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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2022, 11:23:41 AM »
Any of us could enter an NIL contract.  Nobody is interested in me for obvious reasons.  College players once could not do this and remain "amateurs"  Now, they can, like any of us, and some companies will want to feature them so long as they are "famous".

There is a gaping hole here obviously.  At least it makes Bag Men irrelevant.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #99 on: December 10, 2022, 11:30:30 AM »
plenty are interested in you, Cincy

just not enough to lay down some hard coin

especially when they can get it for free
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2022, 11:33:35 AM »
The Area 51 fellows claim I'm boring, but they do seem to respond to my posts fairly often.  I've been labeled a "whateverist", which has some truth to it.


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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2022, 12:18:21 PM »
The Area 51 fellows claim I'm boring, but they do seem to respond to my posts fairly often.  I've been labeled a "whateverist", which has some truth to it.


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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #103 on: December 13, 2022, 03:35:17 AM »
2 more notable ones, each a sad situation, on opposite ends of the spectrum:

Former Florida QB and current ASU player Emory Jones enters portal....wasn't good enough to keep his job in Gainesville, was replaced 7 games into the season in Tempe....going to run off somewhere else now.  I just find it sad when these kids bounce around so much.  Stick with it someplace.  The only way I see this is a plus is if he goes someplace smaller (football-wise) and just plays for the love of the game.  If he transfers to some upper-half P5 program just to struggle again....what's the point?
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Coastal Carolina QB and face of the program Grayson McCall enters portal.  I hate this.  To just about all of us, there IS no Coastal Carolina without McCall, and now he's trying out the Jeffersons theme song (Movin' on Up).  Why not just remain a legend at CC? 
He'll likely go somewhere 'bigger' and do good/not great, but why?  To show off for the NFL?  This isn't 1985, exposure isn't a problem, even at CC. 
This one just kind of stinks for the program.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #104 on: December 13, 2022, 08:12:35 AM »
2 more notable ones, each a sad situation, on opposite ends of the spectrum:

Former Florida QB and current ASU player Emory Jones enters portal....wasn't good enough to keep his job in Gainesville, was replaced 7 games into the season in Tempe....going to run off somewhere else now.  I just find it sad when these kids bounce around so much.  Stick with it someplace.  The only way I see this is a plus is if he goes someplace smaller (football-wise) and just plays for the love of the game.  If he transfers to some upper-half P5 program just to struggle again....what's the point?
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Coastal Carolina QB and face of the program Grayson McCall enters portal.  I hate this.  To just about all of us, there IS no Coastal Carolina without McCall, and now he's trying out the Jeffersons theme song (Movin' on Up).  Why not just remain a legend at CC? 
He'll likely go somewhere 'bigger' and do good/not great, but why?  To show off for the NFL?  This isn't 1985, exposure isn't a problem, even at CC. 
This one just kind of stinks for the program.
Jones I could see as sad, but I also don’t know the backroom politics. His coach very well might not want him. And then, what are you gonna do? (you’re also right, he should’ve gone G5 off the bat and tried to put up numbers instead of insisting he was P5 good)

McCall is a more interesting one to me. I live a little bit closer to that school and have more interest in small school football, so obviously I am aware more of that program’s history and situation. In truth, if he stays, he sets himself up for a far more disappointing fall.

They couldn’t keep his coach, and then Instead of continuity, they made a bit of a croney hire. So his choices were: 1. Stay and try to raise up a Tim Beck offense (which likely won’t be a great fit)). 2. Find out if he is power five good (and, for better or worse, leverage the financial value he currently has before not making the NFL)

This way, he’s at worst still a legend who gave four years to a small program and lifted it up. At best he’s something more. I’ve been told again and again how a team like his is basically playing in a high school league, why wouldn’t a person want more?

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #105 on: December 13, 2022, 09:59:49 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2022, 12:57:33 PM »

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #107 on: December 13, 2022, 01:05:45 PM »
I do wish someone would do more do more nuanced studies about the composition of the population in the portal.

It overall is a catch all for a wide variety of experiences and kinds of players.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2022, 02:24:42 PM »

only 32 teams out of 130 have a player in the portal?
shoot, that's not so bad
over half of the Big Ten w/8 teams
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #109 on: December 13, 2022, 02:58:07 PM »
I do wish someone would do more do more nuanced studies about the composition of the population in the portal.

It overall is a catch all for a wide variety of experiences and kinds of players.
Not even sure how you would split that demographic.  Walk ons vs. scholarship players?  Upperclassmen vs. underclassmen?  Starters vs. backups?  Guys with NIL offers?

I think the telling thing is once the dust settles, how many land at P5 programs, or even FBS programs.  Granted that's a double edged sword too.  On one hand having a bunch of guys transferring down means you aren't losing contributors, but on the other hand, if it's the same coaching staff in place, that raises some red flags regarding evaluation

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2022, 03:10:00 PM »
My SENSE is most of these guys, say 70%, won't be getting PT.  They will "trade down" in hopes of playing.   Another 20% doesn't like the situation, but could catch on at another P5 program and half of those might start.  Maybe a tenth are good players who would start most places.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #111 on: December 13, 2022, 05:16:02 PM »
Not even sure how you would split that demographic.  Walk ons vs. scholarship players?  Upperclassmen vs. underclassmen?  Starters vs. backups?  Guys with NIL offers?

I think the telling thing is once the dust settles, how many land at P5 programs, or even FBS programs.  Granted that's a double edged sword too.  On one hand having a bunch of guys transferring down means you aren't losing contributors, but on the other hand, if it's the same coaching staff in place, that raises some red flags regarding evaluation
First I want to filter out walk-ons. Then kids who went JUCO/NAIA. I think they don’t take you out if you go pro, but that’s not so clear.

Then I want to start breaking down by conference, class, position, usage, recruiting rating. Maybe reported criminal history if we have it. I want to know, who we’re taking about. (I care less about NIL here. I’m interested in people actually stuck in there vs not)

And if some enterprising journalists want to start asking kids what happened, I’m sure the picture will be interesting and complex. Kids fell of rosters all the time in 2012. Almost every one of them would have a name in the portal. I lived near a college where a four-star left the team and said he’d transfer (pre-portal). He stayed at school and got his degree. I don’t assume he’d take his name out, as there’s no reason to do so. Shoot, you can punch your GF, get thrown off the team and put your name in there. It’s just a very large group.

I think of it like pro day. For some, it’s a high-leverage moment. For a lot, it’s a thing to do because it costs nothing and why not see if there’s a chance.

 

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