QBs would portal out, but not so far.
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Deadline to transfer was April 30. Schools have 48 hours or so to make the portal entry paperwork and file it.
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Michigan State starting CB Charles Brantley in the portal.
What’s going on there?
Got offers from Colorado and Oklahoma, and now withdrew from the portal to return to MSU, lol, who even knows anymore
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everybody got an offer from Colorado
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everybody got an offer from Colorado
There are like 45 dudes in Boulder who would like a word
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Purdue gets a commit from Ole Miss CB Braxton Myers.
Heavily recruited 4* out of HS (Texas). This a big time get for Purdue. The Boilers are doing well in the portal.
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Purdue is a team that catches my eye at times and I'll watch them play rather than most others. I try and watch UNC a bit because I went there but I get bored with them.
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I follow Mack Brown a bit
my brother tells me that Mack is a good fellow
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Sounds like Thorne is headed to Auburn.
Yikes.
Remember when Auburn ran off Bo Nix? Now they are going to try and grab a kid who wasn't happy he wasn't guaranteed a job out of spring, off a 5-7 season
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Did they run off Bo Nix? Huh, didn't know that. He had a decent season at Oregon after that first game.
Auburn is a hot mess it seems. Expectations and living with their two rivals doing well.
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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/05/138676/former-ohio-state-wide-receiver-kaleb-brown-transferring-to-iowa
Iowa getting a hell of a player.
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Iowa? The Iowa with Brian Ferentz? That Iowa?
WR don't transfer to Iowa.
They transfer from Iowa.
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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/05/138676/former-ohio-state-wide-receiver-kaleb-brown-transferring-to-iowa
Iowa getting a hell of a player.
This is big news for Iowa. Iowa's offense was a national punch line last year. To get a former 4* WR really can turn the whole narrative around.
I mean this was the Iowa offense where WR Charlie Jones only had 21 catches in 3 years, so Jones had to transfer to Purdue just so he could prove he should be drafted in NFL, which he was. Jones got drafted by the Bengals in the 4th round after an first team all big ten senior season at Purdue.
The perception everybody had was that no decent WR would ever want to come and play at Iowa. It's where WR's go for their careers to die. It makes you wonder what Kaleb Brown is thinking, or actually, what Iowa had to give up to get him.
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This is big news for Iowa. Iowa's offense was a national punch line last year. To get a former 4* WR really can turn the whole narrative around.
I mean this was the Iowa offense where WR Charlie Jones only had 21 catches in 3 years, so Jones had to transfer to Purdue just so he could prove he should be drafted in NFL, which he was. Jones got drafted by the Bengals in the 4th round after an first team all big ten senior season at Purdue.
The perception everybody had was that no decent WR would ever want to come and play at Iowa. It's where WR's go for their careers to die. It makes you wonder what Kaleb Brown is thinking, or actually, what Iowa had to give up to get him.
Yep.
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This is big news for Iowa. Iowa's offense was a national punch line last year. To get a former 4* WR really can turn the whole narrative around.
I mean this was the Iowa offense where WR Charlie Jones only had 21 catches in 3 years, so Jones had to transfer to Purdue just so he could prove he should be drafted in NFL, which he was. Jones got drafted by the Bengals in the 4th round after an first team all big ten senior season at Purdue.
The perception everybody had was that no decent WR would ever want to come and play at Iowa. It's where WR's go for their careers to die. It makes you wonder what Kaleb Brown is thinking, or actually, what Iowa had to give up to get him.
I actually think it is a smart move. The kid can play.
He is just behind some amazing WRs who are all NFL caliber. He had an excellent spring since most of the first stringers did not participate.
Iowa Now has cade McNamara as a quarterback, and he’s pretty damn accurate. Why not go somewhere where you know you will be a starting receiver and probably gonna be the go to outside guy, and show what you can do versus ride the bench for another year or maybe even two years.
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Also- see the last 2 WRs who transferred out of OSU.
Jamison Williams and Sam Wiglusz
( a walk on tutored by Brian Hartline)
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4385438/sam-wiglusz
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Kaleb will get playing time
he'll get snaps
how many targets and catches is the question
history with the life of Brian says, not many
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Kaleb Brown to Iowa was shocking to me. How many players willingly kill their own careers before they even begin?
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hey, he's the #1 WR as soon as he steps on campus
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former OSU WR Caleb Burton to Auburn. Sounds like former MSU WR Keon Coleman is visting or has visited Auburn as well and they are a top contender for him.
Former MSU QB Peyton Thorne has already transferred to Auburn.
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former Sparty WR Keon Coleman to Florida State. Jordan Travis has a nice toy to throw the ball to. That's a big time pick up for FSU. Could definitely see him blow up in that situation and play himself into the 1st or 2nd rd.
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Coleman is a freak. Flat out.
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Utah transfer Tyler Knaak, an offensive tackle with four years of remaining eligibility, announces his commitment to Nebraska.
He redshirted during the 2022 season and will have four years of eligibility left at Nebraska.
Knaak is the 12th transfer addition for the Huskers this offseason and the third offensive line addition out of the portal as he joins center Ben Scott (Arizona State) and offensive tackle Jacob Hood (Georgia).
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This is from Rivals. I like it.
UTSA (https://utsa.rivals.com/) is a very successful program, having won back-to-back conference championships. That success comes at a cost. Assistant coaches are getting poached left and right from coach Jeff Traylor’s program. Two years ago the team lost its offensive and defensive coordinators. Last offseason the co-offensive coordinators bolted.
Today’s college football world is different. It’s become more common for players of these programs to get poached by teams in the Power Five. Traylor explained his strategy for dealing with this at the Texas High School Coaches Association convention on Monday.
"I'm not just going to roll over and let them have my kids," Traylor said. "I'm going to say, 'Hey Sam, my kid came in here and screen-shotted you hitting him up. He's on my roster right now. What are you doing, Sam?' '"
This approach helped him keep seven of the eight players that were allegedly being poached by other schools. The one player that the team lost was wide receiver Zahkari Franklin (https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/zakhari-franklin-211241). He transferred to Ole Miss (https://olemiss.rivals.com/) after racking up 94 catches for 1,136 yards and 15 scores.
If more lower-tier coaches are this transparent and start naming names of coaches stealing players we might get some reform in the college football transfer rules. Good for Traylor for protecting what he’s built at UTSA.
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I like it as well.
The other side is a possibly better opportunity for the player.
If the player has NFL potential, I'd guess Ole Miss puts more kids in the draft than UTSA
now Coach Prime poaching kids from Ole Miss is a different situation
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The tampering has to go.
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yes, there should be rules
this is not Nam
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Indiana quarterback Brendan Sorsby has entered the transfer portal.
Sorsby has been a starter at Indiana for one season. In 2022, the redshirt freshman tallied 1,587 passing yards this season for 15 touchdowns while completing 57.2% of his pass attempts. Sorsby only appeared in one game in 2022, completing 3-of-his-6 passes for eight yards against Penn State.
Sorsby played high school football at Lake Dallas (Texas) where he was a three-star prospect. He was the No. 1,426 overall recruit in the 2022 cycle, according to the On3 Industry Ranking, a weighted average that utilizes all four major recruiting media companies.
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The one year sit out does not restrict players' movement or earning capacity any more than academic requirements or limiting kids to 4 years.
Leave NIL as is, and hell, completely remove all restrictions. Make it full pay to play. Who cares. But get rid of the transfer portal. Get rid of waivers. That would solve nearly all of the problems. You want to transfer, ok. Nobody is stopping you. You just have to sit out a year. I'd even be fine with counting that as a redshirt year, even if you've already redshirted. The transfer portal is what has completely killed my reason to care. I enjoy watching good football. But I don't care how MUS does. I don't know how any fan care how "their" school does anymore. You are either a feeder school, or a mercenary school. I remember a decade ago wondering why people were rooting for a worse version of the NFL. But this is now just a worse version of a less regulated NFL. MSU might go 9-3. They might go 3-9. Who cares? It's all the same amount of irrelevant. If we go 9-3, we'll lose our best players to a handful of schools; when we go 3-9, we'll poach some players from some other schools. MSU will have more roster movement than the Lions, and even the worst Lions team is better football than the best college team, so what are we rooting for. It's like being all in on a AAA baseball team.
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They should be a little more accepting of the idea of contracts, which have been a key part of civilization but only favored by the NCAA when it completely favored the schools. That said, all contracts should have an out where if the school fires the coach, all the players can transfer.
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or if the coach is found guilty of cheating
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or if the coach is found guilty of cheating
"found guilty" by whom? A court of law?
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the NCAA
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Well that's certainly a trustworthy and reliable body. What could possibly go wrong?
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certainly more trustworthy and reliable than many head coaches
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(https://i.imgur.com/gT7Agvq.jpg)
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certainly more trustworthy and reliable than many head coaches
(https://i.imgur.com/YCPyrko.png)
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certainly more trustworthy and reliable than many head coaches
Really? Do you think the NCAA has a deeper concern for the well-being of the players and their families than the money hounds of the NCAA?
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Really? Do you think the NCAA has a deeper concern for the well-being of the players and their families than the money hounds of the NCAA?
The NCAA is an organization of members. The Big Ten could pull out at any time if it wanted. Same goes for the SEC, XII, etc.
And I think they will - but not without a replacement organization.
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All 3 MSU QBs are now in the portal
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Dayum,Smith bringing his 6 shooter with him?You'd think one of them would say eff it I'll give it a shot
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Really? Do you think the NCAA has a deeper concern for the well-being of the players and their families than the money hounds of the NCAA?
HUH? used NCAA twice as a comparison
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HUH? used NCAA twice as a comparison
Sorry, i worded that like a fast typing clown. The lack of brain to finger control I think is what also Badge is trying to red flag as well. What I was trying to say is I believe coaches have a greater care and concern for the athletes and their families than the people that make up the NCAA. I was most specifically pointing out the board of governors and the executive committee, but my brain and fingers were seeing if I could throw slop into the message and test if you guys could decode that nonsense.
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Allow me to translate into English:
Really? Do you think the money hounds of the NCAA have a deeper concern for the well-being of the players and their families than the coaches of their teams?
Something like that, yes? ;)
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Allow me to translate into English:
Something like that, yes? ;)
Haha. I appreciate that. Mine was not the English version.
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Really? Do you think the NCAA has a deeper concern for the well-being of the players and their families than the money hounds of the NCAA?
many and most coaches seem to be money hounds that will leave the players at the drop of a hat filled with millions
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many and most coaches seem to be money hounds that will leave the players at the drop of a hat filled with millions
Also a very fair point.
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many and most coaches seem to be money hounds that will leave the players at the drop of a hat filled with millions
I know I would.
It's a business. I would have left my job for "millions" (aside from the situation with my kids).
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with enough millions, the kids and ex-wife can be happy
70 million can work wonders on moral
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with enough millions, the kids and ex-wife can be happy
70 million can work wonders on moral
Money and great healthcare and insurance can change everything. My wife proved that with incredible healthcare connections and great insurance last year. I've seen too many miserable wealthy people to be convinced money solves the rest, but not enough money certainly stings in many situations. My fear is that if I had 70 million, I might be a worthless person not contributing to the world and sitting on a beach all day.
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not speakin for anyone else...
I have 2 daughters and an ex-wife - with an opportunity at a job that paid 20 million, all 3 of them would have encouraged me to take the job.
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Sorry, i worded that like a fast typing clown. The lack of brain to finger control I think is what also Badge is trying to red flag as well. What I was trying to say is I believe coaches have a greater care and concern for the athletes and their families than the people that make up the NCAA.
Ya for sure the networks wonks and Universiy heads have whored them selves out.These additional games for the CFB PO won't necessarily give us the best teams.Just the ones that had less kids sit.Most of these kids with sunday aspirations will be sitting and I don't blame them.Adding more games benefits the fatcats not the kids who just face more chances of getting hurt.Hell Jaylen Smith and Jake Butt just 6-7 yrs ago both projected 1st rounders go out on stretchers during their last College Bowl games - just shameless greed for no real good reason except to line their own pockets
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Minnesota's backup QB just entered the portal. That's 4 QBs to leave here in as many years.
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Minnesota's backup QB just entered the portal. That's 4 QBs to leave here in as many years.
I think just about everyone is going to enter, just to keep options open, or see if they get NIL
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Money and great healthcare and insurance can change everything. My wife proved that with incredible healthcare connections and great insurance last year. I've seen too many miserable wealthy people to be convinced money solves the rest, but not enough money certainly stings in many situations. My fear is that if I had 70 million, I might be a worthless person not contributing to the world and sitting on a beach all day.
Money can't buy happiness. But it can buy a Golden Retriever. And, honestly, is there much difference?
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Money can't buy happiness. But it can buy a Golden Retriever. And, honestly, is there much difference?
If you allergic to animals like I am, yes, there is a difference.
People bring their dogs everywhere these days. Pisses me off to no end.
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I love GRs, but they shed like crazy. I enjoy petting them when they belong to someone else.
Dogs are great, we don't deserve them.
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never spent much time with Goldens
my ex-wife, kids, girlfriends always preferred smaller lap dogs
the ex did have a Samoyed and then a Siberian Huskey for a while
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If you allergic to animals like I am, yes, there is a difference.
People bring their dogs everywhere these days. Pisses me off to no end.
These gray hair old broads on the way to the beauty parlor with fuzzy little mutts bouncing around on their laps. I mean the wth they're women so they can't drive in the 1st place - they should be tasered
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you're gonna taser all the gray hair old broads???
what did your Granny do to you?
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Michigan has offered 6’4” 300 lb University of Pennsylvania DT Joey Slackman, along with Northwestern, Wisconsin, and a bunch of other schools.
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you're gonna taser all the gray hair old broads???
what did your Granny do to you?
Traumatized half the other driver's on the road,try keeping up.Maybe you didn't see it with a BUD in your face
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Money can't buy happiness. But it can buy a Golden Retriever. And, honestly, is there much difference?
Love that. I had an English Bulldog and he made it to a couple days before 11, which is old for that breed. He was by my side every day in bed after recover from brain surgery. The day he passed, the original breeder from Kansas had a litter down his line and let our family cut in line on the waiting list. They truly do bring happiness.
(https://i.imgur.com/9AyXSB5.jpg)
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Hasn’t even entered the transfer portal yet and ten programs are already after Washington State’s Cam Ward. The era of perpetual free agency is here to stay.
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1729698909440618951
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Minnesota's backup QB just entered the portal. That's 4 QBs to leave here in as many years.
Looks like a mass exodus up there. Barnum cleaning house, or are these kids just out on the program?
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Hasn’t even entered the transfer portal yet and ten programs are already after Washington State’s Cam Ward. The era of perpetual free agency is here to stay.
hopefully, UNL and Rhule are one of the Ten
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NIL like another poster mentioned college students getting bribe money
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same as Eric Dickerson getting a gold trans am
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https://twitter.com/Deshawn_pac3/status/1729605399844725134?s=20
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same as Eric Dickerson getting a gold trans am
Like I've said, if you want to throw silly money at 17 year olds, go for it. But the year to year free agency is what's killing it for me
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Here's the first one.
Dylan Barrett Enters Transfer Portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/dylan-barrett-wisconsin-badgers-football-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal-221743838/)
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same as Eric Dickerson getting a gold trans am
I had a gold '72 4 dr 250 6cl. NOVA hows that?
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if you got it from a michigan booster and then went to ohio st. it's as good as Dickerson!
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if you got it from a michigan booster and then went to ohio st. it's as good as Dickerson!
Oddly, he also got it from a Texas A&M booster.
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This is bonkers. If you are a high level college qb not grading out as a top 10 pick, it makes good financial sense to stay in college
Matt Rhule
"Make no mistake: a good quarterback in the portal costs $1 million to $1.5 million to $2 million right now. So just so we’re on the same page, right? Let’s make sure we all understand what’s happening. There are some teams that have $6-7 million players playing for them.”
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(https://i.imgur.com/JMJqFw7.png)
Not quite $1M though. In 1979, a brand new Trans Am would cost $6,700
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This is bonkers. If you are a high level college qb not grading out as a top 10 pick, it makes good financial sense to stay in college
Matt Rhule
"Make no mistake: a good quarterback in the portal costs $1 million to $1.5 million to $2 million right now. So just so we’re on the same page, right? Let’s make sure we all understand what’s happening. There are some teams that have $6-7 million players playing for them.”
Rhule wins every press conference
he's very honest and upfront
and delivers the message like a preacher at the pulpit
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Rhule wins every press conference
he's very honest and upfront
and delivers the message like a preacher at the pulpit
From what I’ve watched I’ve enjoyed his press conferences as well.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. There isn’t a cap with NIL. And boosters are more irrational with their $$ than NFL owners are.
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This is bonkers. If you are a high level college qb not grading out as a top 10 pick, it makes good financial sense to stay in college
Good.
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if you got it from a michigan booster and then went to ohio st. it's as good as Dickerson!
I don't know you anymore!!!
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take the Go Blue booster's bag of cash and then flip him the bird
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take the Go Blue booster's bag of cash and then flip him the bird
That's one thing about NIL that is more regulated than bags o' cash. They typically have specific performance clauses in them, mandating action by the athlete, and if those requirements aren't met, then the money does not transfer. Makes it much harder to walk off with A&M's Trans Am and drive it for three years at SMU.
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There are presently 47 FBS QBs in the transfer portal, which isn't even officially open yet. Lol.
I can't imagine giving a shit about this sport anymore. MSU football might as well be MSU bowling. I guess I hope they do well, but I honestly don't give 2 shits
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Hasn’t even entered the transfer portal yet and ten programs are already after Washington State’s Cam Ward. The era of perpetual free agency is here to stay.
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1729698909440618951
He’s from my high school. Probably the only Div I player we ever had.
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And started out at something called Incarnate Word.
With all the transfer portal players teams really relied on, I'd HATE to be a HC in 2023.
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Georgia negotiating to keep Carson Beck as his NFL draft stock continues to rise (dawgnation.com) (https://www.dawgnation.com/football/practice-report/carson-beck-nfl-draft-stock/3LA52NQWCBCZHN73QYBVFHYCTI/?fbclid=IwAR2I8RK4Ek1g1L3VAolo2CVKFpkSIBz3y4a8UTmt84LIeiu8OTIcOkvLOnI)
Talk of Beck landing a deal worth more than a million dollars is not at all surprising when one considers today’s college football landscape, where “a good quarterback in the portal costs $1 million $1.5 million, $2 million right now,” per Nebraska coach Matt Rhule. (https://twitter.com/swmckewonOWH/status/1729916439736328552)
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sources claimed that Caleb Williams had a deal approaching $4 million to play his final two seasons at USC, an offer UGA would not match as it also pursued him in the portal following the 2021 championship season.
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Number 2.
Myles Burkett enters transfer portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/badgers-former-qb-myles-burkett-enters-portal-wednesday-221776653/)
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Will we see a time when a CFB player makes more in CFB than the NFL?
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Will we see a time when a CFB player makes more in CFB than the NFL?
College football will blow up and die before that happens. It's already blowing up.
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Will we see a time when a CFB player makes more in CFB than the NFL?
Probably not as a full-time player with a full-time job. But definitely for fringe guys. That’s probably already the case.
Which is probably fine in a lot of cases.
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I'm against all of this portal stuff combined with NIL. It's killing the game.
I suppose we could just turn this into a cooking, in other news, and hobbies message board.
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I'm waiting for Prime's son to leave boulder for USC or someplace that will pay him $3 mill.
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former Clemson and now former Oregon State QB DJU to the portal....in back to back seasons. This shit getting ridiculous son....
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former Clemson and now former Oregon State QB DJU to the portal....in back to back seasons. This shit getting ridiculous son....
And the next MSU starting QB is...
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3 more today. Including Dante Moore
Up to 50 FBS quarterbacks
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https://twitter.com/CoachAtuaia/status/1730161026677805086
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This was CLEARLY not well thought out - yeah I know that is shocking. Shocking, I'll tell ya.
College football is dead in the water.
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https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1730341292750643658?t=qKGlPiDtDNM5X1EQuNd4qA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/CoachAtuaia/status/1730161026677805086
This is an awesome tweet. They've turned it into a system they are no longer student athletes, but simply minor league athletes wearing the uniform of a university. They broke the system.. So now how do you go backwards with these kids being paid? what a mess.
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3 more today. Including Dante Moore
Up to 50 FBS quarterbacks
Matt Rhule's press conference NIL QB quote went viral
2 million
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https://twitter.com/CoachAtuaia/status/1730161026677805086
That was great couldn't have described or worded it any better.For years I kept thinking Pro sports was unsustainable,but dumbasses keep ponying up
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former Clemson and now former Oregon State QB DJU to the portal....in back to back seasons. This shit getting ridiculous son....
What I find even worse than the Tate Martells out there are the multi-year guys who are the faces of their programs bolting.
Miss State's Will Rogers, Jefferson at Arkansas, McCall at Coastal Carolina.....all just saying, "I was your dude, and now I'm checking out."
What the hell?
Grad transfers used to just be fringe guys who wanted to simply find real playing time. Now it's your team MVP just moving on for money or for no goddamn reason at all.
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https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1730341292750643658?t=qKGlPiDtDNM5X1EQuNd4qA&s=19
read that and it sounded nothing more than pure speculation or guessing that MSU would be interested....well yeah, no shit they would be. my guess is MSU is getting DJU who just hit the portal and will probably be following his coach...
Moore was pretty bad....did not look like a 5* top 3 player or a guy that will come in and make an impact wherever he goes right away. BUT....true frosh on a bad team...so....who knows. because of his raw arm talent and his 'crootin' profile however....he is an obvious take. but he's no sure thing imo.
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What I find even worse than the Tate Martells out there are the multi-year guys who are the faces of their programs bolting.
Miss State's Will Rogers, Jefferson at Arkansas, McCall at Coastal Carolina.....all just saying, "I was your dude, and now I'm checking out."
What the hell?
Grad transfers used to just be fringe guys who wanted to simply find real playing time. Now it's your team MVP just moving on for money or for no goddamn reason at all.
Look at those three, and you will see a reason. Actually, a pretty interesting one.
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Too much drama with that kid.
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Too much drama with that kid.
(https://i.imgur.com/2LZMBxI.png)
was too much drama with him even back to his 'crootin days. super talented kid but too much baggage and crazy family and "handlers" looking for NIL $$$$$$$$.
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What I find even worse than the Tate Martells out there are the multi-year guys who are the faces of their programs bolting.
Miss State's Will Rogers, Jefferson at Arkansas, McCall at Coastal Carolina.....all just saying, "I was your dude, and now I'm checking out."
What the hell?
Grad transfers used to just be fringe guys who wanted to simply find real playing time. Now it's your team MVP just moving on for money or for no goddamn reason at all.
Will Howard at Kansas State.
Agreed, but if it's true that a top QB costs you $2 million, I guess I get it. Doesn't mean I have to like it, or continue to follow it
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was too much drama with him even back to his 'crootin days. super talented kid but too much baggage and crazy family and "handlers" looking for NIL $$$$$$$$.
Sounds like the NIL asking price is sky high. No thanks
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I expect some UGA QBs will transfer out especially if Carson Beck doesn't go pro (I expect he will).
They have two highly rated guys sitting on the bench and more coming in next year. I'm surprised they didn't move already really.
How Georgia's quarterback room is set up for the present, future - UGASports (rivals.com) (https://uga.rivals.com/news/how-georgia-s-quarterback-room-is-set-up-for-the-present-future?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKDeHBrrG9MLklDSIVAalLg6ri-3KxCu_LQ4b8uMISQqEpqVP0IcudevwCYmwNYiVAkOtz61p5OTzB6PkLkE-lEHf_--HV4SqacGr0wqLqqbMgWF86pczgOJuxXEEyfNtTo9P1g_nakYEdxvaepAnc6fSiuxW-qVB3LQ1wg2tPrf)
With a strong season, Beck could have the opportunity to move on to the NFL, leaving Vandagriff, Stockton, Raiola, and Puglisi – assuming they all stay – to battle for the starting job in 2024.
Beck has had a very strong season, better than anyone could have expected outside the team. He's probably a first rounder now.
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I'm not sure that $2M quarterbacks are sustainable. This is still the early days of NIL. There are inevitably going to be some busts, and when millionaire donors see their money falling to waste, they're going to re-think the ROI.
But for now, yes, as expected and as predicted-- Wild Wild West.
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I don't know if these donors expect any ROI on individuals, if they have any sense they know about busts. But you line up 2-3 very good QBs and one will probably work out.
It's like venture capital, you may have 9 busts and one win, and the win is 1000X.
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I don't know if these donors expect any ROI on individuals, if they have any sense they know about busts. But you line up 2-3 very good QBs and one will probably work out.
It's like venture capital, you may have 9 busts and one win, and the win is 1000X.
Yeah but I don't think ANY team is going to have donors willing to invest in an entire portfolio of QBs on the same roster at the same time. Kind of by nature, the process leaves you putting all your eggs in one basket.
And if that prospect is a bust, then that money is wasted. It's not going to take a whole lot of those before the entire circuit calms down.
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Grad transfers used to just be fringe guys who wanted to simply find real playing time. Now it's your team MVP just moving on for money or for no goddamn reason at all.
well, it's certainly not for no goddamn reason at all.
so, it's about the $$$
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Moore was pretty bad....did not look like a 5* top 3 player or a guy that will come in and make an impact wherever he goes right away. BUT....true frosh on a bad team...so....who knows. because of his raw arm talent and his 'crootin' profile however....he is an obvious take. but he's no sure thing imo.
1 million instead of 2?
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I'm not sure that $2M quarterbacks are sustainable. This is still the early days of NIL. There are inevitably going to be some busts, and when millionaire donors see their money falling to waste, they're going to re-think the ROI.
says the guy with some of the craziest and most millionaire donors
these donors have been giving millions per year for decades
now some of the money is just going to the NIL arm of the program instead of straight to the AD
it's very sustainable for the top 10-20 funded programs
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Yeah but I don't think ANY team is going to have donors willing to invest in an entire portfolio of QBs on the same roster at the same time. Kind of by nature, the process leaves you putting all your eggs in one basket.
And if that prospect is a bust, then that money is wasted. It's not going to take a whole lot of those before the entire circuit calms down.
I dunno... It seems that people who were already rolling out the Brinks trucks to donate LOTS of money to a football team with the only ROI being seeing their alma mater be successful in a game...
...might not be making these decisions on a purely economic basis.
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I fear the NIL thing will grow not shrink to sanity. If I'm a true billionaire, I'd invest millions in NIL for my team without much of a thought. Maybe I have five car dealerships anyway and hotels and restaurants in the area, maybe not.
Maybe a few of them get burned a bit and settle back some, to be replaced by more willing to throw money away.
I ponder myself how I used to fret of one dollar at times, and now it means nothing to me. Some of that is inflation, but most is my situation. My wife still makes fun of how often I buy stuff on sale at kroger. It's stuff we need anyway.
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https://twitter.com/CoachReedLive/status/1730417756502147377?t=-N3lZ61eK3Ec_slnW8hHdg&s=19
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I dunno... It seems that people who were already rolling out the Brinks trucks to donate LOTS of money to a football team with the only ROI being seeing their alma mater be successful in a game...
...might not be making these decisions on a purely economic basis.
Right, ROI is measured in winning championships. Keep spending $2M per year on QBs that fail to win championships, and the money will slow down.
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I fear the NIL thing will grow not shrink to sanity. If I'm a true billionaire, I'd invest millions in NIL for my team without much of a thought. Maybe I have five car dealerships anyway and hotels and restaurants in the area, maybe not.
Maybe a few of them get burned a bit and settle back some, to be replaced by more willing to throw money away.
I ponder myself how I used to fret of one dollar at times, and now it means nothing to me. Some of that is inflation, but most is my situation. My wife still makes fun of how often I buy stuff on sale at kroger. It's stuff we need anyway.
Billionaires have had the capability to do this for years, and they still don't. They spend their money how they choose. Michael Dell doesn't spend a dime on UT athletics, instead he builds state-of-the-art hospitals and creates medical research branches. Red McCombs gave $50M to the business school, and only a million here and there to the athletic department.
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Right, ROI is measured in winning championships. Keep spending $2M per year on QBs that fail to win championships, and the money will slow down.
On what timeline?
How much money have boosters given to Texas over the last 18 years (the amount of time since their last championship)? How much has that flow seemed to slow down between 2005 and now? Prior to that their last championship was 1970. 35 years without a natty and they were still one of the richest programs in CFB. Seems like the ROI hasn't been that great. One championship in the last 53 years, and that one is almost two decades stale.
You're right that the ROI is on-field success. But in some ways it's like buying a lotto ticket... I don't regularly buy lotto tickets, but when I do I'm buying a dream--until those numbers are drawn I *might* be a millionaire. And the important thing is that when I do it, I recognize that it's absolutely throwaway money that I can afford to lose buying that dream. I know it's a bad bet with nearly zero likelihood of payoff, but I'm willing to make that bet every once in a while because losing doesn't materially harm me but winning would.
I have to think a lot of the people that are throwing money into athletic donations or NIL collectives are not choosing between that and making their mortgage. It's throwaway money on a dream, that may take a decade or two to pay off, but culminates in cheering on their team as they win a national championship game.
It's done out of emotion rather than economic calculation. As long as they believe that it *can* pay off, they're living the dream that it will one day.
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fans stands for fanatic
not logic or ROI
Doesn't need to be billionaires, multi-millionaires will do nicely
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On what timeline?
How much money have boosters given to Texas over the last 18 years (the amount of time since their last championship)? How much has that flow seemed to slow down between 2005 and now?
Quite a bit, actually. It's taken tremendous effort from the new AD Chris del Conte, to build back up the support base.
I'm telling you these things because I know these things. :)
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Will Howard at Kansas State.
Agreed, but if it's true that a top QB costs you $2 million, I guess I get it. Doesn't mean I have to like it, or continue to follow it
So I think this is where stuff gets a little blended. We say "LOOK AT THE MONEY THEY MIGHT GET." And in some cases that's true. But in a lot, it's not, and in the case of the four QBs mentioned (Howard, Jefferson, McCall and Rogers), all have logical football reasons for leaving.
Howard is going into his fifth year on campus, and it seems he'd like to be secure as a starting QB, and he is not. His backup was pushing him hard all season. As long as it feels like he's been around, he's only been a full-time starter once in his career, and the vibe in Manhattan seems to be, there was a good chance he wouldn't be next season.
The other three are in cases where coaches left and they got shoehorned into so-so offenses.
McCall was a star for Jamey Chadwell. He's now in a Tim Beck offense. OSU and Nebraska fans could argue why you should take a pay cut to leave that. (He would've and maybe should've left last offseason, but he didn't really excel at the first part of student-athlete)
Rogers played in the Mike Leach Air Raid and starred. Then Leach died. He got a new head coach, a defensive guy in over his head, and had the scheme change to a pistol outside zone look where he was more of a play-action guy. It was a disaster. Now he's on OC and HC No. 3.
Jefferson when from a power version of the Bear Raid under the Briles kid to whatever kind of mess pro-style enthusiast Dan Enos went to. It too was bad. Now he has Bobby Petrino, whose scheme is also likely a bad fit.
Obviously some guys just out for a pay day. But a lot making moves for reasons that make some sense.
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Quite a bit, actually. It's taken tremendous effort from the new AD Chris del Conte, to build back up the support base.
I'm telling you these things because I know these things. :)
Got it. So as an outsider, educate me... What was the root cause of the reduction in flow?
Was it the lack of a championship since 2005? Was it issues with the AD/program/coaching that created a lack of confidence that it was being properly managed and so donors thought they were throwing good money after bad? I know there's been some unhappiness (just from listening to you) with the coaching selections...
Having never been one to donate to my own school's athletic dept or John Purdue Club, it's all a little bit Greek to me.
But I feel like the sort that do are purchasing a certain degree of hopium, and there's a steady supply of new fresh 5* talent every year on the block to sell it. I wonder how long it actually takes for the shine to wear off that no new doses of hopium hit the way they used to...
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Quite a bit, actually. It's taken tremendous effort from the new AD Chris del Conte, to build back up the support base.
I'm telling you these things because I know these things. :)
If I recall correctly, Deloss was a master fundraiser. Is that correct?
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If I recall correctly, Deloss was a master fundraiser. Is that correct?
he was a master at many things
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Apparently Leavitt has an offer from Nebraska that may be in the $900k-$1m range
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Rico Flores Jr., who was #2 on ND in receptions is in the portal.
It's honestly probably not even worth updating this with notable player names, because most notable players are going in
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Apparently Leavitt has an offer from Nebraska that may be in the $900k-$1m range
great news!
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Apparently Leavitt has an offer from Nebraska that may be in the $900k-$1m range
I thought that meant Jim Levitt and was like “oh that seems right”
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$1 million per punch
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And another. Didn't play much.
(https://i.imgur.com/lVH90la.png)
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Just ahead of the weekend, Husker coaches reportedly met with one of the top transfer portal players out there in former Kansas State quarterback Will Howard. Presumably, Rhule, as well as a few other members of the staff went out to visit Howard at his home so they could make their official pitch.
It’s worth pointing out that the Nebraska football team is making a move after originally being thought as a team that wouldn’t be a candidate for the #2 quarterback and #2 overall player in the portal this offseason.
It also feels like the Cornhuskers coaches don’t make that trip if they didn’t at least get some vibes that Howard is actually looking towards Lincoln. But that doesn’t mean it’s anything close to a done deal.
Nebraska football has stiff competition for Will Howard
Since the former Kansas State signal-caller announced he was transferring, USC, Wisconsin and Miami are among the teams said to be interested. It does help that none of those teams are really coming off great seasons.
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Wisconsin picks one up. Should be a good player in Madison.
Leon Lowery, Syracuse, Edge (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Leon-Lowery-46081801/)
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Kyle McCord off to the old portal.
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Probably not a fit in Madison, to be honest. Not mobile.
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Probably not a fit in Madison, to be honest. Not mobile.
I posted this in the OSU thread as well:
My opinion.
Somebody is going to get a very nice upgrade at quarterback. Possible destinations already mentioned that makes sense are:
Miami
Louisville
North Carolina state
Rutgers
Nebraska
Pitt
Kentucky
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Wish him well but you're being generous he's a good back up.But maybe a change of scenery was needed.Just really didn't adjust or be able to look ofs the primary receiver and still made ill advised throws. IMO tOSU made him look better,but good luck to him moving forward
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Wish him well but you're being generous he's a good back up.But maybe a change of scenery was needed.Just really didn't adjust or be able to look ofs the primary receiver and still made ill advised throws. IMO tOSU made him look better,but good luck to him moving forward
You are kidding yourself if you don’t think he will be in high demand.
not disagreeing that he wasn’t up to OSU history of recent QBs.
You go 11-1 at Ohio State against a pretty good schedule, which includes Big Ten teams like Penn State, Michigan, and out of conference games, like Notre Dame. you throw for 3171 yards with 26 touchdowns and only six interceptions while completing 66% of your passes- lots of schools would KILL to have that. Especially in a kid who would very likely to improve in his second year as a starter.
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Some crazy stuff in the portal.
Walter Nolan. Dillon Gabriel.
This is not your father’s NCAA
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This one stings.
(https://i.imgur.com/4xwqcfV.jpg)
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Another sting.
(https://i.imgur.com/kxcj0ro.jpg)
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You go 11-1 at Ohio State against a pretty good schedule, which includes Big Ten teams like Penn State, Michigan, and out of conference games, like Notre Dame. you throw for 3171 yards with 26 touchdowns and only six interceptions while completing 66% of your passes- lots of schools would KILL to have that. Especially in a kid who would very likely to improve in his second year as a starter.
It's tough to go by stats alone with McCord. He could be really solid, or he could be a bust. How many of his yards are marvin making incredible plays on the ball or his short crossing route where it's a 5 yard pass that Marvin took it 35 yards? With Marvin, Egbuka and Stover, he had some absolutely incredible targets and I don't see that being replicated anywhere else next year.
He had one of the biggest mistakes in the UM game, but he also lead a game winning drive against Notre Dame. Just tough to tell if he's a solid qb or the elite talent around him elevated his appearance.
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It's tough to go by stats alone with McCord. He could be really solid, or he could be a bust. How many of his yards are marvin making incredible plays on the ball or his short crossing route where it's a 5 yard pass that Marvin took it 35 yards? With Marvin, Egbuka and Stover, he had some absolutely incredible targets and I don't see that being replicated anywhere else next year.
He had one of the biggest mistakes in the UM game, but he also lead a game winning drive against Notre Dame. Just tough to tell if he's a solid qb or the elite talent around him elevated his appearance.
I'll add, game of inches. McCord's last pass as a Buckeye was of course intercepted to seal Michigan's win but Harrison was between two defenders with nobody between him and the end zone. If McCord gets that pass off a little quicker or if the O-line holds a fraction of a second longer, different legacy entirely.
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It's tough to go by stats alone with McCord. He could be really solid, or he could be a bust. How many of his yards are marvin making incredible plays on the ball or his short crossing route where it's a 5 yard pass that Marvin took it 35 yards? With Marvin, Egbuka and Stover, he had some absolutely incredible targets and I don't see that being replicated anywhere else next year.
He had one of the biggest mistakes in the UM game, but he also lead a game winning drive against Notre Dame. Just tough to tell if he's a solid qb or the elite talent around him elevated his appearance.
It appears that the coaching staff at Ohio State had some very brutally honest conversations with players yesterday and last night. I think McCord was one of them. A number of others today as well.
Ryan Day said in public that the quarterback competition was going to be open. Can’t blame him for that. McCord KNOWS he will have plenty of suitors.
I think nitpicking his stats is deceiving. You could do that with many quarterbacks, who just throw short passes to shifty receivers, who gained 20 yards after the catch. He will be in high demand, and my sense of it is it was McCord’s choice because he didn’t want to face competition, and because he has been brutally criticized by the insane fan base.
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Wish him well but you're being generous he's a good back up.But maybe a change of scenery was needed.Just really didn't adjust or be able to look ofs the primary receiver and still made ill advised throws. IMO tOSU made him look better,but good luck to him moving forward
not being good enough for a cfp team doesn't mean hes a career backup at even another p5 level team. take bama and tualia tagovailoa. he was obviously not up to the level bama had at that time (tua, bryce, mac) but he moved to maryland and this season led the b1g in passing yds, tds, 2nd in comp%. he owns the following maryland records (added last game by hand to these stats https://umterps.com/sports/football/roster/taulia-tagovailoa/11051 ):
- Career Passing Yards (11,256)
- Single Season Passing Yards (3,860 in 2021)
- Career Completions (955)
- Single Season Completions (328 in 2021)
- Career Completion Percentage (67.06%)
- Single Season Completion Percentage (69.2% in 2021)
- Career Passing Touchdowns (76)
- Single Season Touchdowns (26 in 2021, Tied with Scott Milanovich (1993))
- Career 300-Yard Passing Games (15)
- Single Season 300-Yard Passing Games (7 in 2021)
- Career Total Offense (11,463)
he is also the all time big ten leader in passing yards for a career with 11,256.
he wouldn't have seen the field at bama, but he became a legend and record holder at another program.
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https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1731702530948690030?s=20
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https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1731702530948690030?s=20
Good pickup!
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Not sure who he is going to throw to, or who will be blocking for him. Bretty sure the entire offense, except the RBs, went in the portal. But it's something.
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I think nitpicking his stats is deceiving. You could do that with many quarterbacks, who just throw short passes to shifty receivers, who gained 20 yards after the catch.
I'm not necessarily nitpicking the stats, but more pointing out the talent around him. Do you think there's another Marvin in college football? Or anyone close? From my seat, he's the best receiver in the last 10 years of college football. I'm just saying a 5 yard crossing route to Marvin is going to have a far different outcome than a 5 yard crossing route to Roman Wilson. Not a knock on Roman nor necessarily McCord. It also doesn't mean McCord cannot do more. I'm just curious how much that impacted his game.
To make a comparison, I wondered the same about Chad henne. Was Henne that good or did his numbers look that good because he consistently just threw the ball up and Braylon came down with a miracle catch. A long winded version of me just uncertain how high McCord's ceiling is because I'm confused if he's very talented or had the luxury of elite talent making plays to make him look better. I'm simply not sure.
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I'm not necessarily nitpicking the stats, but more pointing out the talent around him. Do you think there's another Marvin in college football? Or anyone close? From my seat, he's the best receiver in the last 10 years of college football. I'm just saying a 5 yard crossing route to Marvin is going to have a far different outcome than a 5 yard crossing route to Roman Wilson. Not a knock on Roman nor necessarily McCord. It also doesn't mean McCord cannot do more. I'm just curious how much that impacted his game.
To make a comparison, I wondered the same about Chad henne. Was Henne that good or did his numbers look that good because he consistently just threw the ball up and Braylon came down with a miracle catch. A long winded version of me just uncertain how high McCord's ceiling is because I'm confused if he's very talented or had the luxury of elite talent making plays to make him look better. I'm simply not sure.
Fair. No doubt having that kind of talent around him helped him. he did some good things. But he also missed some pretty wide-open receivers that he never even saw.
I guess it will be very interesting to see how he does at his next stop
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A long winded version of me just uncertain how high McCord's ceiling is because I'm confused if he's very talented or had the luxury of elite talent making plays to make him look better. I'm simply not sure.
I am - both.He had talent around him that really surpassed his.Kyle didn’t progress through the year, inconsitent in reads and throws and looked like he couldn’t get off the field fast enough. KM was overrated because of Marvin as a high school teammate. Been reading Kyle's dad has been in the coaches ear not sure if that's accurate or not. Very replaceable and he very well may be a diva or not.But IMO he sees the writing on the wall,position will be open in spring camp and he may think it shouldn't
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. KM was overrated because of Marvin as a high school teammate.
This was my question coming into the season. I saw some spring practice clips and I wondered if he was so highly talked about in HS because of Marvin. I've started to wonder the same about Allar if his success in HS was because of the system as the QB that replaced him is suddenly a superstar too.
As far as the drama part, it might be a blessing for him to leave for OSU. It can't be easy to go from a personality like CJ to a drama guy for fans nor coaches.
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Georgia quarterback Brock Vandagriff plans to enter transfer portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/article/georgia-quarterback-brock-vandagriff-plans-to-enter-transfer-portal-222298441/?fbclid=IwAR0cayzQQtrP8h1PpKXbRWRIt1Zibka3hGAn6m8QJrF6QS_XxKLqRpKmpk8)
This guy is pretty good, IMHO, mobile with a strong arm, good height, etc.
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Former Lincoln Southeast standout Jake Appleget is the first Nebraska football scholarship player to enter the transfer portal this offseason.
didn't make the depth chart
hope he finds an opportunity for playing time
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As much a Klatt was willing McCarthy back to Michigan, if Michigan is in on a QB who is apparently looking for close to $2 million, I'm guessing its not as a high end backup
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1731711694047433192?s=20
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Wisconsin picks one up. Should be a good player in Madison.
Leon Lowery, Syracuse, Edge (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/Leon-Lowery-46081801/)
Committed yesterday. Decommitted today.
This is so f'd up.
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Committed yesterday. Decommitted today.
This is so f'd up.
Bigger check came through.
For now its a one time transfer, and waivers are done. So maybe over time, some of these kids realize they shot their wad too soon. Granted then there will be social media pressure on the NCAA to grant a waiver, even though waivers are done, and they will cave.
This all goes away if you put the one year sit out rule back in, and get rid of waivers
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As much a Klatt was willing McCarthy back to Michigan, if Michigan is in on a QB who is apparently looking for close to $2 million, I'm guessing its not as a high end backup
https://twitter.com/247Sports/status/1731711694047433192?s=20
Dante Moore isn't going to Michigan. I'll believe it when I see it. Only reason Michigan is included on that list is he's from Detroit and his dad is a diehard Michigan fan.
Kid didn't give Michigan the time of day when he was a HS recruit and they went after his ass HARD. Believe he was the only QB they offered and recruited in '23.
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Specuation by expert highly placed insiders in the know close to the program are saying Carson Beck returns for another season.
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Specuation by expert highly placed insiders in the know close to the program are saying Carson Beck returns for another season.
He'll make more money by returning to Georgia than he would in the NFL, considering he's not a 1st round pick
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He'll make more money by returning to Georgia than he would in the NFL, considering he's not a 1st round pick
I think this is going to end up keeping more QBs, RBs and specialists around college longer. Maybe some other spots, but in a less pronounced way.
I’m mostly in favor of that externality.
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could force the NFL to pay 3rd round picks more $$$
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I think this is going to end up keeping more QBs, RBs and specialists around college longer. Maybe some other spots, but in a less pronounced way.
I’m mostly in favor of that externality.
RBs, I'm curious about. Because you are really risking that 2nd contract.
QBs, unless you are a top 5 pick, probably makes sense to stay, if you are a JJ McCarthy/Carson Beck, who is a solid starter at a contender., and a back end 1st round pick if you leave If you are a high riser at a mid or lower tier P5 program, probably makes sense to cash in
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I'd guess Beck stays another year and shoots for QB1 or 2.
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Caleb Williams has already said that he came back to SC because going to the NFL would have been a pay cut.
I would like to know how many players that enter the portal play another down of football at any level. I've seen upwards of half, but that's just rumor and innuendo.
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RBs, I'm curious about. Because you are really risking that 2nd contract.
QBs, unless you are a top 5 pick, probably makes sense to stay, if you are a JJ McCarthy/Carson Beck, who is a solid starter at a contender., and a back end 1st round pick if you leave If you are a high riser at a mid or lower tier P5 program, probably makes sense to cash in
on a similar note, i'm curious how this might effect bowl participation. having a kind of built in security net should injury happen. just a thought.
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on a similar note, i'm curious how this might effect bowl participation. having a kind of built in security net should injury happen. just a thought.
Has anyone opted out of a bowl, but then returned to school? I've asked before that if you are going to opt out of bowls, why aren't you opting out of the back half of the season once you have three or four losses? I used Kenneth Walker at the time. He played in MSUs last two games, once they were 8-2, and not in the CFP. But opted out of the Peach Bowl. If you are opting out of the Peach Bowl, why are you playing in those last two games, when all you are playing for is the chance to play in a NY6 game that you are opting out of? I'm fine with opting out, but why is the line where it is? Should every kid opt out once a team has 2 losses?
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Caleb Williams has already said that he came back to SC because going to the NFL would have been a pay cut.
I would like to know how many players that enter the portal play another down of football at any level. I've seen upwards of half, but that's just rumor and innuendo.
he came back to USC because he was not eligible for the draft....
And he's going to be the #1 pick. There is nowhere in this universe or any universe that being the #1 pick is a pay cut from college NIL money. Last draft #1 pick Bryce Young got a fully guaranteed 4-year, $38 million contract, of which $24 million was given to him up front in the form of a signing bonus. You're not getting that kind of money in college anywhere, I don't care who you are. And once you're in the NFL and a star in the NFL...the NIL/endorsement money dwarves any kind of money you can make in college. Patrick Mahomes for instance makes insane money on national endorsements, more than any college kid could dream of making.
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https://twitter.com/_ZachShaw/status/1731747345539240290?s=20
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I think EVERY quarterback is in the portal. OU's, OSU's, Wazzou, KSU, ORST, Miami's, Duke's, Miss State's.......
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RBs, I'm curious about. Because you are really risking that 2nd contract.
That's true, but the money is down so much and players are just that replaceable.
Like if you're top-5 type, sure. If you're a 5th rounder, an extra year of guaranteed six figures might be big.
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I would like to know how many players that enter the portal play another down of football at any level. I've seen upwards of half, but that's just rumor and innuendo.
This is a really underdiscussed aspect to the transfer portal - MANY players who enter the Portal are never solicitated to play for another school.
Lavar Arrington is one of the sport's only voices I've heard bring this point up - from his radio show last year:
"…the portal is further perpetuating the feeling of entitlement. In a lot of cases they’re delusional. College athletes are a little delusional…for all the big stories we see with the Caleb Williams and the Spencer Rattlers there are a whole bunch of other names that entered the transfer portal and are sitting at home right now on their coach. Or going to a junior college because no one picked them up. We’re not hearing about the horror stories yet. We haven’t seen anybody addicted to pain killers yet, attributed to sitting and home and not getting another opportunity. There’s a very dark side to this transfer portal. While I will agree the NIL is not the direct problem to all of this, I will say having this whole transfer portal and being able to leverage the NIL to get the kids you want into the transfer portal is quickly becoming the issue that’s coming to a head as an issue that’s possibly monitored and regulated because there’s no slowing this freight train down."
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^^^
Great post Cat.
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Iowa quarterback Joey Labas has entered his name into the NCAA Transfer Portal, per reports from On3 Sports.
Labas just finished his sophomore season with the Hawkeyes after joining the program as a four-star recruit in 2021.
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Iowa quarterback Joey Labas has entered his name into the NCAA Transfer Portal, per reports from On3 Sports.
Labas just finished his sophomore season with the Hawkeyes after joining the program as a four-star recruit in 2021.
If he could not crack the staring lineup at Iowa, chances are that he is a bust.
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If he could not crack the staring lineup at Iowa, chances are that he is a bust.
I feel like I am seeing that in a lot of transfer situations.
” if the guy wasn’t playing considering the situation at that position, you shouldn’t care.“
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I feel like I am seeing that in a lot of transfer situations.
” if the guy wasn’t playing considering the situation at that position, you shouldn’t care.“
Chase Wolf... might have been useful in Madison this season. He's still in the portal.
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If he could not crack the staring lineup at Iowa, chances are that he is a bust.
Chase Wolf... might have been useful in Madison this season. He's still in the portal.
two guys that might be able to start in Lincoln next fall
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Nebraska quarterback Jeff Sims is expected to enter the transfer portal, per a report by 247Sports' Chris Hummer.
Sims’ time at Nebraska ends after a trying season between the lines, bogged down by turnovers and an injury against Colorado in the second game of the season. While he did pop back in a key moment again against Maryland, turnover troubles again loomed. He didn't regain the form many hoped he’d show when he transferred to Nebraska last season from Georgia Tech.
The 6-foot-4, 220-pound junior played in five games with two starts for the Huskers this season, going 28-of-47 through the air for 282 yards and one touchdown. Sims also added 42 rushes for 189 yards with one touchdown. He worked hard in the offseason, doing mental exercises at night to learn all the names on Nebraska's massive roster. And his practice and leadership efforts impressed enough that teammates voted him a single-digit jersey recipient heading into the 2023 season.
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I feel like I am seeing that in a lot of transfer situations.
” if the guy wasn’t playing considering the situation at that position, you shouldn’t care.“
A few weeks ago, a few husker fans and I were hanging out, watching some games and talked about this situation. How to determine if a guy on the bench is a bust or just behind a great player and they'd be good on most teams. I ended up with the conclusion that looking at kids in non-P5 (even FCS) schools that make plays and stand out was the best approach for places that have $$$ to spend, but not on Texas, Bama or OSU's level. Sucks for those schools who developed the kids, but his is modern CF.
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Florida's best pass-rusher and best offensive player enter the portal.
Cool.
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Committed yesterday. Decommitted today.
This is so f'd up.
And now committed again.
These last 48 hours have been a whirlwind. After thinking long and hard about my future, it became clear to me what was really important. I’ve had great discussions with my coaches and family.. There’s not a better fit for me and my future than in Madison, Wisconsin! I’m shutting down my recruitment & will not take any more visits. I’m a Badger! On, Wisconsin.
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Another one out.
Wisconsin Football: Badgers freshman edge rusher to transfer - Bucky's 5th Quarter (buckys5thquarter.com) (https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/wisconsin-badgers-football/2023/12/7/23992667/wisconsin-badgers-freshman-edge-rush-jordan-mayer-transfer-luke-fickell-matt-mitchell-braelon-allen)
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If he could not crack the staring lineup at Iowa, chances are that he is a bust.
Never know probably,but with crap Capt Kirk forced on his team with Brian at the helm. I'm not certain that was in the best interests of the kids who committed to play there. And some guys named Johnny Unitas and Kurt Warner kicked around a little before getting their gigs
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Florida's best pass-rusher and best offensive player enter the portal.
Cool.
Blows but as entropy stated this is modern CFB.Coaches were able to pack and portal for yrs,it should be a one time arrangement then the player sits IMO
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Ags are struggling during this coaching change, losing a ton to the portal already. And now THIS:
(https://i.imgur.com/qMv7WEm.png)
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I refuse to follow the portal or our part in it. I resigned myself months ago to the fact there's going to be kids whose names I learned that I'll wonder where they are, and kids who I've never heard of and don't know where they came from who may be on the field. I barely still have the energy to keep up with our high-school signees....and really, why bother? A chunk of them will probably portal out in a year or two.
Yeah, I think I'm definitely starting to enter DGAF territory. Can't tell if it's because of the state of the game or if I'm just turning into an old fart and it would've happened anyway.
I surmise from the titles and thumbnails of suggested videos from YouTube that the Aggies are losing a lot of players to the portal. Guess that's not surprising. Why YouTube thinks I care about that, I have no idea. I keep X'ing them off which should teach the algorithm that I don't care and to stop showing me stuff like that, but the algorithms wander about where they will, for reasons we know not.
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Is the amount of activity the Buckeyes are seeing in the portal normal? I'm hearing both sides from my family and friends. A few buddies are on the edge freaking out about the amount of guys that have entered the portal and I have some on the other side saying it's completely normal.
Secondly, does entering the portal guarantee someone is leaving or can players put their feelers out there and then return to the team? Are they actually accepted back if that happens? Man I hate this system.
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they can return to the team
many times the coaching staff and team don't want them back if they're having those types of thoughts
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Is the amount of activity the Buckeyes are seeing in the portal normal? I'm hearing both sides from my family and friends. A few buddies are on the edge freaking out about the amount of guys that have entered the portal and I have some on the other side saying it's completely normal.
Secondly, does entering the portal guarantee someone is leaving or can players put their feelers out there and then return to the team? Are they actually accepted back if that happens? Man I hate this system.
I'm not the best person to answer this because frankly, I'm rapidly entering the DGAF territory as described above by @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) .
The portal is so hard to figure out. Every time I hear a guy is transferring out from here or there my first thought is: Are they losing a quality projected starter or just losing a guy who never would have seen the field anyway?
It is hard enough for me to keep track of that vis-a-vis Ohio State so I just blanket refuse to do it vis-a-vis other teams.
WRT Ohio State. I definitely think that the volume of transfers is unusually high but it isn't altogether clear to me if it is insanely high or just a little above what is or soon will be the "new normal".
Then there is another issue. In theory this volume of transfers could be indicative of SERIOUS problems. If guys are leaving because there are locker room issues or something, yeah that is bad. OTOH, it could be a good thing. Maybe Day and the staff needed roster space so they sat down with a bunch of guys and basically said "Look we appreciate your contributions but you are unlikely to ever get much PT here so if you want to play, we recommend that you look elsewhere." I'm not fundamentally a fan of that concept. I used to hate it when certain schools would oversign then run guys off and this feels a lot like that. However, in the portal era that is the "new normal" so whether I like it or not the choices for Ohio State are to either embrace it or cease to be a NC Contender.
I'm a bit like MDT. I just don't have the time, energy, or motivation to research every transfer out, the various rumored targets and transfers in, etc. I think I'll pretty much wait until next year and see what the finished product looks like. Only THEN will we actually know if Day* got it right.
*Day here for Ohio State, but, IMHO, this same logic applies everywhere so you can literally substitute any coach and say the same thing.
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I refuse to follow the portal or our part in it. I resigned myself months ago to the fact there's going to be kids whose names I learned that I'll wonder where they are, and kids who I've never heard of and don't know where they came from who may be on the field. I barely still have the energy to keep up with our high-school signees....and really, why bother? A chunk of them will probably portal out in a year or two.
I'm not the best person to answer this because frankly, I'm rapidly entering the DGAF territory as described above by @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) .
👍 Ya pretty much the route I took a few yrs back,not hanging on the word of some kid who wouldn't sniff a University classroom other wise. As he tells social media that a blue blood is being considered to be in his top 10.And 3yrs later he's starting classes at local CC or is stocking at the grocery
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they can return to the team
many times the coaching staff and team don't want them back if they're having those types of thoughts
Are you sure this is still true?
In the old (like two years ago) days sure. Transfers were rare so who would want a guy back after he transferred. Now transfers are an everyday thing. Guys do it for PT. Guys do it for NIL. Whatever. I don't see it as "disloyal" anymore so if some tOSU backup enters the portal and doesn't get the interest he thought he would, I'd think that we'd want to welcome him back as depth.
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👍 Ya pretty much the route I took a few yrs back,not hanging on the word of some kid who wouldn't sniff a University classroom other wise. As he tells social media that a blue blood is being considered to be in his top 10.And 3yrs later he's starting classes at local CC or is stocking at the grocery
you only worry about kids that are intellects?
racist!
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Are you sure this is still true?
In the old (like two years ago) days sure. Transfers were rare so who would want a guy back after he transferred. Now transfers are an everyday thing. Guys do it for PT. Guys do it for NIL. Whatever. I don't see it as "disloyal" anymore so if some tOSU backup enters the portal and doesn't get the interest he thought he would, I'd think that we'd want to welcome him back as depth.
well, it depends on the player and the coach and the depth at the position
I'd question his commitment to the program
I'd want to talk to him to try to figure out what's in his head
If it's a question of playing time and he's a long shot to be a starter, I'd encourage the kid to find a better place.
I'd hope the coach would be thinking about the best interests of the kid
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you only worry about kids that are intellects?
racist!
Ya that's me,busted - it's just that some kids are so over the top full of themselves never thinking things could go south/not work out.Literally many times have seen kids say bama/tosu/um etc "you're in my top 10-11-12". Crappy parenting or just needing some humble pie
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well, it depends on the player and the coach and the depth at the position
I'd question his commitment to the program
I'd want to talk to him to try to figure out what's in his head
Depends on what? - Racist :098:
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More thoughts on the portal:
Years ago I stopped following recruiting on an individual basis. I learned this after watching a few 5* can't miss, next great tOSU recruits turn to nothing while watching a few 3* also-ran, why did we bother to recruit this guy recruits turn to All Americans. That said, I still strongly maintain that the average 5* is MUCH better than the average 3*. Consequently, my view of recruiting for the last 15-20 years has been to ignore the individuals and just look at the overall classes. This works pretty well because while an individual 3* may be better than an individual 5*, a class full of 3*'s is never going to be better than a class full of 5*.
Have the recruiting services upgraded to re-rating the transfers or are they still using the HS rankings?
Example, consider two situations:
- Lets say some 5* recruit went to tOSU, couldn't beat out the competition, got passed by underclassmen on the depth chart, and transfers out to (I'll pick on @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) ) Purdue. He should NOT be viewed as a 5* when transferring. That was his original rating but he hasn't lived up to it so he should be re-rated.
- Conversely, lets say that some 3* unheralded no-name guy goes to Purdue, plays a few years, is a massive star, and transfers out to Ohio State. He should not be viewed as a 3* when transferring. He has far exceeded his original rating so he should be re-rated.
AFAIK, the recruiting services were still treating #1 as a 5* and #2 as a 3* but, IMHO, it should be the reverse. Have any of the recruiting services figured that out and adjusted accordingly?
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I can comment on the Ohio State transfer portal numbers.
Just about every major team has to have a purge due to the extra eligibility from the Covid season. Even with 13 players in the portal Ohio State will still be 8 to 1010 scholarships over the limit.
Alabama went through this purge last year with 20 transfer portals.
if you look at who is going into the portal, they actually all make sense with the possible exception of McCord, but we know why he left.
Julian Fleming has one year of eligibility left. he was the number one receiver in his class, but never lived up to the hype due to a recurring shoulder injury.
While he was a starter for Ohio State. He was primarily a great downfield blocker. One year of eligibility and wants to go somewhere where He’s going to be the go to receiver. That’s the only way his draft stock will improve, and he knows he’s not going to be the go to receiver at Ohio State. They have multiple receivers on their roster that are already better than him.
All the rest of the players, like with most guys in the transfer portal, are third year guys with one or two years of eligibility left and have been passed on the depth chart already with highly recruited guys- with more recruits coming in to fill those positions.
Look at University of Michigan for an example. How many players are are they going to lose after this season just because they have ran out of eligibility?
Somewhere between 40 and 45 players.
It’s pretty clear to me that the coaching staff at Ohio State had some very honest conversations with people about where they stand in the pecking order.
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I will add that we need to remember, the portal giveth and the portal taketh away.
I am sure that Ohio State plans to bring in anywhere between four and 10 transfer portal players. Between that and the new recruiting class they’re going to be way over
so as an example, if Henderson stays at running back, and they have Hayden waiting in the wings to be “the man“
And they have three really good running backs committed, they are fine at running back. if Henderson decides to go for the draft, there are some pretty good running backs in the portal that would love to play in Columbus
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I can comment on the Ohio State transfer portal numbers.
Just about every major team has to have a purge due to the extra eligibility from the Covid season. Even with 13 players in the portal Ohio State will still be 8 to 1010 scholarships over the limit.
Alabama went through this purge last year with 20 transfer portals.
if you look at who is going into the portal, they actually all make sense with the possible exception of McCord, but we know why he left.
Julian Fleming has one year of eligibility left. he was the number one receiver in his class, but never lived up to the hype due to a recurring shoulder injury.
While he was a starter for Ohio State. He was primarily a great downfield blocker. One year of eligibility and wants to go somewhere where He’s going to be the go to receiver. That’s the only way his draft stock will improve, and he knows he’s not going to be the go to receiver at Ohio State. They have multiple receivers on their roster that are already better than him.
All the rest of the players, like with most guys in the transfer portal, are third year guys with one or two years of eligibility left and have been passed on the depth chart already with highly recruited guys- with more recruits coming in to fill those positions.
Look at University of Michigan for an example. How many players are are they going to lose after this season just because they have ran out of eligibility?
Somewhere between 40 and 45 players.
It’s pretty clear to me that the coaching staff at Ohio State had some very honest conversations with people about where they stand in the pecking order.
Yeah for a team like Ohio State or Alabama or Georgia, the only time to be concerned about the portal, is if you see star players and other important starters, in it. When it's backups and "depth" guys, well, that will absolutely become the norm, going forward.
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Julian Fleming has one year of eligibility left. he was the number one receiver in his class, but never lived up to the hype due to a recurring shoulder injury.
While he was a starter for Ohio State. He was primarily a great downfield blocker. One year of eligibility and wants to go somewhere where He’s going to be the go to receiver. That’s the only way his draft stock will improve, and he knows he’s not going to be the go to receiver at Ohio State. They have multiple receivers on their roster that are already better than him.
See this is the one that throws me off. Although I understand the thought process, what is the success rate of newbie receivers that haven't really been on the field yet? It's one thing if Marvin stays and that's who he's fighting for, but who will be his true competition? Tate?
I would think if anything, it's one of the best opportunities to be the next great thing for a team based on the opportunity. Unless Day and staff came out and blatantly said you're going to be lower on the depth chart, but I have zero idea how they could possibly say that without proof on the field.
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See this is the one that throws me off. Although I understand the thought process, what is the success rate of newbie receivers that haven't really been on the field yet? It's one thing if Marvin stays and that's who he's fighting for, but who will be his true competition? Tate?
I would think if anything, it's one of the best opportunities to be the next great thing for a team based on the opportunity. Unless Day and staff came out and blatantly said you're going to be lower on the depth chart, but I have zero idea how they could possibly say that without proof on the field.
I just think after four years in the program, if he was gonna be a Dude he would have been one by now. He's always gotten playing time when he wasn't injured but never really showed a ton. Egbuka was hurt a lot last season and he was the #2 and still finished with only 26 catches for 270 yards and 0 touchdowns. His best game was probably the Michigan game, solely because he was credited with a catch and fumble. A change in scenery makes a lot of sense.
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I just think after four years in the program, if he was gonna be a Dude he would have been one by now. He's always gotten playing time when he wasn't injured but never really showed a ton. Egbuka was hurt a lot last season and he was the #2 and still finished with only 26 catches for 270 yards and 0 touchdowns. His best game was probably the Michigan game, solely because he was credited with a catch and fumble. A change in scenery makes a lot of sense.
In fairness, he competed with Egbuka, Marvin, Olave, Wilson & Smith-njigba and I'd take any single one of them on my NFL team.
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In fairness, he competed with Egbuka, Marvin, Olave, Wilson & Smith-njigba and I'd take any single one of them on my NFL team.
I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.
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I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.
I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.
If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker. If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?
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I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.
If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker. If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?
It would not be the incoming freshman He would need to worry about. ( with the possible exception of Jeremiah Smith).
you have Carnell Tate and Brandon Iniss ready to explode. You also have Noah Rogers, Bryson Rodger’s, Kojo Antwi and Kyion Grayes-All reported to be ready to go after a couple seasons under Hartline. And that’s after Burton transferred to Auburn and Brown to Iowa this last year.
They say the fastest one of all of them is Jayden Ballard. he is a part returner and has played sparingly at wide receiver and mop up duty, but he already has the NFL’s attention in a big way after being at all of CJ Strouds, NFL workouts
Fleming was a prized recruit for Penn State. If he went there, as just one example, he would be an immediate on the field impact maker, and may there go to Guy. As he sits right now, because of his shoulder injury, he hasn’t caught that many passes and he wants to upgrade his NFL stock. he’s probably smart to try to do that somewhere else where he’s going to be the man.
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I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.
If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker. If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?
I do see where you are coming from. I actually asked roughly the same question about him because my initial thought was that with the expected departures of Harrison and Egbuka he should move up to WR1, why leave?
That said, I think that we should think about the mentality of most of these guys. To their defense, it has to be a MAJOR mental adjustment to go from being THE MAN in HS and basically your entire football-playing life to getting on campus and finding out that you are not only not the greatest player the staff has ever seen, you aren't even the best at your own position on the current roster and you aren't even good enough to start or possibly even play as a freshman.
Imagine yourself in that situation. You are a WR for a HS team and you just DOMINATE the opposing DB's that try to cover you. You are THE STAR of your team. Moreover, it has ALWAYS been this way for you. You've been THAT GUY ever since you first tried on pads. Then during Fall Camp your position coach calls you into his office to tell you that they plan to redshirt you. I'm sure he would try to put it as nicely as possible but the underlying message is: "You aren't good enough to contribute to this team." I think that would be devastating for a lot of guys.
I think it makes more sense when you think about that mentality. Now you have spent years at Ohio State toiling behind Olave, JSN, Marv, Egbuka and there is no guarantee that both Marv and Egbuka will leave (probably but from Fleming's perspective he may not 100% know that) nor is there any guarantee that you'll beat out Tate and the Freshman for WR1 nor even WR2.
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I do see where you are coming from. I actually asked roughly the same question about him because my initial thought was that with the expected departures of Harrison and Egbuka he should move up to WR1, why leave?
That said, I think that we should think about the mentality of most of these guys. To their defense, it has to be a MAJOR mental adjustment to go from being THE MAN in HS and basically your entire football-playing life to getting on campus and finding out that you are not only not the greatest player the staff has ever seen, you aren't even the best at your own position on the current roster and you aren't even good enough to start or possibly even play as a freshman.
Imagine yourself in that situation. You are a WR for a HS team and you just DOMINATE the opposing DB's that try to cover you. You are THE STAR of your team. Moreover, it has ALWAYS been this way for you. You've been THAT GUY ever since you first tried on pads. Then during Fall Camp your position coach calls you into his office to tell you that they plan to redshirt you. I'm sure he would try to put it as nicely as possible but the underlying message is: "You aren't good enough to contribute to this team." I think that would be devastating for a lot of guys.
I think it makes more sense when you think about that mentality. Now you have spent years at Ohio State toiling behind Olave, JSN, Marv, Egbuka and there is no guarantee that both Marv and Egbuka will leave (probably but from Fleming's perspective he may not 100% know that) nor is there any guarantee that you'll beat out Tate and the Freshman for WR1 nor even WR2.
He starts because he is a ferocious blocker and a reliable pass catcher. There are better pass catchers and route runners behind him. It’s really pretty simple.
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I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.
The best throw/catch I saw Brown make(this season) was to Tate,just in the front corner of the endzone.That sold me on him getting more snaps as the season progressed .Nice placement by Brown and Tate keeping his feet in and making the snag
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He starts because he is a ferocious blocker and a reliable pass catcher. There are better pass catchers and route runners behind him. It’s really pretty simple.
Or because he has more yrs than Tate it seems Day did that to Hayden also,make the effing grab or next man up
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Or because he has more yrs than Tate it seems Day did that to Hayden also,make the effing grab or next man up
Tate needs a lot of work on his blocking
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Tate needs a lot of work on his blocking
Perhaps but that would be after the fact when the other so called receivers aren't hanging onto the rock you don't have to block.Let Tate catch the fooking thing and the other guys can work on the blocking - problem solved ;D .EE had some slippery fingers also the last few games of the season
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This one hurts. Played in every game this season.
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This one hurts. Played in every game this season.
(https://i.imgur.com/2nxNYf4.png)
Depth counts never know when your number is going to get called,maybe tOSU could use him,perhaps the 'Skers
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Ball Sack 'Skers,Really?I mean that just shouts journalistic integrity
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Depth counts never know when your number is going to get called,maybe tOSU could use him,perhaps the 'Skers
The coach who let him start games in 2022 is the OL coach at IU. I'm guessing he'll go there. Bostad has put a lot of OL in the NFL.
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Ball Sack 'Skers,Really?I mean that just shouts journalistic integrity
not on FB yet
might not be true
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Dillon Gabriel transferring to Oregon?
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Former #GeorgiaTech and #Nebraska QB Jeff Sims has committed to #miamihurricanes …He is expected to be the QB1
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As the old saying goes, "sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better."
Michigan State's football roster has been gutted by transfer portal departures since the end of the 2023 season. It's a necessary part of MSU's transition out of the Mel Tucker era and into a new regime under Jonathan Smith. On Saturday, three more former Spartans elected to finish their careers elsewhere — defensive end Khris Bogle, defensive tackle Dre Butler and walk-on wide receiver Sebastian Brown.
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Do I have this right? 3 of the 4 Heisman finalists are MOT at their original schools?
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Correct.
And Gabriel to Oregon makes that his 3rd school he'll be starting and being productive at. Sims' 3rd. It's a joke.
National signing day has never been less important. Why get a great class, only for much of it to contrbute to other programs down the road?
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will be interesting to see how good McCord really is without Ryan Day calling the plays and throwing the football to Marvin Harrison Jr & Emeka Ebugka and handing it off to Trey Henderson. Rhule is a dunce in comparison to Day (who is an offensive wizard of sorts) and Nebraska doesn't have a single skill player remotely in that universe. Grass isn't always greener, young man.
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agreed, but rumor is $1.8 million in NIL
that's a lot of green
especially for a kid that might not make the NFL
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agreed, but rumor is $1.8 million in NIL
that's a lot of green
especially for a kid that might not make the NFL
Especially for a kid who might not see the green grass field at OSU if he spends a year riding the pine.
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Many felt that there should have been a rotation,Kyle was 3 yrs in and just seemed to pressure himself even when there was none from the opponent
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stark difference in the 2 programs
I and most Husker fans are hoping McCord and Fleming are a package deal
Bucknuts are hoping for an upgrade and get to undefeated and beating Michigan
Fuskers are hoping for an upgrade and a 9 win season
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stark difference in the 2 programs
I and most Husker fans are hoping McCord and Fleming are a package deal
Bucknuts are hoping for an upgrade and get to undefeated and beating Michigan
Fuskers are hoping for an upgrade and a 9 win season
Start with 6 at least. Been a while. Almost got there this year.
If you want 9, ya gotta get to 6 first. Bowl game.
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well, the plan is obvious, get to #6 by the 9th game and then win out over Maryland, Wisconsin, and Iowa
not much of a stretch if ya find a QB and WR
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Start with 6 at least. Been a while. Almost got there this year.
If you want 9, ya gotta get to 6 first. Bowl game.
MNMA
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man, that's an awesome shirt but, I'm not forking out $32
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Michigan sophomore RB CJ Stokes hits the portal. really fast kid but had serious fumbling issues last year as a true frosh, and barely saw the field this year with Blake Corum, Donovan Edwards, and Kalel Mullings all ahead of him. He was pretty much passed over as well by true frosh Ben Hall who was an early enrollee and the buzz of spring ball reports and validated that buzz a little bit by showing out in the spring game.
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Huskers have enough fumblers
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Michigan sophomore RB CJ Stokes hits the portal. really fast kid but had serious fumbling issues last year as a true frosh, and barely saw the field this year with Blake Corum, Donovan Edwards, and Kalel Mullings all ahead of him. He was pretty much passed over as well by true frosh Ben Hall who was an early enrollee and the buzz of spring ball reports and validated that buzz a little bit by showing out in the spring game.
sounds like a perfect husker football player
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Wolverines should give him another look
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Michigan sophomore RB CJ Stokes hits the portal. really fast kid but had serious fumbling issues last year as a true frosh, and barely saw the field this year with Blake Corum, Donovan Edwards, and Kalel Mullings all ahead of him. He was pretty much passed over as well by true frosh Ben Hall who was an early enrollee and the buzz of spring ball reports and validated that buzz a little bit by showing out in the spring game.
C.J. had one fumble in 2022 in the Maryland game as a freshman and no other since. Don't think I would call that "serious fumbling issues."
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+ Van Dyke. That's....interesting UW.
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Has anyone seen Van Dyke in the same room at the same time as Mertz? lol
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+ Van Dyke. That's....interesting UW.
BREAKING: QB Tyler Van Dyke Commits to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/badgers-football-major-commit-qb-tyler-van-dyke-222954820/)
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Another outgoing.
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+ Van Dyke. That's....interesting UW.
Yeah, don't get that one, assuming he's coming in as a starter
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Another outgoing.
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Apparently MSU is VERY interested in him
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Yeah, don't get that one, assuming he's coming in as a starter
He will be the starter.
Very good player before Cristobal got there. And we've seen what Justin Herbert can do without Cristobal.
There is reason for optimism here.
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Apparently MSU is VERY interested in him
Was suspended for a time last summer and reinstated. Two separate incidents violating athletic code of conduct.
I think he got past that. He will be a good player in the right system. I thought he played well this past season, TBH.
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Big need. Any insight from @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) on this one?
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Big need. Any insight from @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) on this one?
None. I don't know who that is, but then I don't follow recruiting like I used to.
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QB Kurtis Rourke from Ohio U. has committed to IU. Should be a solid pickup. He was really good two years ago but regressed a bit last year after an ACL injury in November of 2022.
WR Donaven McCully confirmed he will return to IU as will starting LT Carter Smith, who was really solid as a RS freshman this year. Apparently some big NIL money was thrown at both of these guys from some pretty big programs but they've chosen to stay at IU. That's a positive not only because they are talented and staying but it also indicates that IU's NIL is working.
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And this is where we are now. Any thoughts here, @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) ? True or false?
Minnesota football rumored to be paying $30,000 for QB to play in bowl game (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/minnesota-football-rumored-to-be-paying-30000-for-qb-to-play-in-bowl-game)
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QB Kurtis Rourke from Ohio U. has committed to IU. Should be a solid pickup. He was really good two years ago but regressed a bit last year after an ACL injury in November of 2022.
WR Donaven McCully confirmed he will return to IU as will starting LT Carter Smith, who was really solid as a RS freshman this year. Apparently some big NIL money was thrown at both of these guys from some pretty big programs but they've chosen to stay at IU. That's a positive not only because they are talented and staying but it also indicates that IU's NIL is working.
Good pickup.
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From MSU. Any good?
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From MSU. Any good?
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Yeah, he was one of two WRs I hoped to keep. He was the lesser of the two, but I still liked him. The better one, Jaron Glover, is apparently visiting Georgia today
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QB Kurtis Rourke from Ohio U. has committed to IU. Should be a solid pickup. He was really good two years ago but regressed a bit last year after an ACL injury in November of 2022.
WR Donaven McCully confirmed he will return to IU as will starting LT Carter Smith, who was really solid as a RS freshman this year. Apparently some big NIL money was thrown at both of these guys from some pretty big programs but they've chosen to stay at IU. That's a positive not only because they are talented and staying but it also indicates that IU's NIL is working.
I am mildly annoyed that UW didn’t make a run at that QB.
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I understand of course why nonstarters portal out, but it's a bit tougher to understand why very good starters leave a program lilke UGA. NIL can be a factor of course.
Georgia's Dumas-Johnson, Harris enter transfer portal - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39120975/georgia-dumas-johnson-harris-enter-transfer-portal)
This guy was injured late in the season and was considered quite a substantial loss to the defense.
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Kid's looking for a bag - no doubt.
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could be as simple as a girlfriend or family situation
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He's from Baltimore, so the move closer to home could be in the offing.
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Another one.
Rodas Johnson, Wisconsin, Defensive Line (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/rodas-johnson-46040546/)
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could be as simple as a girlfriend or family situation
Getting the bag usually helps this situation
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USC losing former 5* QB Malachi Nelson and former 5* CB Domani Jackson to the portal.
Both these guys were top 10 overall players in their class.
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Did Nelson land anywhere yet?
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I'm sure Day has a bag for Nelson.
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Not sure sounding like he's more Primadonna than Prime Time
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Miss State loses their CB to Ole Miss. Is nothing sacred?!?
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I'm sure Day has a bag for Nelson.
That would be a big departure from the norm for 2 reasons:
- Day has shown little interest in other QBs in the portal this year who are proven. Why risk driving out the young guys you have, who you have seen developing, for someone who is a crap shoot?
- generally Ohio State loses players to the bag. Not gains them. They have been pretty firm in their philosophy of favoring current, proven players over throwing bags at new guys. It’s been reported that several recent recruits have de committed for that reason, and even McCord had that as one of his issues.
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Miss State loses their CB to Ole Miss. Is nothing sacred?!?
this has been the norm for decades
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Apparently MSU is VERY interested in him
MSU it is.
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IU picked up three WR's yesterday:
Myles Price from Texas Tech
Miles Cross from Ohio U
Ke'Shawn Williams from Wake Forest
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I wonder how many kids this year will enter the portal and end up with nothing...
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a shit ton
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I wonder how many kids this year will enter the portal and end up with nothing...
50 percent is the running number on that.
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higher than I thought... I know it was a lot, but 50% is a heck of a gamble..
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These kids have people in their ears, and they start to believe. Then it's over.
The worst part? They gave up a free education.
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It may have been meant to be over,but some kids really have pressing financial concerns and hard to turn down a windfall offer
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It may have been meant to be over,but some kids really have pressing financial concerns and hard to turn down a windfall offer
Most of these kids don't get those.
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the greatest thing about NIL... it's only for the top 5% if that
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former 5* QB Dante Moore to Oregon....where he originally committed before flipping to UCLA last minute.
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former 5* QB Dante Moore to Oregon....where he originally committed before flipping to UCLA last minute.
This is why you don't burn bridges.
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This is why you don't burn bridges.
Yup. Coaches know.
And yet angry boosters tweeting at recruits has ruined more than a few days of hard work from the coaching staffs. 40 and 50 year old men living vicariously through teenagers is never a good thing.
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And another.
Darian Varner, Wisconsin, Defensive Line (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/darian-varner-46084522/)
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Thinking about these "transfer rankings", they have to account for years of eligibility correct?
Like 247 had Aidan Chiles as the #1 QB. He played in 4 games to preserve his redshirt. You can't tell me he's better right now than Dillon Gabriel or Will Howard. Which kind of makes these rankings even more pointless. If you are USC or Oregon, get the best QB on your roster, and let 2025 figure itself out then. For Michigan State, why add a Dillon Gabriel to maybe win 1 more game in 2024, at the expense of QB development, and maybe even cause a young guy to transfer out.
It really should just be best player right now
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Really good player at UW until this year. Reunites with Mertz. This will really help Florida.
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And this is where we are now. Any thoughts here, @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) ? True or false?
Minnesota football rumored to be paying $30,000 for QB to play in bowl game (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/minnesota-football-rumored-to-be-paying-30000-for-qb-to-play-in-bowl-game)
sorry been away a bit lately getting things ready for the holiday
nope not true
but a small amount something like 5 grand to help pay for his wedding that is upcoming
he has graduated and is ready to move on to married life but came back to help the squad more than anything else
heck our whole NIL is about 30,000 so I am sure that is not the case
several people including the QB and the coach said nowhere near that number, but did not say he did not get paid
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Thinking about these "transfer rankings", they have to account for years of eligibility correct?
Nothing says CFB took a wrong turn quite like that
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sorry been away a bit lately getting things ready for the holiday
nope not true
but a small amount something like 5 grand to help pay for his wedding that is upcoming
he has graduated and is ready to move on to married life but came back to help the squad more than anything else
heck our whole NIL is about 30,000 so I am sure that is not the case
several people including the QB and the coach said nowhere near that number, but did not say he did not get paid
Thanks for the clarification.
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Chubba Purdey in the portal @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) @Entropy (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1559) @MarqHusker (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=41) ???
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yup, Riaola coming in
Chubba going out
I'd have liked Chubba to stay and compete but I understand
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Hopefully for the 'Sker faithfull Riaola has made his mind up,found a home and gets settled.
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I assume all these top prospects are living in Air Bnbs to keep their HCs on their toes.
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Hopefully for the 'Sker faithfull Riaola has made his mind up,found a home and gets settled.
He's settled for the next 12 months
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UW really re-shaping the LB and DL rooms.
BREAKING: Wisconsin Lands Northern Iowa Transfer Linebacker Jahsiah Galvan (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/jahsiah-galvan-commits-to-wisconsin-badgers-football-transfer-portal-223768710/)
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And this is where we are now. Any thoughts here, @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) ? True or false?
Minnesota football rumored to be paying $30,000 for QB to play in bowl game (clutchpoints.com) (https://clutchpoints.com/minnesota-football-rumored-to-be-paying-30000-for-qb-to-play-in-bowl-game)
Even if that were true, also kind of Fine? I mean, I hope it was a better QB, but yes.
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RB Etienne to Georgia......of all places.
Screw him.
I'll laugh when he gets even fewer carries for the Dawgs.
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Chubba Purdey in the portal @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) @Entropy (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1559) @MarqHusker (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=41) ???
was hoping that he'd stay but I'm guessing he sees the writing on the wall. Problem for Chubba is he's not a P5 starting qB... so he'll need to go FCS or maybe MAC. And is that better than a backup at Nebraska? Not sure...
I hope UNL goes after Casey Thompson. Let him come back to Lincoln, be the sr leadership that will be needed in the QB room and groom him for coaching. Rumor suggests he wants to get into coaching.. so why not...
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yup, Chubba will need to find a P5 team really hurting for a decent starting QB - there's a spot for him out there - probably in the Big Ten West
Casey Thompson has already had the opportunity to hold a clipboard for Rhule's chosen one. Casey passed on that last season.
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With this, I think every player I really wanted back has withdrawn from the portal, except Sam Leavitt, who went to ASU, is back. Definitely lost some good recruits, but very impressed with the players they were able to retain
https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1740100505681244604?t=njos6XoSisZe6FPFA-4VRQ&s=19
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With this, I think every player I really wanted back has withdrawn from the portal, except Sam Leavitt, who went to ASU, is back. Definitely lost some good recruits, but very impressed with the players they were able to retain
https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1740100505681244604?t=njos6XoSisZe6FPFA-4VRQ&s=19
I'm impressed MSU had a jersey made for a refrigerator.
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Another incoming for UW:
BREAKING: North Carolina Transfer Sebastian Cheeks Commits to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/sebastian-cheeks-transfers-to-wisconsin-badgers-football-in-2024-from-north-carolina-tar-heels-transfer-portal-224066693/)
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Nice to have that depth at every position - good luck to them
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Cheeks will probably provide more than just depth for Wisconsin, based on this statement:
Cheeks said his decision came down to UW, Ohio State, Missouri, and Northwestern. USC was also pushing hard, but the Badgers got the only official visit from the former Top247 recruit.
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(https://i.imgur.com/2Buk34I.png)
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RB room getting a little crowded in Madison.
BREAKING: Oklahoma RB transfer Tawee Walker commits to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/badgers-football-recruiting-new-commit-walker-224163226/)
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Rhule has room for one more RB
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UW has this new guy, Chez Melusi, 3 true FR and 3 MAC RB's.
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8 scholarships???
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For now. Probably see some leave after spring ball.
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UW has this new guy, Chez Melusi, 3 true FR and 3 MAC RB's.
UW has 3 MAC running backs? Coulda fooled me.
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When Yacamelli, Acker and White transfer out, watch where they end up. Of course, they could move Yac back to FS, where he belongs.
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Arkansas QB KJ Jefferson transfers to UCF.
So next year, Florida gets to face its former best RB (Etiinne - UGA), pass-rusher (Umanmeilan - OM), and the QB that led a hapless Arkansas team to beat us.
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motivation
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And another one coming in.
BREAKING: Arkansas standout LB Jaheim Thomas commits to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/badgers-football-recruiting-jaheim-thomas-commitment-224599098/)
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Good tOSU misses Wisc. next year,along with Wash.,USC & UCLA,just the Ducks amongst the incoming. Not that they won't throttle us but missing maybe another pummeling.
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OSU potentially bringing in a Bama offensive lineman. The good news for the conference is that it's the one that cannot snap the ball.
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OSU potentially bringing in a Bama offensive lineman. The good news for the conference is that it's the one that cannot snap the ball.
Wisconsin had a guard playing center all season. I couldn't snap but did his best.
We saw his replacement on Monday. Much better.
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Another one out. Former 5 STARZ who couldn't crack the lineup.
Wisconsin Offensive Tackle Nolan Rucci Enters the Transfer Portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/nolan-rucci-wisconsin-badgers-football-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal-224616032/)
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Another one out.
(https://i.imgur.com/pfLmbKy.png)
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Miami, or USC?
(https://i.imgur.com/NUUonSZ.png)
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Miami, or USC?
[img width=322.993 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/NUUonSZ.png[/img]
If I were him, I would personally go USC.. good news would be he stays in the conference.
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Both have enough money to give him a bag.
Riley could win him a Heisman. Cristobal will screw him up.
Go West, young man.
This way I can see Wisconsin beat him again.
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Get out of the conference if yer going
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Tua Jr should be out of eligibility, no?
And kinda shocked OSU took the center from Bama that can’t snap the ball and was getting bull dozed by Mason Graham and Kris Jenkins all game long….
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Tua Jr should be out of eligibility, no?
And kinda shocked OSU took the center from Bama that can’t snap the ball and was getting bull dozed by Mason Graham and Kris Jenkins all game long….
Did you see OSU line in the Cotton Bowl? Lol.
Actually- it’s probably a good pick up. The guy was on the Remington award list for the best center at the start of the season. It’s funny how he did not have that snap issue when he was snapping the ball to Bryce YOUNG. plus he actually had some pretty good plays against Michigan
but you do make a good point. Ohio State regular center from this season, Carson Hinsman didn’t play in the Cotton Bowl, but he did have a pretty good game against Michigan when he did play
this kid from Alabama may end up being a guard
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this kid from Alabama may end up being a guard
That's the rumor and makes it a good move. I get that he didn't have issues with Young, but after watching him a couple games at the end of the season, I can't really see how it was the QB.. So many of the bad snaps were in the ground or not straight back and wasn't a timing thing.
That being said, he was a very talented blocker so moving him somewhere else on the line will be a good move.
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A&M has been very active the in transfer portal this season, both in and out. Don't know much about the players coming in, except one guy from Purdue is from Bryan (College Station and Bryan are twin cities) and he was the Big 10 sack leader.
Emmitt Smiths son transferring in from Stanford.
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Emmitt Smiths son transferring in from Stanford.
So both Barry Sanders' and Emmit Smith's sons went to Stanford?
Barry's younger son is walk on for MSU basketball this year
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A&M has been very active the in transfer portal this season, both in and out. Don't know much about the players coming in, except one guy from Purdue is from Bryan (College Station and Bryan are twin cities) and he was the Big 10 sack leader.
Emmitt Smiths son transferring in from Stanford.
Emmitt's daughter played soccer for the ags as well. I guess the Smith family bleeds maroon these days. :)
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Emmitt's daughter played soccer for the ags as well. I guess the Smith family bleeds maroon these days. :)
He should have at least worked them for a car before going to Florida then
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He should have at least worked them for a car before going to Florida then
Who says he didn't???? ;)
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Ohio State lands the Judkins kid from Ole Miss....seems like a big deal. That's a great pick up for them honestly.
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Ohio State lands the Judkins kid from Ole Miss....seems like a big deal. That's a great pick up for them honestly.
Couple of my OSU buddies are oddly not pumped about it because of the rumors floating about his locker room presence. From a talent perspective, it's a big win for OSU.
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that's one reason you move - locker room drama
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True, but it doesn't necessarily mean that a new locker room culture can't help a previously troubled player.
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True, but it doesn't necessarily mean that a new locker room culture can't help a previously troubled player.
Plus there is widely varying opinions on whether he is a problem to begin with.
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Some say Kiffin ran him off. I tend to doubt that.
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True, but it doesn't necessarily mean that a new locker room culture can't help a previously troubled player.
Ed Zachery, learn from your mistakes, mature, move on, and succeed
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Incoming:
BREAKING: USC Linebacker Transfer Tackett Curtis Has Committed to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/tacket-curtis-usc-trojans-commits-to-wisconsin-badgers-football-recruiting-224975054/)
BREAKING: Toledo DB transfer RJ Delancy commits to Wisconsin (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/badgers-football-recruiting-new-commit-story--224916706/)
BREAKING: Wisconsin Lands Albany Transfer Defensive Lineman Elijah Hills (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/elijah-hills-albany-transfers-to-wisconsin-badgers-football-recruiting-ncaa-transfer-portal-224952794/)
Outgoing is gonna be BUSY this Spring.
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Florida lineman Micah Mazzccua announces transfer to Nebraska
Mazzccua spent one year with the Gators this past season after transferring from Baylor. He started at right guard for the Gators in 11 out of 12 games this past season. He totaled 743 snaps for the Gators in the 2023 season.
@OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58),
Kid any good?
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BREAKING: Jahmal Banks has committed to Nebraska.
Banks caught 104 passes for 1,400+ yards in his four years with the Demon Deacons.
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Some say Kiffin ran him off. I tend to doubt that.
Yeah I doubt Lane is running off any star player that can help him win games.
No coaches do that. They make the examples out of the lesser players and give the stars a lot more leeway.
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BREAKING: Jahmal Banks has committed to Nebraska.
Banks caught 104 passes for 1,400+ yards in his four years with the Demon Deacons.
home boy must enjoy losing going from Wake Forrest to Nebraska.
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dude wants a shot at the corners from Colorado, Ohio St., USC, Wisconsin, & Iowa with Raiola slinging it.
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Florida lineman Micah Mazzccua announces transfer to Nebraska
Mazzccua spent one year with the Gators this past season after transferring from Baylor. He started at right guard for the Gators in 11 out of 12 games this past season. He totaled 743 snaps for the Gators in the 2023 season.
@OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58),
Kid any good?
Ehh....he's like a serviceable guy. Not a plus player. The biggest problem I saw with him is he's not good at reaching anyone not right in front of him. Good linemen look like they're a magnet to the nearest defender and attach. He wound up with no one to block a lot, which shouldn't happen.
He was the guy who was acting like a boxer on the last play vs Tennessee.
Probably more fiery than talented, but doesn't get a big push, either.
He started at Baylor, then Florida, now Nebraska. If he was that good, he wouldn't be hopping around that much.
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Thanks,
that's what I was afraid of
Oh well, he could make an improvement I suppose
in the Husker's last game vs Iowa they started a redshirt frosh at left guard with a true frosh behind him.
need some mature depth and competition
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The NCAA really sucks.
(https://i.imgur.com/wKSIkf7.png)
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The NCAA really sucks.
(https://i.imgur.com/wKSIkf7.png)
Why are they even a thing anymore?
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No idea. Everything is just random now.
The B1G and SEC are gonna break away at some point, once they kill the ACC and XII for good.
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The NCAA really sucks.
Apparently, he played in one game too many.
I wonder if he gets the waiver if he stays at Maryland?
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Why are they even a thing anymore?
I'm all for the Chip Kelly plan of breaking football away from the NCAA and "regionalizing" the sport into divisions with cross over games. Basically NFL-lite. It shouldn't bring down all the other sports with it. We are well past that point though. He had a strong sentiment on why his sport shouldn't dictate that UCLA softball and baseball have to fly across the country and play Rutgers (& vice versa) vs. a typical series with Arizona for example.
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Yeah I doubt Lane is running off any star player that can help him win games.
No coaches do that. They make the examples out of the lesser players and give the stars a lot more leeway.
Let me introduce you to Scott Frost..
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Bama is getting raided with the "30 day transfer window" as a result of Saban quitting. Only school in the portal and teams are taking advantage of it.
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Bama is getting raided with the "30 day transfer window" as a result of Saban quitting. Only school in the portal and teams are taking advantage of it.
Wouldn't Washington also qualify?
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Wouldn't Washington also qualify?
Yup
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good for both of them
ADs should start putting deterrents in the coach's contracts - instead of crazy buyouts
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Bama is getting raided with the "30 day transfer window" as a result of Saban quitting. Only school in the portal and teams are taking advantage of it.
Since Nick Saban’s retirement Alabama’s roster is suffering a mass exodus.
“It hasn't been a slew of no-name, backups that didn't make a splash for Alabama. It's big-time receivers, starting safeties, important offensive linemen - 13 total starters have either graduated, declared for the NFL, or entered the transfer portal. 10 second-string players have done the same.”
28 players have entered the transfer portal, a number before Saban’s announced departure. But it’s after Saban left that players entering the portal were of a higher value and key contributors going into next season. OL Proctor (to Iowa), WR Isaiah Bond (to Texas), CB Dezz Ricks (to A&M), CB Antonio Kite (to Auburn), and most recently, Freshman Caleb Downs, considered by many fans to be the best athlete on the roster and already among the best defensive backs in the nation.
https://twitter.com/TheAuburnDaily/status/1747717871369863458
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Since Nick Saban’s retirement Alabama’s roster is suffering a mass exodus.
“It hasn't been a slew of no-name, backups that didn't make a splash for Alabama. It's big-time receivers, starting safeties, important offensive linemen - 13 total starters have either graduated, declared for the NFL, or entered the transfer portal. 10 second-string players have done the same.”
28 players have entered the transfer portal, a number before Saban’s announced departure. But it’s after Saban left that players entering the portal were of a higher value and key contributors going into next season. OL Proctor (to Iowa), WR Isaiah Bond (to Texas), CB Dezz Ricks (to A&M), CB Antonio Kite (to Auburn), and most recently, Freshman Caleb Downs, considered by many fans to be the best athlete on the roster and already among the best defensive backs in the nation.
https://twitter.com/TheAuburnDaily/status/1747717871369863458
What I don't understand is... Why?
Is it a lack of belief that Deboer can compete for a NC at 'Bama? I wouldn't think so, because they're leaving for places like Iowa, A&M, and Auburn, who haven't exactly been playoff-caliber, and he just took a far worse roster to the final game.
Is it a situation where they think they're not going to be "the guy"? Obviously not, because a lot of the guys who are leaving were already "the guy". No reason to think entrenched starters will lose their jobs.
Is it NIL? I don't know, I could see A&M having a more compelling NIL than Bama, but Iowa? Maybe that was just to go home. Auburn? They had great NIL before NIL was legal, but are they really out-competing Bama?
I don't get why there would be a mass exodus at all, but more importantly, I'm not sure why'd there be a mass exodus to some of the places these guys are going.
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fear of the unknown
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fear of the unknown
More like $$$$$$$$.
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perhaps, but I'm not buying the OT goes from Bama to Iowa for more $$$
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Bama's NIL is not up to snuff. I read that Iowa's raised $100K in less than 24 hours for this kid.
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What I don't understand is... Why?
the simplest answer is usually the correct one.
These kids went to Bama to play for the GOAT coach and win nattys. They didn’t pick Bama bc it’s a great school or to live in some freaking podunk redneck hick shithole like Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
They went to Bama for the coach. He’s gone, so they gone.
DeBoer is a nobody to the majority of these kids. Bet many have never heard of him nor give two shits to listen to his pitch. He’s a virtual nobody peon piss ant in comparison to Saban.
DeBoer might be a great coach. Jury is still out. I doubt he’ll succeed at Bama, but we’ll see.
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perhaps, but I'm not buying the OT goes from Bama to Iowa for more $$$
He was originally from IA as I understand it, so IMHO it might be "Saban's gone and I'm a little homesick."
These kids went to Bama to play for the GOAT coach and win nattys. They didn’t pick Bama bc it’s a great school or to live in some freaking podunk redneck hick shithole like Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
They went to Bama for the coach. He’s gone, so they gone.
I get that. But although I've never been to Tuscaloosa, is it any more of a redneck town than Auburn? I've been there and the campus is pretty, but it's not exactly what I'd call movin' on up to a deeluxe apartment in the sky...
For me it just seems like unless you perceive somewhere else as BETTER, whether it be situation / playing time, coaching, NIL, etc, it's silly to leave almost just to leave.
I mean, you look at a kid like Bond. You're a bona fide STAR at WR. DeBoer was running a highly explosive offense supporting multiple elite pass catchers. Why are you leaving?
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I heard a lot of folks took the Saban discount.
Not there anymore. But for a lot of folks, now the new staff will have to rerecruit.
(Is kind of funny. This kind of thing should encourage giving a coach more leash. But it often doesn’t)
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I don't get why there would be a mass exodus at all, but more importantly, I'm not sure why'd there be a mass exodus to some of the places these guys are going.
fear of the unknown
More like $$$$$$$$.
Herd mentality, fear of the unknown and $$$$$$$
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Herd mentality, fear of the unknown and $$$$$$$
I do get the herd mentality thing... Once a bunch of players start leaving you might think that when rats are leaving a sinking ship, you don't want to be the last rat that sticks around hoping it remains seaworthy... Especially once the 5* rats are leaving lol...
Or to mix metaphors, when a stampede starts you don't question *why* the stampede started, you just join in lest you get trampled.
But as an outside observer, I don't understand why the stampede started...
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I mean, you look at a kid like Bond. You're a bona fide STAR at WR. DeBoer was running a highly explosive offense supporting multiple elite pass catchers. Why are you leaving?
Yeah, I can understand RBs and pretty much any defensive player being wary of playing for DeBoer, but seems like QBs and WRs would love him.
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coulda been something the new coach said when he addressed the team
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coulda been something the new coach said when he addressed the team
I'd have to ask Bama fans about the timeline. Did these guys enter the portal before or after DeBoer was announced?
If it was before, and it was purely due to Saban leaving, it seems premature when you don't even know who the new coach would be...
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If it was before, and it was purely due to Saban leaving, it seems premature when you don't even know who the new coach would be...
Sure, but they knew it wasn't gonna be Nick Saban. If Utee bought tickets to a music festival because Taylor Swift was headlining, and then she cancelled, he wouldn't be waiting around to see who is replacing her.
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Sure, but they knew it wasn't gonna be Nick Saban. If Utee bought tickets to a music festival because Taylor Swift was headlining, and then she cancelled, he wouldn't be waiting around to see who is replacing her.
Yeah, but you'd think if you're selling tickets the moment that she was announced to not be the headliner without knowing who was replacing her, you're going to be the ultimate "buy high, sell low" example.
Which is fine if you thought you were going to be able to trade up into tickets to a major headliner. But if you're giving up Taylor for some WAY lesser name, maybe you should just kinda hold those tickets and see who the replacement is?
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Yeah, but you'd think if you're selling tickets the moment that she was announced to not be the headliner without knowing who was replacing her, you're going to be the ultimate "buy high, sell low" example.
Which is fine if you thought you were going to be able to trade up into tickets to a major headliner. But if you're giving up Taylor for some WAY lesser name, maybe you should just kinda hold those tickets and see who the replacement is?
I mean sure, but Utee goes to bed dreaming about Taylor Swift and wakes up thinking about her. Talking "replacements" is besides the point. Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach in the history of the sport. He's getting replaced, but there is no replacement.
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I'd call it the Thurman Thomas fallacy.
Just because the guy who left was great doesn't mean he can't be replaced by someone ultimately better.
Or the Sam Howell fallacy. Or the Drew Bledsoe (NE) fallacy.
On and on and on.
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I'll point out that although I have seen Taylor Swift live and thought it was a fantastic concert, I didn't buy tickets to see her. I already had the Formula 1 tickets almost a year before she was announced as a musical act. If she had been announced, and then unannounced, I still would have kept my Formula 1 tickets, as I have every year since the inception of the United States Grand Prix at Circuit of the Americas.
Also, if you're betting that the greatest college football coach of all time is going to be replaced by the greatest college football coach of all time, then you're a fool and a sucker and you should definitely stay away from games of chance. I mean, sure, it could happen, but the likelihood is miniscule. It's a terrible bet.
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I'd call it the Thurman Thomas fallacy.
Just because the guy who left was great doesn't mean he can't be replaced by someone ultimately better.
Or the Sam Howell fallacy. Or the Drew Bledsoe (NE) fallacy.
On and on and on.
Sure. But odds are low.
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Kalen DeBoer has a pretty good track record.
of course, so did Scott Frost
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Kalen DeBoer has a pretty good track record.
Sure. Like I said, if I were a WR or QB already on the roster or having signed an NLI to play at Alabama, I'd probably be okay with the change.
But I could definitely see why defenders might be wary and looking to make a move.
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Ed Zachery
Kalen might be the next greatest coach as far as wins and losses, but players are looking for more than that.
They are lookin for a quick path to the first round of the NFL draft.
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I mean sure, but Utee goes to bed dreaming about Taylor Swift and wakes up thinking about her. Talking "replacements" is besides the point. Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach in the history of the sport. He's getting replaced, but there is no replacement.
Also, if you're betting that the greatest college football coach of all time is going to be replaced by the greatest college football coach of all time, then you're a fool and a sucker and you should definitely stay away from games of chance. I mean, sure, it could happen, but the likelihood is miniscule. It's a terrible bet.
Yeah. The GOAT is getting replaced. And there is no replacement.
But you know where the GOAT is also not coaching? Iowa. Or Auburn. Or A&M. Or Texas.
It's not like Saban left for Colorado and all his players are transferring to follow him. He's retiring. And they're leaving, but not going to schools with the GOAT coach because, as you say, there is no replacement.
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Kalen DeBoer has a pretty good track record.
of course, so did Scott Frost
pretty good track record. Saban had the best track record. Ever.
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I'd call it the Thurman Thomas fallacy.
Just because the guy who left was great doesn't mean he can't be replaced by someone ultimately better.
Or the Sam Howell fallacy. Or the Drew Bledsoe (NE) fallacy.
On and on and on.
None of those guys were the best at what they did EVER like Saban is at what he did. None of them were even in that discussion. All of them good to great, sure. All-time all-time greatest ever? Not one of them.
Odds of replacing ONE OF THE BEST EVER with someone even better are astronomically low. Could happen, sure. HIGHLY unlikely though.
Jordan left the Bulls like 25 years ago and they still haven't found anyone in the same universe nor come close to sniffing a championship. Brady left the Pats 5 years ago and they've been a dumpster fire at QB and Belichik just got fired.
Only real example of a truly all-time great being replaced by someone better that I can really think of is when Favre left the Packers and Rodgers came in and replaced him and was even better. That's basically it.
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Joe Montana - Steve Young
Bob Devaney - Dr. Tom Osborne
it's rare, but it happens
Sioux Falls: 67–3
Fresno State: 12–6
Washington: 25–3
Saban probably didn't start this well
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Yeah. The GOAT is getting replaced. And there is no replacement.
But you know where the GOAT is also not coaching? Iowa. Or Auburn. Or A&M. Or Texas.
It's not like Saban left for Colorado and all his players are transferring to follow him. He's retiring. And they're leaving, but not going to schools with the GOAT coach because, as you say, there is no replacement.
I don't think it's unreasonable for a player to be concerned about the uncertainty with a brand new coaching staff coming in, even if those coaches were successful elsewhere. The coaching landscape is littered with coaches that were good at one place, and then failed when they went somewhere "bigger." In fact, just looking at the blue bloods over the past 20 years or so, I'd say the outcome of failure is far more likely than a new coach coming in from a "lesser" job, and being particularly successful.
After losing their last "good one" for whatever reasons, Texas, Michigan, USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Tennessee, all turned over coach after coach after coach, trying to get back on the right side of success. And before Saban, Alabama turned over a few as well. Really only OU and Ohio State have had much success replacing a good coach with another good coach during that span.
So knowing that the odds are the replacement for Saban is, at best, not going to be wildly successful and, quite likely, is going to fail-- I can see why kids would want to leave for a more stable situation at Texas or wherever. But it definitely doesn't explain why you'd transfer to a school that is also in the midst of a complete coaching changeover like Texas A&M. NIL could be influencing that.
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The hits keep coming for Alabama’s roster. Five-star quarterback and early enrollee Julian Sayin (Carlsbad, CA) plans to enter the transfer portal, ESPN's Pete Thamel reported on Friday morning.
The No. 3 quarterback in the country committed to the Crimson Tide in more than a year before signing last December.
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Joe Montana - Steve Young
Bob Devaney - Dr. Tom Osborne
it's rare, but it happens
Sioux Falls: 67–3
Fresno State: 12–6
Washington: 25–3
Saban probably didn't start this well
Steve Young wasn't better than Joe Montana.
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#5 player in the nation, #1 QB in the nation, and #1 player in California in the class of 2024 (per 247Composite) 5* QB Julian Sayin in the portal. Sayin signed with Bama and is looking elsewhere now that GOAT Saban has retired.
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Steve Young wasn't better than Joe Montana.
Maybe he meant Joe Mantegna.
Although that dude put in a heck of a performance in the Godfather Part 3.
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Steve Young wasn't better than Joe Montana.
MMMMM tough call by the time he took over much of the roster was getting long in the tooth.But Joe Cool was great in close situations
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#5 player in the nation, #1 QB in the nation, and #1 player in California in the class of 2024 (per 247Composite) 5* QB Julian Sayin in the portal. Sayin signed with Bama and is looking elsewhere now that GOAT Saban has retired.
MSN has LSU/USC/UofM/tOSU as the favs
LSU: Brian Kelly was in the running for Sayin for a time during his recruiting process and now after losing Jayden Daniels, he's in the market for options at quarterback. The highly-acclaimed Garrett Nussmeier is expected to step in for Daniels, but LSU could be persuaded to introduce some competition into the starting job given Sayin's skill set and potential.
USC: A native of California, the quarterback would theoretically be a good fit for Lincoln Riley's offense, which is set to lose Caleb Williams to the NFL Draft. Miller Moss had a good debut in Williams' place in the bowl game, but his future as starter is still an open question.
Michigan: The departure of quarterback J.J. McCarthy to the NFL Draft leaves a big hole open for the Wolverines to fill at the position, and the return of tailback Donovan Edwards bodes well for the offense. But will Jim Harbaugh be back as head coach? He's [color=var(--accent-foreground-rest)]currently on the NFL circuit looking for a possible job (https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football-picks/jim-harbaugh-coaching-prediction-2024-odds-michigan-nfl)[/url] at the pro level.
Ohio State: The presence of Bill O'Brien on staff could tilt things strongly in the Buckeyes' favor after Ryan Day brought him on as offensive coordinator. That's an interesting development as O'Brien, then the OC at Bama, was one of the reasons Sayin originally pledged there in addition to Saban being head coach. Working in an O'Brien offense could lure the quarterback to Columbus, though he'd have to wait a year behind veteran transfer Will Howard[/font][/size][/color]
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sure as hell don't say this very often, but we don't need him in Lincoln.
We have our guy!
and his backup
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Of course Raiola is aware he'll get no real compitition heading out to the pasture. So he can pad his stats til the cows come home unless you or I show up for a try out
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Raiola's competition might not be Julian
but, it's another elite 11 kid
(https://i.imgur.com/2fl94sV.png)
https://www.elite11.com/2023-elite-11-finals-roster (https://www.elite11.com/2023-elite-11-finals-roster)
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#5 player in the nation, #1 QB in the nation, and #1 player in California in the class of 2024 (per 247Composite) 5* QB Julian Sayin in the portal. Sayin signed with Bama and is looking elsewhere now that GOAT Saban has retired.
I dunno something tells me from the snap shot this kid might be a bit of primadonna
[img width=447 height=251.375 alt=Julian Sayin]https://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/styles/489x275/public/c/2024/01/144973_h.jpeg?itok=LDmiplas[/img] (https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2024/01/144973/ohio-state-linked-to-julian-sayin-after-five-star-alabama-quarterback-enters-transfer-portal)[/size][/color][/iurl]
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Ohio State has been talked about for Sayin, but Ohio State just brought in portal QB Will Howard and 2024 5* QB Air Noland. If they get 5* Julian Sayin to come onboard as well, talk about quite the incoming QB class. A pair of 2024 5 STARZ and one of the handful of any good portal QBs.
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Not sorry for Bama fans.
It's not everyone else's fault you got accustomed to having a perpetual 'most talented' roster of all time.
Tough shit.
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Sure. But odds are low.
We don't know the odds.
People tend to think it's like 1%. It's probably closer to 20.
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Not sorry for Bama fans.
It's not everyone else's fault you got accustomed to having a perpetual 'most talented' roster of all time.
Tough shit.
Bama has ruled college football for like 15+ years. Think everyone is sick of those guys.
Shows you just how powerful Nick Saban was. Elite kids from all over the country came to play for him. He won way more battles than he lost in 'crootin. Not many coaches ever have had that kind of pull....
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You don't have to replace the GOAT with the next GOAT, just someone great.
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Not sorry for Bama fans.
It's not everyone else's fault you got accustomed to having a perpetual 'most talented' roster of all time.
Tough shit.
Ed Zachery
when Saban was out cheated by Ole Miss in 2019 things started to bother him
then Texas A&M, then Georgia
now NIL and the Portal
St. Nick wants to go out the Saint and things are slippin away
tougher the be the best coach when you don't have the best talent every season
time to retire
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You don't have to replace the GOAT with the next GOAT, just someone great.
At the bluebloods, including Alabama, history shows us you're far more likely to follow a "great" with a dud. There are a lot of reasons for that, but simply the pressure of following a great at a high profile school with absurdly high expectations has something to do with. Guys who are "great" elsewhere get crushed under all of that.
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At the bluebloods, including Alabama, history shows us you're far more likely to follow a "great" with a dud. There are a lot of reasons for that, but simply the pressure of following a great at a high profile school with absurdly high expectations has something to do with. Guys who are "great" elsewhere get crushed under all of that.
exactly this.
expectations at Bama have always been high bc of the standard Bear Bryant set, and now they are higher than ever before because of the standard Nick Saban has set.
DeBoer better win FAST or he'll be out FAST. And the SEC is only getting tougher with Oklahoma and Texas joining. Kirby ain't going anywhere and UGA will continue to be a beast. Brian Kelly has fielded some gnarly offenses at LSU and if they can just get a defense they'll be a problem. Joey Freshwater has Ole Miss playing some real life 'ball. Florida is always only a coach away from being "back". A&M finally dumped that loser Jimbo and have resources ($$$$$$$) up the ass to buy players and get good in a hurry. Murders row in the SEC. And the gumps in Bama have zero patience. DeBoer will need to win almost immediately and will be given zero time to build a program. Which might be hard for him to to do seeing as how he's bleeding players to the NFL draft and portal right now.
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You don't have to replace the GOAT with the next GOAT, just someone great.
Apparently what we just learned is that in the transfer portal era, you *DO* have to replace the GOAT with the next GOAT. Previously, all you had to do is be good enough not to throw it in a dumpster and light it on fire and you'd at least get 4-5 years.
Because in a rational world, the next coach would have inherited Saban's roster of studs. He'd have a 2-3 year talent advantage over all but 5-6 other programs in the CFB world and it would come down to whether he had enough success to recruit well enough to keep it going. Instead, DeBoer is going to have to do a full rebuild of a program that made it into the 4-team CFP in 8 of the last 10 years.
Now, I'm certainly not shedding any tears for the poor Tide. I've disliked the lack of parity in this sport since the moment I started following it--as a fan of a school that's merely a P# conference hanger-on. But it's worth pointing out what a seismic shift this has made compared to the pre-portal era.
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Mdot my fine michigan coorespondent I would pay to listen in on you,Fearless and 847 or HB call a game together.Hell I'd even make cameo,ya know to help you shirks out with some professionalism
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git yer skinny white ass to Nashville
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(https://i.imgur.com/R1cnwse.jpg)
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here's an idea....what if Cade McNamara hits the portal and goes back to Michigan? how crazy would that be...
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it's not that crazy, but yer gonna piss off the Hawkeyes
who don't have an OC yet
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They didn't have an OC before so,MEH.
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On Iowa: so the only penalty for nepotism is merely the embarrassment of it going awry?
Hmmph.
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Wouldn't Washington also qualify?
They do now.. but for a few days it was only bama
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On Iowa: so the only penalty for nepotism is merely the embarrassment of it going awry?
Hmmph.
seems to be penalty enough
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I think the questions should be asked... Did Saban sell kids on Alabama or Nick Saban...???
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I think the questions should be asked... Did Saban sell kids on Alabama or Nick Saban...???
For the past 15 years or so those have been one and the same. I don't think he made any distinction because I don't think any was necessary.
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For the past 15 years or so those have been one and the same. I don't think he made any distinction because I don't think any was necessary.
this.
it's pretty simple, kids went to go play for Saban- who happened to be at Bama. It's a lot easier to get kids to come to Bama than say Purdue due to things like demographics & geography, tradition, history, etc., etc., but bottom line - those kids were primarily coming to play for the GOAT.
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this.
it's pretty simple, kids went to go play for Saban- who happened to be at Bama. It's a lot easier to get kids to come to Bama than say Purdue due to things like demographics & geography, tradition, history, etc., etc., but bottom line - those kids were primarily coming to play for the GOAT.
Yeah, maybe the first 3-4 years they were coming for the shiny red helmet and the promise that things would be better than before... But once Saban established himself, it was the perfect confluence of GOAT+helmet.
But again, that's why I posed the question of why everyone's acting like rats deserting the sinking ship once the GOAT left. It's still a REALLY shiny red helmet.
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Per ESPN NFL Draft analyst Jordan Reid, the number of early departures from the college ranks has substantially decreased in recent years and that total continues to dwindle. In the 2024 NFL Draft cycle, only 54 underclassmen players made declarations — less than half of the total (106) from 2018. Among the most notable early-entries, most came at the quarterback position, including USC's Caleb Williams, UNC's Drake Maye and Michigan's J.J. McCarthy. Ohio State wideout Marvin Harrison Jr. is another, despite reports of enhanced NIL opportunities with the Buckeyes.
Outside of the obvious first-round selections, most of the players on the fence this cycle are returning to school including Georgia quarterback Carson Beck, Texas signal caller Quinn Ewers and more than a half-dozen Ohio State starters, among others.
As documented by Reid, the raw number of early NFL Draft declarations is telling:
2018: 106
2019: 103
2020: 99
2021: 98
2022: 73
2023: 69
2024: 54
Recent Miami transfer commit Cameron Ward, who previously announced earlier this month he was entering the draft, chose another year in college with the Hurricanes
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Being a senior in college rules. Being a senior in college with a seven figure bank account is a level of existence I can't comprehend.
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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/college-sports/2024/01/145050/16-cfb-players-made-more-in-2023-than-49ers-qb-brock-purdy
16 CFB players made more than Brock Purdy this season. Insanity.
At least the false narrative of amateurism is no longer a thought.
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Ya just unbelievable,scruples - they've lost them
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Yeah, maybe the first 3-4 years they were coming for the shiny red helmet and the promise that things would be better than before... But once Saban established himself, it was the perfect confluence of GOAT+helmet.
But again, that's why I posed the question of why everyone's acting like rats deserting the sinking ship once the GOAT left. It's still a REALLY shiny red helmet.
Yup, I really don't understand the exodus to the extent that it's happening. And especially not the ones that are leaving Alabama either for places that have similar uncertainty, or are already known to be worse teams/situations than I'd expect at Alabama even with a 2-3 loss per season dropoff.
I can only assume that NIL is playing a part in some of that. We all know that Alabama's NIL is well behind many other places. One of the main reasons Saban left when he did, he knows Alabama can't compete at that level in the new paradigm.
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Alabama can't compete at that level????
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They don't have enough rabid fans?
they have no donors of substance?
They don't care about winning?
WTF???
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I can only assume that NIL is playing a part in some of that. We all know that Alabama's NIL is well behind many other places. One of the main reasons Saban left when he did, he knows Alabama can't compete at that level in the new paradigm.
Yup the old bagmen system worked much better below the Mason-Dixon,sans Tejas of course
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Alabama can't compete at that level????
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They don't have enough rabid fans?
they have no donors of substance?
They don't care about winning?
WTF???
been watching A Christmas Carol again - IMO great movie
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Alabama can't compete at that level????
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They don't have enough rabid fans?
they have no donors of substance?
They don't care about winning?
WTF???
Compared to the top NIL schools, no, they don't. Not even really close. They're also not situated in a major population center where local businesses can help take up the slack.
For example, the University of Texas isn't handing out Lambos to players, the local Lamborghini dealership in Austin is, because they believe there is value in that advertising. Austin also has a Ferrari dealership, Aston Martin, Bentley, Rolls Royce, and every other major luxury brand.
Tuscaloosa has none of those.
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bama is not a rich state.... Bag men carried around thousands, not tens of thousands.
I also happen to think, and clearly in the minority, that the kids did not come to play for bama, but saban. When he left, there was zero loyalty... it became an NIL hunt.
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It does crack me up watching schools like Alabama (and really, SEC honks in general) clutch their pearls now that schools are on a more even footing when it comes to money.
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It does crack me up watching schools like Alabama (and really, SEC honks in general) clutch their pearls now that schools are on a more even footing when it comes to money.
Yeah, it must be hard being a poor resource-strapped Buckeye.
I weep for ya. :'(
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For example, the University of Texas isn't handing out Lambos to players, the local Lamborghini dealership in Austin is, because they believe there is value in that advertising. Austin also has a Ferrari dealership, Aston Martin, Bentley, Rolls Royce, and every other major luxury brand.
you just keep telling yourself this is about value in advertising
and not about big boosters buying players legally
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Ohio State NIL collective “THE Foundation” announced Monday that Stroud is the first former student-athlete partner to become a “major donor.”
I wonder what Stroud is advertising?
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bama is not a rich state.... Bag men carried around thousands, not tens of thousands.
I also happen to think, and clearly in the minority, that the kids did not come to play for bama, but saban. When he left, there was zero loyalty... it became an NIL hunt.
I'd call it an NFL hunt. That's where their allegiance to Saban starts and ends. He got all the kids to the NFL. Period. It was never about Alabama, history, or anything else.
Saban's gone? The 2nd-place "HC that will get me to the NFL" is coaching elsewhere, whoever that may be.
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you just keep telling yourself this is about value in advertising
and not about big boosters buying players legally
So for this to be true, the owner or managing partner at Lamborghini of Austin, would be a University of Texas alum, right? Or at the very least, on the list of large money donors to the University?
If you can prove that, I'll concede the point. If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit.
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Ohio State NIL collective “THE Foundation” announced Monday that Stroud is the first former student-athlete partner to become a “major donor.”
I wonder what Stroud is advertising?
You understand that the collectives are not the same as local businesses advertising, right? I mean, that's the exact point I was making.
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So for this to be true, the owner or managing partner at Lamborghini of Austin, would be a University of Texas alum, right? Or at the very least, on the list of large money donors to the University?
If you can prove that, I'll concede the point. If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit.
show me the Lamborghini of Austin ad using a Horn player or recruit
I'm not sayin it doesn't happen, just sayin the vast majority of the money going to players and recruits is NOT for advertising
I've seen a handful of commercials using Husker players - none of them seem to be worth a ton of money
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You understand that the collectives are not the same as local businesses advertising, right? I mean, that's the exact point I was making.
I understand that the vast majority of the money for all universities is coming thru the collectives
I don't feel Bama is falling woefully behind because of auto dealerships or local dentist and law offices
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Yeah, it must be hard being a poor resource-strapped Buckeye.
I weep for ya. :'(
The Buckeyes have a total of six guys coming in from the transfer portal, and now SEC blogs are comparing them to LIV golf.
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just think what A&M could be paying players if they weren't paying their coach to go away
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I understand that the vast majority of the money for all universities is coming thru the collectives
I don't feel Bama is falling woefully behind because of auto dealerships or local dentist and law offices
Bama isn't falling woefully behind. Yet. We'll see how they do without Nick on the 'crootin' trail. My guess? They're not going to be ANYWHERE near where they were with Nick.
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The Buckeyes have a total of six guys coming in from the transfer portal, and now SEC blogs are comparing them to LIV golf.
A&M's "all-time highest rated class ever" that was purchased with NIL money was more akin to LIV golf.
SEC fans are just sad because most of the schools and states are actually quite poor compared to your Ohio State's, Michigan's, and Notre Dame's. Outside of A&M, UGA, Florida....and well now Texas... most of those schools are in relatively poor states and don't have anywhere near the kind of fundraising/donor base that a lot of the B1G schools have. They are scared that if it becomes a race to the bottom and we're all just buying players, that they'll fall behind the pack.
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I'd call it an NFL hunt. That's where their allegiance to Saban starts and ends. He got all the kids to the NFL. Period. It was never about Alabama, history, or anything else.
Saban's gone? The 2nd-place "HC that will get me to the NFL" is coaching elsewhere, whoever that may be.
this. they went to Bama for Saban bc he could get them natty's and drafted high by the nfl. period.
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show me the Lamborghini of Austin ad using a Horn player or recruit
They show up at promotional events around the city. Lamborghini doesn't do TV commercials, dude.
I understand that the vast majority of the money for all universities is coming thru the collectives
OK you're arguing around in circles now. I'll leave you to it.
A&M's "all-time highest rated class ever" that was purchased with NIL money was more akin to LIV golf.
A&M's class was purchased with bags, not NIL. At the time, Jimbo stated that A&M had almost no NIL deals for football, and he wasn't lying. Their NIL compliance staff confirmed it. It wasn't quite the flex he thought it was, though.
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The Buckeyes have a total of six guys coming in from the transfer portal, and now SEC blogs are comparing them to LIV golf.
Yeah. My program is an event on the Australasian Tour in comparison to LIV. Your OSU issues? #firstworldproblems
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Yeah. My program is an event on the Australasian Tour in comparison to LIV. Your OSU issues? #firstworldproblems
I'm not saying OSU has issues. I'm saying the playing field is more level now, which is good for the Buckeyes (and other northern teams). Money wins over proximity.
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I'm not saying OSU has issues. I'm saying the playing field is more level now, which is good for the Buckeyes (and other northern teams). Money wins over proximity.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
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So for this to be true, the owner or managing partner at Lamborghini of Austin, would be a University of Texas alum, right? Or at the very least, on the list of large money donors to the University?
If you can prove that, I'll concede the point. If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit.
Now that right there is funny I don't care who the hell you are !!!
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Now that right there is funny I don't care who the hell you are !!!
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I'm not saying OSU has issues. I'm saying the playing field is more level now, which is good for the Buckeyes (and other northern teams). Money wins over proximity.
I wouldn't say it's more level now, it's just shifted to the wealthy schools serving larger markets that were previously reluctant or unwilling to get involved in the bag game, but are perfectly willing to take advantage of the new "above board" opportunities provided by NiL.
Some of the old-school bagman teams will be able to shift paradigms, some will not, and some new players will enter that weren't previously contenders in the pay-for-play scenarios.
The field isn't any more level than before, it's just tilting in a slightly new direction.
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That's the thing about tilts - you can get back to even just by tilting in a new direction, at least for a while.
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That's the thing about tilts - you can get back to even just by tilting in a new direction, at least for a while.
Can you, though?
(https://i.imgur.com/KCkjs0Y.png)
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I feel like the portal is creating NIL chaos vs. the inverse. If the NCAA put their focus into something (I know that's a stretch); changing the 24/7 365 free agency that currently exists through the portal would be the greatest opportunity for improvement.
I am curious on how the NIL spend through these collectives will affect other University fundraising efforts down the road. Will this impact fundraising for stadium upgrades, academic centers, etc? Or are the NIL donors a completely different subset?
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I feel like the portal is creating NIL chaos vs. the inverse. If the NCAA put their focus into something (I know that's a stretch); changing the 24/7 365 free agency that currently exists through the portal would be the greatest opportunity for improvement.
I agree this would be an improvement for the fans who preferred the status quo, but it's certainly NOT an improvement for the athletes themselves, who've always been held to a different and unfair standard that doesn't apply to coaches, or even to the other non-athlete students around them.
I am curious on how the NIL spend through these collectives will affect other University fundraising efforts down the road. Will this impact fundraising for stadium upgrades, academic centers, etc? Or are the NIL donors a completely different subset?
I can only speak for Texas, but right now at UT the latter statement is true. In fact, it's been extremely difficult to get the REALLY large donors engaged in NIL-- they prefer to have their names on buildings and gain access to the presidential suite at the football stadium.
Currently the NIL donors at Texas are from sort of a mid-tier of businessmen that are not the billionaires, and also just the common fan donating $25/month to the collectives. If Texas ever got the truly wealthy boosters involved in NIL, it would be an entirely different scene.
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I can only speak for Texas, but right now at UT the latter statement is true. In fact, it's been extremely difficult to get the REALLY large donors engaged in NIL-- they prefer to have their names on buildings and gain access to the presidential suite at the football stadium.
Currently the NIL donors at Texas are from sort of a mid-tier of businessmen that are not the billionaires, and also just the common fan donating $25/month to the collectives. If Texas ever got the truly wealthy boosters involved in NIL, it would be an entirely different scene.
You are speaking for Texas, but also Wisconsin. The average collective donor is about $65/month. There are a lot of them, actually.
Then there are the businesses, which is a different animal. They do stuff like this, and much more.
(https://i.imgur.com/QREYV9J.png)
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Currently the NIL donors at Texas are from sort of a mid-tier of businessmen that are not the billionaires, and also just the common fan donating $25/month to the collectives. If Texas ever got the truly wealthy boosters involved in NIL, it would be an entirely different scene.
Even if i had a lot more I'm not paying them to have fun.That coin goes for me to have fun
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A&M's class was purchased with bags, not NIL. At the time, Jimbo stated that A&M had almost no NIL deals for football, and he wasn't lying. Their NIL compliance staff confirmed it. It wasn't quite the flex he thought it was, though.
"If you can prove that, I'll concede the point. If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit."
You keep saying the same thing, but you've yet to show any proof. And you keep bringing up bagmen WRT different programs, but in reality NIL is just a business deal between two people and it's really none of yours or my business nor the NCAA.
I've read articles that stated that when that class was signed we had between $1-3 MM in NIL deals, far from the purported $30 MM that was tossed around the internet by some dude with the handle of sliced bread.
For clarity, I'm specifically stating your repeated references to A&M having bagmen paying players. Why would they even need to do that when NIL made it all legal?
The hypocrisy and hubris is excessive from you. UT players are given Lamborghinis, but A&M bought its guys with bagmen.
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just think what A&M could be paying players if they weren't paying their coach to go away
https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/article/texas-a-m-athletic-department-reports-record-operating-revenue-surplus-for-2023-fiscal-year-225981974/#:~:text=Those%20documents%2C%20which%20were%20sent,netted%20a%20surplus%20of%20%2484%2C495%2C486.
he Texas A&M athletics department had its highest operating revenue and surplus totals on record for the 2023 fiscal year, according to a financial report GigEm247 recently received through an open records request.
Those documents, which were sent to the NCAA earlier this month, show that A&M reported an operating revenue of $279,188,334 for the 2023 fiscal year. Their reported operating expenses were $194,692,848, meaning they netted a surplus of $84,495,486.
Since the NCAA started its current financial reporting system in 2005, A&M has never tallied higher operating revenue and surplus numbers than its 2023 fiscal year total. According to USA Today (https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/228723), A&M surpassed $200 million in operating revenue only three other times during that span: 2017, 2018 and 2019.
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better give the AD a raise
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"If you can prove that, I'll concede the point. If you can't, then we'll all know yer full of shit."
You keep saying the same thing, but you've yet to show any proof. And you keep bringing up bagmen WRT different programs, but in reality NIL is just a business deal between two people and it's really none of yours or my business nor the NCAA.
I've read articles that stated that when that class was signed we had between $1-3 MM in NIL deals, far from the purported $30 MM that was tossed around the internet by some dude with the handle of sliced bread.
For clarity, I'm specifically stating your repeated references to A&M having bagmen paying players. Why would they even need to do that when NIL made it all legal?
The hypocrisy and hubris is excessive from you. UT players are given Lamborghinis, but A&M bought its guys with bagmen.
Believe what you like.
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Believe what you like.
Just like I thought. Hurl accusations with no proof, just take my word for it.
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Just like I thought. Hurl accusations with no proof, just take my word for it.
Your coach himself said that class included no NIL deals. He got into a big twitter fight with Saban over it. Believe what you like.
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Thanx, I Believe I'll finish my stash of Oktoberfest this afternoon
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My Fests are long gone. I'm even running out of winter seasonals from my favorite breweries.
Guess it must be almost spring, then.
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Your coach himself said that class included no NIL deals. He got into a big twitter fight with Saban over it. Believe what you like.
I'm not certain that is exactly what he said. As I recall, the context of the statement was that it was thrown around that we spent $30 MM on recruits, which is completely ridiculous on any level, especially coming from some poster named Sliced Bread to be taken seriously.
Saban is the one who started that fight by saying that A&M bought our recruits yada yada. Don't think that Jimbo doesn't know how Saban operates, he was a OC under him before FSU, they were supposedly pretty tight at one time.
What it boils down to is that St. Nick didn't get his way, NIL changed the game for how recruits are won, and he whines about it and now 3 years in he hangs it up after publicly stating for years how much he didn't like it.
I don't care what Jimbo said either about how much we had in NIL, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that A&M had no NIL when everybody else did. That's just ridiculous. I clearly remember players having endorsements from about that time, because it was just kinda weird to see them pimping stuff in the open like that. Either Jimbo wasn't in touch with much of that, or as it is well known players can't even start their NIL until after they are on the team, so he could plausibly say that we had no NIL when he really meant that "it hasn't started yet". I assume some of the records are public by now, I thought NIL had to at least be reported by school if not by sport and I think it'd be safe to assume 90+% of NIL would go to football.
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Thanx, I Believe I'll finish my stash of Oktoberfest this afternoon
finished mine Monday evening
but, still hoping to find more
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https://www.si.com/college/tamu/news/texas-a-m-isaiah-spiller-demani-richardson-cashing-in-on-new-nil-rule-sec-football-news
We clearly had players getting NIL in 2021, which is the year that we had the #1 class. So despite what Jimbo said, it's foolish to think that we had "no NIL" for that class.
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I think it's hard to wrap your head around this fact. If a booster wanted it bad enough, he could put out $100 million to NIL and outspend the rest of CFB handily and just basically buy (or at least attempt to buy) himself a championship, which is kinda what the Yankees did for a number of years. They just outspent everybody and paid the tax and took home the hardware.
We all know it doesn't always work out, talent =/= championships by itself. So much more goes into it, which is where great coaches like Saban and Dabo have differentiated themselves. I put Bob Stoops in this category as well. Nobody will dispute that you have to have the talent, but you also need team chemistry, great coaching, a little luck usually, and at least 1-3 players that are just superstars in their own right like VY and Joe Burrow. I don't think anybody would think that LSU or UT would have won it all without those two guys on their team. Alabama has been able to do it mostly without an elite QB, but they were so deep everywhere else that it didn't matter.
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My Fests are long gone. I'm even running out of winter seasonals from my favorite breweries.
Guess it must be almost spring, then.
Up until a couple of weeks before Christmas the one grocer was still stocking it.Must be the price hike that has cooled some taste buds.Anyway time to break out the frothy grog's to combat the moody prick Old Man Winter.The Porters like Edmund Fitzgerald,Alberta Clipper & the Barrel Aged Black Out Stout From Great Lakes Brewing fit the bill nicely.They also have a unique offering that has piqued my interest - Bird Dawg Lichtenhainer Weisse. But it is a Pub Exclusive so I'll have to drive over there and fetch a couple of Growlers.
According to them - it's uniquely entwined flavors will turn it around 180 degrees. A more recently revived ancient style similar to the tart Berliner Weisse and ultra-smoky wheat Grätzer style, it’s sure to tantalize your most experimental taste buds.
Have to ask a buddy who works Downtown if he can take a detour.
Edit: Cancel that last paragraph the Grätzer style is a low ABV. That isn't going to prevent fuel line freeze up at least not like the last week though it is up to 44 deg right now
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Wait the coaches don't view boosters as friends?
https://twitter.com/cbatbie/status/1748862712703308234?s=20
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Up until a couple of weeks before Christmas the one grocer was still stocking it.Must be the price hike that has cooled some taste buds.Anyway time to break out the frothy grog's to combat the moody prick Old Man Winter.The Porters like Edmund Fitzgerald,Alberta Clipper & the Barrel Aged Black Out Stout From Great Lakes Brewing fit the bill nicely.They also have a unique offering that has piqued my interest - Bird Dawg Lichtenhainer Weisse. But it is a Pub Exclusive so I'll have to drive over there and fetch a couple of Growlers.
According to them - it's uniquely entwined flavors will turn it around 180 degrees. A more recently revived ancient style similar to the tart Berliner Weisse and ultra-smoky wheat Grätzer style, it’s sure to tantalize your most experimental taste buds.
Have to ask a buddy who works Downtown if he can take a detour.
Edit: Cancel that last paragraph the Grätzer style is a low ABV. That isn't going to prevent fuel line freeze up at least not like the last week though it is up to 44 deg right now
I enjoy sours in small doses. Even the Europeans who invented them don't drink much of them, typically not as session beers.